Being a Ranger is not just joining. Think Marine scale discipline. Understand you join as infantry, go through AIT, Jump School, and tests to be selected to Rangers. Then you are training x365 with some breaks. When you are in the ready battalion, you are on one day notice to go anywhere in the world. And don't think you can slack or you are back in leg country.
Well aware and you're a little off for how it works now. You do not have to go 11x (Infantry) Option 40. I am thinking 35x (Intel) or 13x (Forward Observer) with the option 40.
The option 40 guarantees you a slot at RASP which is the way into Regiment. This is the 8week smoke session, assessment and selection.
Now-a-days you go to OSUT (basic + AIT style job training) and then straight to RASP. You get Airborne after RASP unless you get Airborne (Option 4) in your contract along with Option 40.
And you're correct Regiment is a highly disciplined, motivated, environment. Rangers are getting the most action right now so I would likely see combat.
If you can't keep up with the PT and discipline in Regiment you get RFS (Released for standards).
Not to mention once you're in Regiment you'll probably have to go through Ranger School at some time. I have a Master's degree and would probably come in as an E4 and fuck over a lot of guys who've been waiting for a slot in Regiment for a long time.
I am not soul-set on Ranger, actually I am training for AFSOC right now. I just keep up with Ranger/SF/AFSOC and noticed this.
Your problem here is you are going enlisted after 30 to an infantry unit. I get it, the 75th is a SOF organization, but you will be a private in an infantry squad. At 30. If you have college, you can get your Spec 4, but its still YEARS until you are eligible for promotion to SGT. The fact of the matter is, Rangers are a young mans game.
I suggest looking into an 18X contract. ODA's are night and day from an infantry squad. Average medium age on an A team is about 30 vs 19/20 in an infantry squad.
Special Forces are the OG's in SOF man. Jedburg teams were assassinating, subverting and sabotaging France long before the Rangers scaled Point Du Hac.
Thanks man. I am a manager right now and I really don't like the computer + desk + paperwork. I understand even enlisted guys get some desk time, especially in the Air Force. But I like the idea of doing the job rather than managing the guys who do. My best friend is 18D and I asked him why not Officer. You get about 1-2 years doing work and then you become a manager.
Prolly not really stated anywhere but Ranger officers work for a living. I'm not sure about the SIGINT side but line officers are jumping with their troop!
I'll ask next time he is in STL.
I agree with kekkafir, 30+ as new infantry will prolly suck.
And you're correct Regiment is a highly disciplined, motivated, environment. Rangers are getting the most action right now so I would likely see combat
Remember, GEOTUS is not the war mongering President of yesteryear.
You may do an entire 4 or 6 year enlistment and not see combat.
Im sure the training is top notch, and if you enjoy that, go after that lifestyle and I wish you the best. I just don't want you to have the wrong expectations.
Yeah my best friend is 18D and he's spending his time traveling around Europe on deployment right now. I'm aware there's not much going on and I'm ok with that. Thanks!
Being a Ranger is not just joining. Think Marine scale discipline. Understand you join as infantry, go through AIT, Jump School, and tests to be selected to Rangers. Then you are training x365 with some breaks. When you are in the ready battalion, you are on one day notice to go anywhere in the world. And don't think you can slack or you are back in leg country.
Jus' sayin' and good luck!
Well aware and you're a little off for how it works now. You do not have to go 11x (Infantry) Option 40. I am thinking 35x (Intel) or 13x (Forward Observer) with the option 40.
The option 40 guarantees you a slot at RASP which is the way into Regiment. This is the 8week smoke session, assessment and selection.
Now-a-days you go to OSUT (basic + AIT style job training) and then straight to RASP. You get Airborne after RASP unless you get Airborne (Option 4) in your contract along with Option 40.
And you're correct Regiment is a highly disciplined, motivated, environment. Rangers are getting the most action right now so I would likely see combat.
If you can't keep up with the PT and discipline in Regiment you get RFS (Released for standards).
Not to mention once you're in Regiment you'll probably have to go through Ranger School at some time. I have a Master's degree and would probably come in as an E4 and fuck over a lot of guys who've been waiting for a slot in Regiment for a long time.
I am not soul-set on Ranger, actually I am training for AFSOC right now. I just keep up with Ranger/SF/AFSOC and noticed this.
Your problem here is you are going enlisted after 30 to an infantry unit. I get it, the 75th is a SOF organization, but you will be a private in an infantry squad. At 30. If you have college, you can get your Spec 4, but its still YEARS until you are eligible for promotion to SGT. The fact of the matter is, Rangers are a young mans game.
I suggest looking into an 18X contract. ODA's are night and day from an infantry squad. Average medium age on an A team is about 30 vs 19/20 in an infantry squad.
Special Forces are the OG's in SOF man. Jedburg teams were assassinating, subverting and sabotaging France long before the Rangers scaled Point Du Hac.
Your OP sounded like info from a Recruiter! Looks like you did your research.
One question... Why are you going enlisted? OCS being offered?
Thanks man. I am a manager right now and I really don't like the computer + desk + paperwork. I understand even enlisted guys get some desk time, especially in the Air Force. But I like the idea of doing the job rather than managing the guys who do. My best friend is 18D and I asked him why not Officer. You get about 1-2 years doing work and then you become a manager.
Prolly not really stated anywhere but Ranger officers work for a living. I'm not sure about the SIGINT side but line officers are jumping with their troop!
I'll ask next time he is in STL.
I agree with kekkafir, 30+ as new infantry will prolly suck.
Remember, GEOTUS is not the war mongering President of yesteryear.
You may do an entire 4 or 6 year enlistment and not see combat.
Im sure the training is top notch, and if you enjoy that, go after that lifestyle and I wish you the best. I just don't want you to have the wrong expectations.
Yeah my best friend is 18D and he's spending his time traveling around Europe on deployment right now. I'm aware there's not much going on and I'm ok with that. Thanks!