Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
I was reading a self-help book about time management that just happened to be Christian themed, The Ruthless Elimination of Hustle. Anyways the author keep going off on TDS fueled rants and praising minimalism. I got the vibe that the writer, who was a preacher, was a bug man. The biggest clue was his Church was in Portland. I think he even started to talk about socialism and eating the rich despite being a mega church pastor.
Female asst. Pastor is a dead give away that while Evangelical (Lausanne Covenant as their faith statement) on paper, this church is liberal in reality. That should have been the first warning sign.
”17Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth:
18Lest the LORD see it, and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him.”
But Jesus fulfilled it and brought us a new one.
Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:(old testament law).
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.
41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Real followers of Christ who do and teach as he says are generally hated by every side. You are either on Jesus' side or against him, and almost all are against him, whether "conservative" or "liberal".
He will indeed avenge them speedily. I had a cousin, tormented by a stepfather with connections to organized crime. The man was scum, a controlling sadist that my aunt was too downtrodden by to leave, and she was blinded to the way this bastard was destroying her relationships to everyone in her family. Her son was driven nearly to suicide. One night, after a particularly bad episode, my cousin was committed for observation for 24 hours, and I heard about this from my grandmother. I excused myself from the meal for a moment, and made an entreaty to the Lord my God. I prayed for haste. Whatever my aunt's husbands end would be, either salvation or damnation, I prayed that it happen immediately. I didn't care which, but I NEEDED it fast.
The following morning, on my way to work, I passed my Grandmother at the kitchen table. "Tony died last night," she said to me. I laughed, out loud. I couldn't believe it. Not an hour after my prayer, he simultaneously suffered a heart attack and a grand mal seizure, and the combination sent him into a fall from which he also suffered a blunt head trauma on the coffee table, he was dead when the paramedics arrived.
This is just a story from a guy on the internet, but that was the moment that I knew, I KNEW that God was paying attention, and that He hated injustice and cruelty just as much as is possible, and only restrains Himself from righting it all because He doesn't want to violate the lives of the free minded people He's created. But he does not ignore their Pleas, and waits for them.
I suppose we're supposed to forget all about Luke 22:36-38?
And He said to them, “But now, whoever has a money belt is to take it along, likewise also a bag, and whoever has no sword is to sell his coat and buy one. 37 For I tell you that this which is written must be fulfilled in Me, ‘And He was numbered with transgressors’; for that which refers to Me has its fulfillment.” 38 They said, “Lord, look, here are two swords.” And He said to them, “It is enough.”
Are you sure you're not one of those who number the Lord with transgressors?
I'm not sure what you are getting at with the transgressors part. That was simply fulfillment of old testament prophecy of Jesus.
This scripture is often very misunderstood. It is not telling his followers today to take up swords and defend themselves. He says right in that verse that the purpose of them buying those swords is so that Jesus would be accused of a crime and taken into custody, fulfilling prophecy. Immediately following this scene, we see peter draw his sword and Jesus tells him to put it away, saying "For all who live by the sword will die by the sword."
Love your enemies, turn the other cheek, do harm to no man, do not return evil with evil.
A sparrow does not die without gods consent, and he cares for you much more than a sparrow. No harm will come to you but that which god will allow. But we ought to rejoice when harm comes to is, because we are buying treasure in heaven. Blessed are those who are persecuted for Jesus' names sake.
I used the term thought leader to denote those that speak at conferences, write books, teach seminars, write blogs and share their opinions on podcasts. A few examples of these from Evangelicalism would be Tim Keller, Russel Moore, and Al Mohler.
A local church pastor, while vital to the church, usually doesn't have much influence beyond those in his own congregation and under his charge as a shepherd. 'Thought leaders,' on the contrary, have a much larger influence on the church at large, as their opinions, teaching, and perspectives tend are adopted by leaders within the local church.
It is an unspoken reality that Soros and other leftists have been pouring money into guys like Ed Stetzer and Russel Moore so that they will push Evangelicals, the most consistent America First voting base, towards the left. Evangelicals have been a consistent thorn in the side of Leftists and they would love to divide and conquer the Evangelical vote.
These efforts have largely taken two prongs--encouraging Social Justice/Critical Race Theory among younger Evangelicals, and encouraging NeverTrumpism among older Christians--both of these perspectives have been astroturfed to infinity over the past four years.
”17Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth:
18Lest the LORD see it, and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him.”
Though now that Jesus has come and shown us his tremendous love, God wants us now to not even desire punishment for our enemies, but instead to actively ask for their forgiveness and blessing. He wants you to be like Jesus and carry your cross with love and humility, as others rail their insults and physically hurt you.
If you can receive this new covenant, then take it with joy. But many are called, and few are chosen.
23 Therefore is the kingdom of heaven likened unto a certain king, which would take account of his servants.
24 And when he had begun to reckon, one was brought unto him, which owed him ten thousand talents.
25 But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made.
26 The servant therefore fell down, and worshipped him, saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
27 Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.
28 But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.
29 And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
30 And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.
31 So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.
32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:
33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?
34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.
The servant was legally owed money, and fully justified in demanding it.
There is a difference between the Justice of law, and the mercies taught by Jesus. If you continually demand justice of god, be careful because you just might get it.
Followers of christ do not seek Justice for themselves. God is Just and he will deal with that side of things. You oh great sinner, are to seek forgiveness for yourself and others, as justice is not something you should desire. Pray for your enemies, and bless those who persecute you.
When the days of grace are ended, then will be the time of justice, and god will pour out his wrath.
I judge no man, but I repeat Jesus' words to all; believers and unbelievers alike. If you forgive not, you will not be forgiven. Judge not, (condemn others) or you yourself will also be judged. These words offend many, and there are few that can accept them.
To judge that a man is a child of hell, and then send them there with our own hands is not the place of any follower of christ, ever.
Many will falsely come in the name of Jesus, saying that Jesus is Christ (Or "I am a Christian"), and will deceive many. Matt 24 And many are already in the world today.
At the day of Judgement many "christians" will come to Jesus and say, "Lord Lord, have we not preached and prophesied in your name, have we not done many works in your name?" And he will say to them, depart from me, I never knew you.
I judge no man, but I will cast down every false argument I see. (When I see it is worthwhile and not casting pearls before swine; there would be no end otherwise.) And I will never cease to proclaim the words of Jesus, and use them to correct both mistaken brothers in christ, and also the false teachers who are inside ravening wolves.
It does not matter who I am or what I believe, what matters are the words that Jesus has said. He has already decided the argument and made his view on the matter known.
Hello? Where does God say that in the Old Testament or via His proxy in the New Testament?
Jesus says Moses gave us 'the Law'--(i.e eye for an eye and NO false witness) and God gives us 'the truth'..which imo means you must forgive and bless your enemy, a flawed mortal human, AFTER you've dispensed the punishments for breaking 'the laws' (Moses' laws).
In regards 'turn the other cheek'--well you only have TWO cheeks. This means that you give everyone a SECOND CHANCE--NOT chance after chance; which would mean there are no consequences for 'wrongs'.
SHARE what you can for people in need who ask; don't give a DAMN about Caesar's courts if they are corrupt or used to rob you...(even moreso if your life's role is to preach the Gospel)...and yes tell those brothers, your brothers who are approaching you, to kill you, that you love them...BUT any step closer and YOU'LL KILL THEM.
In regards 'turn the other cheek'--well you only have TWO cheeks. This means that you give everyone a SECOND CHANCE--NOT chance after chance; which would mean there are no consequences for 'wrongs'.
This is a misinterpretation. We know Jesus wants us to forgive others often, matthew 18:21
Peter asked Jesus, “How many times should I forgive someone, as many as seven times?” Jesus replied with, “No, you should forgive seventy times seven.”
The specific number of 490 isn't as relevant, it's the concept of you should constantly forgive.
Forgiveness is power because it is the greatest expression of love, and it is a virtue that death, evil and Satan are not capable of. Every time we forgive, we are obtaining dominion over death through love.
As for the debate raging now, as we see elsewhere in the bible, you can forgive others while also adhering to the earthly justice system.
My personal opinion (idk if it's founded in any church) is that Jesus was sent down specifically to promote love and forgiveness. I think the OT, while trying to please God, became too much about judgement and punishment. Judging and condemning the heart while on earth is a trap set by Satan, to inject hate into our hearts. (Again, different than adhering to an earthly justice system, this would be judging someone's eternal soul). But because we were being tricked by Satan into hate (despite good intentions), Jesus came down to establish a new covenant - love your neighbor as yourself - to remind us that love is the only way to defeat death.
And remember, if Jesus can forgive the people who are literally crucifying him, there's no one we can't forgive.
Except those sent to Hell aren't forgiven--or loved. They're tortured. Jesus' death on the cross didn't save them, did it?
Why does God need to be so jealous of us weaklings that He created; so critical of our hearts--and then be so cruel (to some)? None of us asked to be born.
Those who are sent to hell have completely separated their souls from God. It is not God who does this, it is them through their earthly actions.
God is willing to forgive anyone who repents (see Saul/Paul). Those sent to hell have separate themselves from God through sin. They embraced Satan and turned away from god.
Now that we have that established, let me ask you this. Do you think celebrating anyone's death (out of vengeance) brings you closer to God, or Satan?
If God sends someone to Hell, shouldn't we rejoice He is God and it's His Judgement to send them
This creates a false dichotomy. Either we have to be sad or rejoice when God judges a soul. I don't think humans should concern themselves with God's judgement of others period. That is between them and God I think Jesus made this clear.
I'm not saying my judgement is better than God's, to the contrary I am saying we do not know God's judgement.
We also cannot know what God actually judges, because we are of earth. To presume to know God's judgement is a flaw.
I'm butting in to address that last question because I find this line of conversation interesting, I hope you guys don't mind. When it's the death of the wicked and it saves the lives of innocents, I don't think celebrating it brings one closer to Satan.
As to whether it brings us closer to God, I think whether or not we're "celebrating" by thanking Him for removing an instrument of evil from the world is what makes the difference. I could be wrong but couldn't resist throwing that out there!
SPEZ to add a reminder to myself to lean not to my own understanding. This will make for a good dig into the Word. Unfortunately I'm on my way out the door but hope to come back to this topic. Thanks all for the inspiration.
I think there's a bit of a false dichotomy going on here. The idea is that we don't have to "celebrate" per se. You can be glad that the supreme court is moving more conservative without necessarily celebrating the end of a life.
I think the biggest takeaway is just that we can't let hate consume us, even if you believe it is justified. Because the act of hate, no matter the reasoning behind it, is what separates us from God
Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:(old testament law).
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.
41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
43 Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Peter asked Jesus how many times he should forgive someone. 7 times? Jesus said, seventy times seven.
"Those who wish to save their lives will lose it, but those who throw their lives away for my sake shall find it." Most people choose not to obey Jesus, and instead reason with the wisdom of the world, forgetting gods power.
Yeah, I'm not rejoicing over her death, at all. I don't rejoice in the death of any, I don't want anyone to go to Hell.
If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
Here’s the biggest thing people tend to forget when it comes to the Old Testament is that it is the whole sum of the Israel nation, it’s religion, laws, history, culture, music and poems. People arguing against the Bible generally don’t look that far and grab some law that the Israelites probably made themselves or misinterpret some song or poem. Or even just take a section out of context to the rest of the story or chapter. It’s the main reason the New Testament is looked at more because it’s the recorded history of Jesus and his teachings and how the church should act.
That's because the Old Testament was rendered null and void as a book of law when Christ died. You can't go pick and choose pieces of the old testament to post on the internet while ignoring the other 80% of law that doesn't jive with your modern lifestyle.
Jesus got crucified by AND forgave a bunch of jewish & pagan criminals who undermine God's law.
Jesus set the example for us. He told us we will be persecuted. You cannot choose to believe in Jesus and just ignore his greatest example because it's hard to accept.
Hate chips away at your eternal soul. Is it really worth losing a part of your eternal soul over an earthly society?
You can love but still condem evil. People are complex characters, not simply binary "good" and "evil".
However, we are not the eternal judge, so rather than wasting our time harboring hatred, we can speak out against evil, pray for conversion of souls, etc.
Love doesn't mean passively sitting by necessarily, but the problem is we need to avoid submitting to hate. Casting judgement is the greatest temptation the devil has for the righteous. When you cast judgement for evil, you a tricked into thinking that hatred is justifiable. When it's not.
Forgiveness is power over hatred and sin, it's the greatest act of love. And yes sometimes it may make you a "push over" but when your God literally got crucified instead of "fighting back", you have an example set of just how much you are supposed to forgive.
Jesus literally tells us all the time that we are going to be persecuted. And he was crucified, so there can be no justification for submitting to hate.
"Hate is drinking poison and hoping the other person gets sick"
By tolerating evil it means that one truly hates that person.
We are to hate the Spirits not the human, but that does not mean that the human is absolved from consequences and must follow through on them.
Its like this:
Eat a lot a lot of the time you get fat, and when you get fat then you get diabetes, high blood pressure, and lots of other problems. You will have to work much harder and be more strict with yourself than others because of the first mistake. The second is not being strict and working hard to lose it, and that will lead to your eventual maiming and death.
Lusting even in the small amounts eventually gets to the point of leading to death in multiple areas besides physical.
This is the same with any action that we are not active in controlling and rebuking.
That is the first part.
The term spirits and dominion over the earth that my pastor said a while back started to make sense to me a couple weeks ago. Hate the spirit, but love the person for they are lost yet still can be saved. That is where personal choice comes in.
Personal choice is the second part, and the spirits of good or evil have no dominion on the earth unless agreed upon by the human.
Not just that but if you are not a Christian, you are banned from using Christianity as an argument. "Oh Jesus would let raping refugees into America. Even though I spend every other day of my life saying Jesus didn't exist and have a mental breakdown whenever someone says oh thank God."
Darn right. There is NOTHING wrong with celebrating the death of evil. RBG was EVIL. She supported and aided in the death of innocent babies. I'm glad she's dead and I sincerely hope she is burning in hell.
Agreed. There is always time for true repentance before the end, and we know the Lord will always give it as He knows if the repentance is True or not.
That said, I seriously doubt there was any. I would be surprised.
Thanks for the information. It's hard to keep up with the memes sometimes. So we like centipedes, bears, and now crabs. When did the crabs become a thing?
Everyone is just happy she's off the court. If she had retired years ago and just died no one would give a shit. It's not my fault she wanted to die a political death at work.
The time for Christians to turn the other cheek is over.
The Leftists declared war on America, on our Christianity... it is time we stop seeing them as countrymen.
They hate everything we STAND for. It is why these traitors demand that we KNEEL.
Like Leonidas said to Xerxes from ancient history, that bears repeating in 2020, relating to the oath that millions of us have taken... we kneel before no enemies, be them foreign or domestic.
The problem is people interpret "turn the other cheek" as be passive. What it really means is just to forgive your trespassers. But I warn you do not submit to hate.
Jesus forgave up to his dying breath. Christians do not forsake the fundamental principle of love and forgiveness because it's hard.
We were told we'd be persecuted, our brothers and sisters have been getting killed for years for our faith. It's time us American Christians grow a friggin spine and start standing up for the Lord.
It does not mean to forsake his greatest commandment when it's tough. It means to show the world Loud and proud who God is and what his love and accomplish.
When christians start to hate, who is acting out of love?
More; if you let someone describe the basic aspects of Christian theology who isn't severely cuckholded, its far more metal than any metal band. In terms of politics, one of the books of the Bible (Nehemiah) is about a hero of old who built a wall despite extreme political opposition. In the new testament Jesus advises his followers to buy sidearms whenever they don't own one (Luke 22:36).
The Bible is 100% based excepting subjective preference.
I love the crabs I am a crab buyer in the DC /Baltimore area year round. I run crabs from the south from Florida-gulf on up through GA/SC to the city. I am so amazed by the number of Trump stickers and flags I see on cars.Usually the Biden stickers hog the left lane backing up traffic on the interstate.
This is a funny meme, but on the serious side, I hate to label her as evil. I'll accept weak minded. Her intention may have been good, but her ideology was flawed. Maybe she bought into lefty propaganda because she was born susceptible to influence, which doesn't make her evil, just naïve. Maybe she was a bad person. We may never know, but only one person can reserve judgement.
Agreed. Tired of cucks celebrating people who've promoted the murder of tens of millions of babies, infringed on the rights of hundreds of millions of Americans, and helped promote globalism around the world, etc, etc. She was so committed to baby murder that she refused to retire from the court and give up the last years of her life in hopes that she could hold on until a democrat president could appoint another baby murdering supporter judge. She died of old age. She had her entire life to give up her evil ways and never did. She was a deeply terrible and evil person who we should all be happy is gone.
I have read that proverb and wondered about it. I couldn’t picture anyone rejoicing about anyone evil passing on. Reference Proverbs 24:17
The Proverbs that really encourages me about the evil in Washington is how they don’t get away with it!! Proverbs 24:16-22. Good stuff fren.
Make Christian Thought Leaders Great Again! No more feminine cucked pastors!
I feel certain that if Jesus saw a cucked man preaching while invoking his name, he would kick him in the dick right then and there.
Remember, when people ask, “What would Jesus do?” Flipping tables and beating people with a whip is within the realm of possibility.
"How did the Crusaders justify their actions?"
Well they were defensive mostly, but also fucking this.
He sat down and made the whip first. That part often gets overlooked. He saw things going on that were evil, and planned out what He was about to do.
I love that story -- went out and made his own whip.
Then kicked their behinds.
They're still mad about it.
How about the resurrected Christ.
The Warrior King to come who will lead his armies to conquer the world.
Jesus was angry and sinned not. So sometimes a beating is in order. Sometimes more
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.
He sees it. If god exists, he sees all of these aberrations amd abominable people.
I hope he does exist, and I hope I get to see what he does to them.
He ABSOLUTELY exists in the heart of every man, woman and child that believes in him!
John 3:16 For God so loved the World, that he gave his only begotten son, that whoever believes in Him, shall not parish but have everlasting life.
Amen
Amen
Shut up Goy. Your anti-semitism is showing!
Take your meds schizo.
"My fellow whites…"
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If I remember correctly, God destroyed cities full of degenerates too.
Comment to your edit: Pedophiles and Netflix cuties watchers.
I'm sorry Jesus but this comment made my laugh out loud lololololol
I was reading a self-help book about time management that just happened to be Christian themed, The Ruthless Elimination of Hustle. Anyways the author keep going off on TDS fueled rants and praising minimalism. I got the vibe that the writer, who was a preacher, was a bug man. The biggest clue was his Church was in Portland. I think he even started to talk about socialism and eating the rich despite being a mega church pastor.
He’s a certified cuck. Taking time off social media while he does a Race & Justice Series. I can’t stand these grifters
I knew something was off about him just from reading his book.
What’s his name? I lived there for eleven years and attended a large Christian church. The pastor was no socialist!!
John Mark Comer https://bridgetown.church/teaching/
Female asst. Pastor is a dead give away that while Evangelical (Lausanne Covenant as their faith statement) on paper, this church is liberal in reality. That should have been the first warning sign.
I just read the book because it was on sale. Picked it up without research. :(
OMG the uber-cucked worship leader faggot types - they're insufferable.
Old testament:
But Jesus fulfilled it and brought us a new one.
Real followers of Christ who do and teach as he says are generally hated by every side. You are either on Jesus' side or against him, and almost all are against him, whether "conservative" or "liberal".
He will indeed avenge them speedily. I had a cousin, tormented by a stepfather with connections to organized crime. The man was scum, a controlling sadist that my aunt was too downtrodden by to leave, and she was blinded to the way this bastard was destroying her relationships to everyone in her family. Her son was driven nearly to suicide. One night, after a particularly bad episode, my cousin was committed for observation for 24 hours, and I heard about this from my grandmother. I excused myself from the meal for a moment, and made an entreaty to the Lord my God. I prayed for haste. Whatever my aunt's husbands end would be, either salvation or damnation, I prayed that it happen immediately. I didn't care which, but I NEEDED it fast.
The following morning, on my way to work, I passed my Grandmother at the kitchen table. "Tony died last night," she said to me. I laughed, out loud. I couldn't believe it. Not an hour after my prayer, he simultaneously suffered a heart attack and a grand mal seizure, and the combination sent him into a fall from which he also suffered a blunt head trauma on the coffee table, he was dead when the paramedics arrived.
This is just a story from a guy on the internet, but that was the moment that I knew, I KNEW that God was paying attention, and that He hated injustice and cruelty just as much as is possible, and only restrains Himself from righting it all because He doesn't want to violate the lives of the free minded people He's created. But he does not ignore their Pleas, and waits for them.
Yes
I suppose we're supposed to forget all about Luke 22:36-38?
Are you sure you're not one of those who number the Lord with transgressors?
I'm not sure what you are getting at with the transgressors part. That was simply fulfillment of old testament prophecy of Jesus.
This scripture is often very misunderstood. It is not telling his followers today to take up swords and defend themselves. He says right in that verse that the purpose of them buying those swords is so that Jesus would be accused of a crime and taken into custody, fulfilling prophecy. Immediately following this scene, we see peter draw his sword and Jesus tells him to put it away, saying "For all who live by the sword will die by the sword."
Love your enemies, turn the other cheek, do harm to no man, do not return evil with evil.
A sparrow does not die without gods consent, and he cares for you much more than a sparrow. No harm will come to you but that which god will allow. But we ought to rejoice when harm comes to is, because we are buying treasure in heaven. Blessed are those who are persecuted for Jesus' names sake.
It's even worse when you're the pastor and the congregational 'leaders' demand you preach ultra-cuckery or else.
Had to leave my parish over TDS. It’s the wives. Tragic.
Appeasement fails!
What is a "thought leader?" I don't refer to any of my pastors that way.
I used the term thought leader to denote those that speak at conferences, write books, teach seminars, write blogs and share their opinions on podcasts. A few examples of these from Evangelicalism would be Tim Keller, Russel Moore, and Al Mohler.
A local church pastor, while vital to the church, usually doesn't have much influence beyond those in his own congregation and under his charge as a shepherd. 'Thought leaders,' on the contrary, have a much larger influence on the church at large, as their opinions, teaching, and perspectives tend are adopted by leaders within the local church.
It is an unspoken reality that Soros and other leftists have been pouring money into guys like Ed Stetzer and Russel Moore so that they will push Evangelicals, the most consistent America First voting base, towards the left. Evangelicals have been a consistent thorn in the side of Leftists and they would love to divide and conquer the Evangelical vote.
These efforts have largely taken two prongs--encouraging Social Justice/Critical Race Theory among younger Evangelicals, and encouraging NeverTrumpism among older Christians--both of these perspectives have been astroturfed to infinity over the past four years.
YOU BROOD OF VIPERS!
Yeah, Proverbs is full of great shit.
Legit great wisdom, even if you aren’t Christian. Don’t go into debt, beware of hoes, etc.
I’ve never understood praise of basic common sense.
This isn’t a comment about Proverbs, merely of people who can’t work out debt=bad without someone telling them.
That’s great, a person who can’t sort out her own life is going to help people sort their lives out.
How did we get here and where is the exit?
They are emotional decisions
Proverb for you
Though now that Jesus has come and shown us his tremendous love, God wants us now to not even desire punishment for our enemies, but instead to actively ask for their forgiveness and blessing. He wants you to be like Jesus and carry your cross with love and humility, as others rail their insults and physically hurt you.
If you can receive this new covenant, then take it with joy. But many are called, and few are chosen.
Remember the parable of the unforgiving servant.
The servant was legally owed money, and fully justified in demanding it.
There is a difference between the Justice of law, and the mercies taught by Jesus. If you continually demand justice of god, be careful because you just might get it.
Followers of christ do not seek Justice for themselves. God is Just and he will deal with that side of things. You oh great sinner, are to seek forgiveness for yourself and others, as justice is not something you should desire. Pray for your enemies, and bless those who persecute you.
When the days of grace are ended, then will be the time of justice, and god will pour out his wrath.
I judge no man, but I repeat Jesus' words to all; believers and unbelievers alike. If you forgive not, you will not be forgiven. Judge not, (condemn others) or you yourself will also be judged. These words offend many, and there are few that can accept them.
To judge that a man is a child of hell, and then send them there with our own hands is not the place of any follower of christ, ever.
Many will falsely come in the name of Jesus, saying that Jesus is Christ (Or "I am a Christian"), and will deceive many. Matt 24 And many are already in the world today.
At the day of Judgement many "christians" will come to Jesus and say, "Lord Lord, have we not preached and prophesied in your name, have we not done many works in your name?" And he will say to them, depart from me, I never knew you.
I judge no man, but I will cast down every false argument I see. (When I see it is worthwhile and not casting pearls before swine; there would be no end otherwise.) And I will never cease to proclaim the words of Jesus, and use them to correct both mistaken brothers in christ, and also the false teachers who are inside ravening wolves.
It is helpful in a discussion to try and stick to the top levels of this Grahams hierarchy of "argument"
It does not matter who I am or what I believe, what matters are the words that Jesus has said. He has already decided the argument and made his view on the matter known.
Hello? Where does God say that in the Old Testament or via His proxy in the New Testament?
Jesus says Moses gave us 'the Law'--(i.e eye for an eye and NO false witness) and God gives us 'the truth'..which imo means you must forgive and bless your enemy, a flawed mortal human, AFTER you've dispensed the punishments for breaking 'the laws' (Moses' laws).
In regards 'turn the other cheek'--well you only have TWO cheeks. This means that you give everyone a SECOND CHANCE--NOT chance after chance; which would mean there are no consequences for 'wrongs'.
SHARE what you can for people in need who ask; don't give a DAMN about Caesar's courts if they are corrupt or used to rob you...(even moreso if your life's role is to preach the Gospel)...and yes tell those brothers, your brothers who are approaching you, to kill you, that you love them...BUT any step closer and YOU'LL KILL THEM.
This is a misinterpretation. We know Jesus wants us to forgive others often, matthew 18:21
The specific number of 490 isn't as relevant, it's the concept of you should constantly forgive.
Forgiveness is power because it is the greatest expression of love, and it is a virtue that death, evil and Satan are not capable of. Every time we forgive, we are obtaining dominion over death through love.
As for the debate raging now, as we see elsewhere in the bible, you can forgive others while also adhering to the earthly justice system.
My personal opinion (idk if it's founded in any church) is that Jesus was sent down specifically to promote love and forgiveness. I think the OT, while trying to please God, became too much about judgement and punishment. Judging and condemning the heart while on earth is a trap set by Satan, to inject hate into our hearts. (Again, different than adhering to an earthly justice system, this would be judging someone's eternal soul). But because we were being tricked by Satan into hate (despite good intentions), Jesus came down to establish a new covenant - love your neighbor as yourself - to remind us that love is the only way to defeat death.
And remember, if Jesus can forgive the people who are literally crucifying him, there's no one we can't forgive.
Except those sent to Hell aren't forgiven--or loved. They're tortured. Jesus' death on the cross didn't save them, did it?
Why does God need to be so jealous of us weaklings that He created; so critical of our hearts--and then be so cruel (to some)? None of us asked to be born.
Those who are sent to hell have completely separated their souls from God. It is not God who does this, it is them through their earthly actions.
God is willing to forgive anyone who repents (see Saul/Paul). Those sent to hell have separate themselves from God through sin. They embraced Satan and turned away from god.
Now that we have that established, let me ask you this. Do you think celebrating anyone's death (out of vengeance) brings you closer to God, or Satan?
This creates a false dichotomy. Either we have to be sad or rejoice when God judges a soul. I don't think humans should concern themselves with God's judgement of others period. That is between them and God I think Jesus made this clear.
I'm not saying my judgement is better than God's, to the contrary I am saying we do not know God's judgement.
We also cannot know what God actually judges, because we are of earth. To presume to know God's judgement is a flaw.
Lol. Friend...fellow pede...I aint gonna be lured into that :)
Lets just leave it as it is.
I'm butting in to address that last question because I find this line of conversation interesting, I hope you guys don't mind. When it's the death of the wicked and it saves the lives of innocents, I don't think celebrating it brings one closer to Satan.
As to whether it brings us closer to God, I think whether or not we're "celebrating" by thanking Him for removing an instrument of evil from the world is what makes the difference. I could be wrong but couldn't resist throwing that out there!
SPEZ to add a reminder to myself to lean not to my own understanding. This will make for a good dig into the Word. Unfortunately I'm on my way out the door but hope to come back to this topic. Thanks all for the inspiration.
I think there's a bit of a false dichotomy going on here. The idea is that we don't have to "celebrate" per se. You can be glad that the supreme court is moving more conservative without necessarily celebrating the end of a life.
I think the biggest takeaway is just that we can't let hate consume us, even if you believe it is justified. Because the act of hate, no matter the reasoning behind it, is what separates us from God
Peter asked Jesus how many times he should forgive someone. 7 times? Jesus said, seventy times seven.
"Those who wish to save their lives will lose it, but those who throw their lives away for my sake shall find it." Most people choose not to obey Jesus, and instead reason with the wisdom of the world, forgetting gods power.
Your translation is lying to you. Peter asked about a brother, not just anyone--a brother.
Don't forget the Syrian woman. This same Jesus called her a 'dog' when she asked for healing for her daughter. Being a part of the family matters.
John 1:17
Yeah, I'm not rejoicing over her death, at all. I don't rejoice in the death of any, I don't want anyone to go to Hell.
I mean, I always just go back to the Old Testament with that bit about pouring molten gold down the throats of bad people.
I agree.
So I expect you all to stone some blasphemers to death as per Leviticus 24:16.
Or you could just admit everyone cuts out the parts of the Bible that they don’t like.
Yes, even you.
Here’s the biggest thing people tend to forget when it comes to the Old Testament is that it is the whole sum of the Israel nation, it’s religion, laws, history, culture, music and poems. People arguing against the Bible generally don’t look that far and grab some law that the Israelites probably made themselves or misinterpret some song or poem. Or even just take a section out of context to the rest of the story or chapter. It’s the main reason the New Testament is looked at more because it’s the recorded history of Jesus and his teachings and how the church should act.
Exactly what I’m saying really.
The New Testament is Christianity. The Old Testament is Judaism.
No matter which way you slice this is (a wee bit oversimplified) truth.
It’s more the people who say “believe the whole Bible as the perfect word of God” who I’m talking about.
Basically Bible infallibility and you saying “some law that the Israelites probably made themselves” don’t exactly gel.
That's because the Old Testament was rendered null and void as a book of law when Christ died. You can't go pick and choose pieces of the old testament to post on the internet while ignoring the other 80% of law that doesn't jive with your modern lifestyle.
Jesus got crucified by AND forgave a bunch of jewish & pagan criminals who undermine God's law.
Jesus set the example for us. He told us we will be persecuted. You cannot choose to believe in Jesus and just ignore his greatest example because it's hard to accept.
Hate chips away at your eternal soul. Is it really worth losing a part of your eternal soul over an earthly society?
RBG ain't my neighbor
You can love but still condem evil. People are complex characters, not simply binary "good" and "evil".
However, we are not the eternal judge, so rather than wasting our time harboring hatred, we can speak out against evil, pray for conversion of souls, etc.
Love doesn't mean passively sitting by necessarily, but the problem is we need to avoid submitting to hate. Casting judgement is the greatest temptation the devil has for the righteous. When you cast judgement for evil, you a tricked into thinking that hatred is justifiable. When it's not.
Forgiveness is power over hatred and sin, it's the greatest act of love. And yes sometimes it may make you a "push over" but when your God literally got crucified instead of "fighting back", you have an example set of just how much you are supposed to forgive.
Jesus literally tells us all the time that we are going to be persecuted. And he was crucified, so there can be no justification for submitting to hate.
"Hate is drinking poison and hoping the other person gets sick"
By tolerating evil it means that one truly hates that person.
We are to hate the Spirits not the human, but that does not mean that the human is absolved from consequences and must follow through on them.
Its like this:
Eat a lot a lot of the time you get fat, and when you get fat then you get diabetes, high blood pressure, and lots of other problems. You will have to work much harder and be more strict with yourself than others because of the first mistake. The second is not being strict and working hard to lose it, and that will lead to your eventual maiming and death.
Lusting even in the small amounts eventually gets to the point of leading to death in multiple areas besides physical.
This is the same with any action that we are not active in controlling and rebuking.
That is the first part.
The term spirits and dominion over the earth that my pastor said a while back started to make sense to me a couple weeks ago. Hate the spirit, but love the person for they are lost yet still can be saved. That is where personal choice comes in.
Personal choice is the second part, and the spirits of good or evil have no dominion on the earth unless agreed upon by the human.
Holy shit I didn't even know. Now that's something else.
Ritual killing, most likely. Special gematria, perhaps.
Plebbit tried to spin it that to die on the last day of whatever week Rosh Hashanah is means they’re seen as the most righteous in god’s eyes.
And of course those fucking degenerates lapped that right up.
Imagine if the seat gets filled on Yom Kippur.
Not just that but if you are not a Christian, you are banned from using Christianity as an argument. "Oh Jesus would let raping refugees into America. Even though I spend every other day of my life saying Jesus didn't exist and have a mental breakdown whenever someone says oh thank God."
This is what bothers me the most as a non-believer. You can't reject religion then try and use it to get your point across.
Using your own rules and code of conduct against you is part of their tactics. Bind you by your own restrictions and while they break all the rules.
It's Rules for Radicals and was written by Saul Alinsky, one of Obama's mentors.
Darn right. There is NOTHING wrong with celebrating the death of evil. RBG was EVIL. She supported and aided in the death of innocent babies. I'm glad she's dead and I sincerely hope she is burning in hell.
If she repented before the end, great.
If she didn't, well, she's facing just the beginning of eternal justice for her sins.
I would like to know more
Agreed. There is always time for true repentance before the end, and we know the Lord will always give it as He knows if the repentance is True or not.
That said, I seriously doubt there was any. I would be surprised.
I know a guy who’s fond of saying, if anyone- they get what’s coming to them, either way.
I'm so glad this got a Sticky
AMEN!
the crabs, hahahaha
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-50NdPawLVY
Turn your speakers up and throw your mouse/keyboard away.
Thanks for the information. It's hard to keep up with the memes sometimes. So we like centipedes, bears, and now crabs. When did the crabs become a thing?
Whenever the guy made it, 2018 I think.
You must be new.
Ever heard of crab rave?
the crab rave thing
Ever seen the kill stream on DLive??
I definitely remember the megathread about Trump's brother and all the nice things the good people of Reddit said about him.
LMAO. The best depiction of an NPC I’ve ever seen. Hilarious.
Everyone is just happy she's off the court. If she had retired years ago and just died no one would give a shit. It's not my fault she wanted to die a political death at work.
Updoot for the USA crab rave.
Better live on the corner of a roof than in the whole house with a contentious woman. Proverbs 25:24
Ran into this one as a young wife....
Shut the fuck up, heathen.
The time for Christians to turn the other cheek is over.
The Leftists declared war on America, on our Christianity... it is time we stop seeing them as countrymen.
They hate everything we STAND for. It is why these traitors demand that we KNEEL.
Like Leonidas said to Xerxes from ancient history, that bears repeating in 2020, relating to the oath that millions of us have taken... we kneel before no enemies, be them foreign or domestic.
Amen.
Enlighten us Pastor, as to your interpretation.
What am I claiming?
The problem is people interpret "turn the other cheek" as be passive. What it really means is just to forgive your trespassers. But I warn you do not submit to hate.
Jesus forgave up to his dying breath. Christians do not forsake the fundamental principle of love and forgiveness because it's hard.
We were told we'd be persecuted, our brothers and sisters have been getting killed for years for our faith. It's time us American Christians grow a friggin spine and start standing up for the Lord.
It does not mean to forsake his greatest commandment when it's tough. It means to show the world Loud and proud who God is and what his love and accomplish.
When christians start to hate, who is acting out of love?
Damn they really don't teach you this stuff in school huh?
Fuck. I wish there was a place where i could read it all. There's no point in teaching history if we don't teach all of it.
*let
give him a break.. look at the size of that brain testicle!
Can't share with the typo.
Is the bible actually that based?
More; if you let someone describe the basic aspects of Christian theology who isn't severely cuckholded, its far more metal than any metal band. In terms of politics, one of the books of the Bible (Nehemiah) is about a hero of old who built a wall despite extreme political opposition. In the new testament Jesus advises his followers to buy sidearms whenever they don't own one (Luke 22:36).
The Bible is 100% based excepting subjective preference.
The King James is. ALL other versions in English(that I know of) have been compromised with Vaticanus and Sinaiticus which are fake manuscripts..
To me, there is nothing more wicked than taking the lives of the unborn. RBG was a wicked woman.
A literal demon.
When liberals find out you are conservative but not religious 🤯🤯🤯
Jesus techno dancing crabs. Christianity really is the best.
DON’T LET ANYONE TELL YOU YOUR RULES
THE POWER OF KEK COMPELS YOU BITCH
not happy she's dead, just happy that she's no longer in power.
“As a dog returns to his vomit, so a fool repeat his folly.” Proverbs 26:11
🦀 🦀 🦀 🦀
emojis you can hear
She was certainly wicked. That's why the world loved her.
I'm not celebrating RBG's death. I am celebrating an opening on the Supreme Court.
Furthermore, it is high irony for those who openly mock Christianity to tell those who practice Christianity what it means to be a Christian.
libs will never entertain any alternate perspectives where they are not the good guys of the story
Absolutely. God is with us
Amen
I like how his hair bun looks like an upside-down shriveled nutsack.
Is there a way the creator can fix the “less” to “let” ?
I love the crabs I am a crab buyer in the DC /Baltimore area year round. I run crabs from the south from Florida-gulf on up through GA/SC to the city. I am so amazed by the number of Trump stickers and flags I see on cars.Usually the Biden stickers hog the left lane backing up traffic on the interstate.
Proverbs 29:2
When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.
Perfect representation of Libs
The wages of sin is death.
Fin
This is a funny meme, but on the serious side, I hate to label her as evil. I'll accept weak minded. Her intention may have been good, but her ideology was flawed. Maybe she bought into lefty propaganda because she was born susceptible to influence, which doesn't make her evil, just naïve. Maybe she was a bad person. We may never know, but only one person can reserve judgement.
LOL, not even close. Being naive doesn't make you a victim. Give my post a second look, I hope that wasn't how it comes across
Less hate and more pity, at least when I don't look into her decisions.
Agreed. Tired of cucks celebrating people who've promoted the murder of tens of millions of babies, infringed on the rights of hundreds of millions of Americans, and helped promote globalism around the world, etc, etc. She was so committed to baby murder that she refused to retire from the court and give up the last years of her life in hopes that she could hold on until a democrat president could appoint another baby murdering supporter judge. She died of old age. She had her entire life to give up her evil ways and never did. She was a deeply terrible and evil person who we should all be happy is gone.
I have read that proverb and wondered about it. I couldn’t picture anyone rejoicing about anyone evil passing on. Reference Proverbs 24:17 The Proverbs that really encourages me about the evil in Washington is how they don’t get away with it!! Proverbs 24:16-22. Good stuff fren.
What is the 3 crabs reference?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-uV0q1Nd8g
Wow, my memery is getting low. Back to the trenches!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDQxMy7_j2E
http://stonetoss.com/comic/court-adjourned/
I'm sure if a Trumpian person died they would be totally respectful
Jesus himself would have put the millstone on Ruth.
Let the dead bury their dead
-Jesus Christ