Those who are sent to hell have completely separated their souls from God. It is not God who does this, it is them through their earthly actions.
God is willing to forgive anyone who repents (see Saul/Paul). Those sent to hell have separate themselves from God through sin. They embraced Satan and turned away from god.
Now that we have that established, let me ask you this. Do you think celebrating anyone's death (out of vengeance) brings you closer to God, or Satan?
If God sends someone to Hell, shouldn't we rejoice He is God and it's His Judgement to send them
This creates a false dichotomy. Either we have to be sad or rejoice when God judges a soul. I don't think humans should concern themselves with God's judgement of others period. That is between them and God I think Jesus made this clear.
I'm not saying my judgement is better than God's, to the contrary I am saying we do not know God's judgement.
We also cannot know what God actually judges, because we are of earth. To presume to know God's judgement is a flaw.
I'm butting in to address that last question because I find this line of conversation interesting, I hope you guys don't mind. When it's the death of the wicked and it saves the lives of innocents, I don't think celebrating it brings one closer to Satan.
As to whether it brings us closer to God, I think whether or not we're "celebrating" by thanking Him for removing an instrument of evil from the world is what makes the difference. I could be wrong but couldn't resist throwing that out there!
SPEZ to add a reminder to myself to lean not to my own understanding. This will make for a good dig into the Word. Unfortunately I'm on my way out the door but hope to come back to this topic. Thanks all for the inspiration.
I think there's a bit of a false dichotomy going on here. The idea is that we don't have to "celebrate" per se. You can be glad that the supreme court is moving more conservative without necessarily celebrating the end of a life.
I think the biggest takeaway is just that we can't let hate consume us, even if you believe it is justified. Because the act of hate, no matter the reasoning behind it, is what separates us from God
Whoever says he is in the light and hates his brother is still in darkness.
God loves, Satan hates. This is established over and over during Jesus' ministry and cemented and when jesus does not even hate his captors.
Remember Peter cut off the ear of one of the Roman guards, and Jesus healed him. This is Jesus rejecting the notion that we can match evil/hatred with equal hatred
Those who are sent to hell have completely separated their souls from God. It is not God who does this, it is them through their earthly actions.
God is willing to forgive anyone who repents (see Saul/Paul). Those sent to hell have separate themselves from God through sin. They embraced Satan and turned away from god.
Now that we have that established, let me ask you this. Do you think celebrating anyone's death (out of vengeance) brings you closer to God, or Satan?
This creates a false dichotomy. Either we have to be sad or rejoice when God judges a soul. I don't think humans should concern themselves with God's judgement of others period. That is between them and God I think Jesus made this clear.
I'm not saying my judgement is better than God's, to the contrary I am saying we do not know God's judgement.
We also cannot know what God actually judges, because we are of earth. To presume to know God's judgement is a flaw.
Lol. Friend...fellow pede...I aint gonna be lured into that :)
Lets just leave it as it is.
I'm butting in to address that last question because I find this line of conversation interesting, I hope you guys don't mind. When it's the death of the wicked and it saves the lives of innocents, I don't think celebrating it brings one closer to Satan.
As to whether it brings us closer to God, I think whether or not we're "celebrating" by thanking Him for removing an instrument of evil from the world is what makes the difference. I could be wrong but couldn't resist throwing that out there!
SPEZ to add a reminder to myself to lean not to my own understanding. This will make for a good dig into the Word. Unfortunately I'm on my way out the door but hope to come back to this topic. Thanks all for the inspiration.
I think there's a bit of a false dichotomy going on here. The idea is that we don't have to "celebrate" per se. You can be glad that the supreme court is moving more conservative without necessarily celebrating the end of a life.
I think the biggest takeaway is just that we can't let hate consume us, even if you believe it is justified. Because the act of hate, no matter the reasoning behind it, is what separates us from God
I strongly disagree with that. Sin separates us from God.
Hatred of evil isn't sinful.
Sin is the manifestation of hate
1 john 2:9
God loves, Satan hates. This is established over and over during Jesus' ministry and cemented and when jesus does not even hate his captors.
Remember Peter cut off the ear of one of the Roman guards, and Jesus healed him. This is Jesus rejecting the notion that we can match evil/hatred with equal hatred