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goat_nebula 61 points ago +65 / -4

Do they not realize that Jewish Heaven and Christian Heaven are the same place??

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Side-o-Beef_Curtains 49 points ago +51 / -2

Do they not realize that heaven is a moot point for Ruthy?

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synd1050 14 points ago +15 / -1

no.I thought Jews don't believe in heaven.

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goat_nebula 19 points ago +19 / -0

Eternal Life in the Kingdom. What are you suggesting they do believe in? Judaism is just the Old Testament. Talks about Heaven a lot in there. Only difference anybody could make here is that Christ says you must believe in Him to get there, Christ doesn’t come out saying that Jews go somewhere else. Christ WAS Jewish. All Christians are are followers of Judaism that believe Christ to be the Messiah whereas Jews don’t and believe the Messiah has yet to come and will be more like a warrior king like David was.

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JeremiahKassin 14 points ago +15 / -1

Eh. There's different thoughts. Judaism proper doesn't have a concrete idea of what the afterlife is. There have even been branches of Judaism that claim there is no afterlife. And there's branches that believe essentially the same thing as Christians.

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DarkestMatt 4 points ago +12 / -8

It's important to know, that when it comes to mysticism, there's only one objectively correct answer, which is that Christianity is correct, and anyone who thinks otherwise needs to study up on their mysticism and learn to think objectively!

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Long_time_lurker 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yeah, I think that part of this is even covered in the New Testament, where it mentions that the Sadducees do not believe in heaving, angels or demons, but the Pharisees do. It's the part where they talk about the woman who has been married multiple times and ask who she's married to in heaven?

(Answer: nobody. It's "until death do you part" for a reason.)

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viVbiz-bufmu1-qodmem 0 points ago +1 / -1

This is the correct answer.
Afterlife isn’t debated by Jews since it’s something that god controls and you kinda should just let him do his job while you do yours (and that’s mostly just to study the Torah per the actual rules).

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wholesomekangz100 3 points ago +6 / -3

They don't have to. They're never going there xD

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synd1050 3 points ago +3 / -0

Heaven exists !!

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LibertyOverSecurity 2 points ago +3 / -1

They don't care. They just want to silence Christians because they hate God.

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goat_nebula 2 points ago +2 / -0

Fair enough!

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goat_nebula 4 points ago +7 / -3

You realize Jesus was Jewish right? He didn’t preach that the Jews were all a different religion with a different God and afterlife. You can still be angry that it was the Jewish clergy that killed him, but that doesn’t change the fact that Christianity is derived from Judaism and worship the same God.

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ScullyMully 3 points ago +3 / -0

the Jewish clergy that killed him

It was Roman rule that sentenced Him.

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goat_nebula 3 points ago +3 / -0

Also true. The clergy put him up for judgement and the Romans carried it out to appease them. When he asked the Jews if they wished to pardon Christ or Barabus the murderer they chose Barabus.

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goat_nebula 2 points ago +5 / -3

Who do you mean by you or exposing yourselves? I’m a Lutheran who has had a lot of long conversations with my step-father who was/is my pastor and has a doctorate in Theology. Not sure what you’re getting at here.

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viVbiz-bufmu1-qodmem 0 points ago +1 / -1

You should know that Jews spend very little time thinking of Jesus in a theological sense. The energies are spent studying the more ancient scripts. Jesus His life and teachings are more like fan fiction. It’s there if you want to read it and all. But no one really talks about it. Nor Islam not hindu. I imagine Christians don’t actually spend time studying judiasim either in typical life. (Theology studies aside)