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goat_nebula 4 points ago +7 / -3

You realize Jesus was Jewish right? He didn’t preach that the Jews were all a different religion with a different God and afterlife. You can still be angry that it was the Jewish clergy that killed him, but that doesn’t change the fact that Christianity is derived from Judaism and worship the same God.

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ScullyMully 3 points ago +3 / -0

the Jewish clergy that killed him

It was Roman rule that sentenced Him.

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goat_nebula 3 points ago +3 / -0

Also true. The clergy put him up for judgement and the Romans carried it out to appease them. When he asked the Jews if they wished to pardon Christ or Barabus the murderer they chose Barabus.

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goat_nebula 2 points ago +5 / -3

Who do you mean by you or exposing yourselves? I’m a Lutheran who has had a lot of long conversations with my step-father who was/is my pastor and has a doctorate in Theology. Not sure what you’re getting at here.

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goat_nebula 4 points ago +4 / -0

Who am I protecting here? There are absolute problems with the Church as an organization right now, mostly because it’s imperfect men trying to run an institution whereas Christ preached that WE are The Church, not some governing body or institution. Not wanting to argue with my fellow believers either, but I’m not going to ignore the origins of our faith or rewrite it for some reason.

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BurgerChef90 2 points ago +2 / -0

A lot of people hide behind Christianity as a way to say "Hey, I'm not those things you accuse me of, I'm a good Christian, see?!"

But in private, they're the most vile, disgusting humans on earth.

These people are "Christians" not in the way that they're good people who believe in the Messiah, but they're "Christians" in public so they can use it as a shield to "protect" themselves against the good people who might expose them for the evil filth they truly are.

I mean, look at Pelosi. She uses her "Catholic faith" as a way to get back at Trump by basically saying "this is what a REAL Christian does and how a REAL Christian acts." She uses her "faith" to convince people she's "holy" and a good person whose doings good for the Lord. She uses it to hide her evil doings. A lot of people are like that sadly. We may not be able to find them, but God sure will, and God will make them pay. God doesn't like someone who publicly says they serve Him, while they serve themselves or Satan in private.

I believe there is a lot of Satanic and occult crap going on under the guise of "Christianity" and "Judaism." I think you mentioned something like that above.

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Long_time_lurker 2 points ago +3 / -1

Jews aren't exactly monolithic, either today or back then. It's true, some Jews did write some disgusting things about Jesus. It's also true that some long dead Jews presented Jesus to the Romans who actually executed Him on charges of sedition.

But it's also true that the "gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable." Now, nobody can live up to the law and they no longer have a temple to make any sin offerings in, either, there's only Jesus. In the NT, I believe it was Paul who even wishes himself to be accursed in order to save the lost Jews.

Yet it's also true that many particular people who were Jewish have done awful things. Some, like Saul who held the coats of those who stoned Stephen, repented. Others did not. Others delivered believers into prisons, beat them 39 times with rods, scourged them, disowned them, removed the believers from the places of worship and their homes.

But it's not right or good to assign collective blame. I know that I do not want to share blame with everyone who has the same sex organs, melanin content, or birthplace. Judge each one fairly, by their works. Some are, as you've said evil. Others, like Saul, may yet repent, even after doing evil things. God only knows.