Who do you mean by you or exposing yourselves? I’m a Lutheran who has had a lot of long conversations with my step-father who was/is my pastor and has a doctorate in Theology. Not sure what you’re getting at here.
Who am I protecting here? There are absolute problems with the Church as an organization right now, mostly because it’s imperfect men trying to run an institution whereas Christ preached that WE are The Church, not some governing body or institution. Not wanting to argue with my fellow believers either, but I’m not going to ignore the origins of our faith or rewrite it for some reason.
A lot of people hide behind Christianity as a way to say "Hey, I'm not those things you accuse me of, I'm a good Christian, see?!"
But in private, they're the most vile, disgusting humans on earth.
These people are "Christians" not in the way that they're good people who believe in the Messiah, but they're "Christians" in public so they can use it as a shield to "protect" themselves against the good people who might expose them for the evil filth they truly are.
I mean, look at Pelosi. She uses her "Catholic faith" as a way to get back at Trump by basically saying "this is what a REAL Christian does and how a REAL Christian acts." She uses her "faith" to convince people she's "holy" and a good person whose doings good for the Lord. She uses it to hide her evil doings. A lot of people are like that sadly. We may not be able to find them, but God sure will, and God will make them pay. God doesn't like someone who publicly says they serve Him, while they serve themselves or Satan in private.
I believe there is a lot of Satanic and occult crap going on under the guise of "Christianity" and "Judaism." I think you mentioned something like that above.
Jews aren't exactly monolithic, either today or back then. It's true, some Jews did write some disgusting things about Jesus. It's also true that some long dead Jews presented Jesus to the Romans who actually executed Him on charges of sedition.
But it's also true that the "gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable." Now, nobody can live up to the law and they no longer have a temple to make any sin offerings in, either, there's only Jesus. In the NT, I believe it was Paul who even wishes himself to be accursed in order to save the lost Jews.
Yet it's also true that many particular people who were Jewish have done awful things. Some, like Saul who held the coats of those who stoned Stephen, repented. Others did not. Others delivered believers into prisons, beat them 39 times with rods, scourged them, disowned them, removed the believers from the places of worship and their homes.
But it's not right or good to assign collective blame. I know that I do not want to share blame with everyone who has the same sex organs, melanin content, or birthplace. Judge each one fairly, by their works. Some are, as you've said evil. Others, like Saul, may yet repent, even after doing evil things. God only knows.
Collective blame and assignment of it is exactly how we get into stupid conversations like repetitions.
Bottom line, and I know it’s hard to understand, but there is no central Jewish authority. Further, the sects of judiaisim are as different as catholic, and southern Episcopalian and 7th day.
Yeah, the Jews got divided up a lot after the 2nd Temple was destroyed. Some were the first Christians. In fact, the Bible indicates that only Jews were Christians up until that vision wherein God tells them to let the Gentiles join.
Now there were certainly other Jews who did not follow Jesus. There's also mention in the Bible of a "synagogue of Satan" and certain particular Jews and Romans persecuted Christians. Nero fed Christians to the lions. Some Jewish scholars wrote awful things about Jesus, saying He was in Gehenna, etc.
The reason most Jewish sects are somewhat anti-Christian today is because those Jews that didn't join the Christians fought with them. Then the Christians took over the Roman empire and they ended up being made to regret that, and the cycle repeated over and over in various times and ways.
So Christianity was founded by Jews: Jesus, all the apostles, etc. were Jewish Christians. But most (but not all!) of those who still call themselves Jews now are from those who rejected Christ and who continue to do so. Our modern experience with liberal, atheistic people who are ethnically Jewish, but who often reject even the trappings of their own ethnic religion, has not been the norm for all of history.
There are Messianic Jews and others who recognize Jesus to this day. And there are other groups of liberal atheists who are ethnically Jewish and have a hate-boner for Christianity. It's neither wise nor good to lump those groups together.
I won't disagree with you on that part. We do have to stand up to all who would silence us. We do have to destroy the cultural programming wherein we're taught things like "separation of church and state (which isn't even in the constitution proper) means that you can't legislate anything based on your morality, but let's just ignore that that doesn't apply to us..."
Just saying that I don't want to other all Jews. Instead, I'll speak against specific individuals who are doing or have done bad things and try not to blame people collectively, though it's hard when using the various shorthands for the group of people who believe X.
Who do you mean by you or exposing yourselves? I’m a Lutheran who has had a lot of long conversations with my step-father who was/is my pastor and has a doctorate in Theology. Not sure what you’re getting at here.
Who am I protecting here? There are absolute problems with the Church as an organization right now, mostly because it’s imperfect men trying to run an institution whereas Christ preached that WE are The Church, not some governing body or institution. Not wanting to argue with my fellow believers either, but I’m not going to ignore the origins of our faith or rewrite it for some reason.
A lot of people hide behind Christianity as a way to say "Hey, I'm not those things you accuse me of, I'm a good Christian, see?!"
But in private, they're the most vile, disgusting humans on earth.
These people are "Christians" not in the way that they're good people who believe in the Messiah, but they're "Christians" in public so they can use it as a shield to "protect" themselves against the good people who might expose them for the evil filth they truly are.
I mean, look at Pelosi. She uses her "Catholic faith" as a way to get back at Trump by basically saying "this is what a REAL Christian does and how a REAL Christian acts." She uses her "faith" to convince people she's "holy" and a good person whose doings good for the Lord. She uses it to hide her evil doings. A lot of people are like that sadly. We may not be able to find them, but God sure will, and God will make them pay. God doesn't like someone who publicly says they serve Him, while they serve themselves or Satan in private.
I believe there is a lot of Satanic and occult crap going on under the guise of "Christianity" and "Judaism." I think you mentioned something like that above.
Jews aren't exactly monolithic, either today or back then. It's true, some Jews did write some disgusting things about Jesus. It's also true that some long dead Jews presented Jesus to the Romans who actually executed Him on charges of sedition.
But it's also true that the "gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable." Now, nobody can live up to the law and they no longer have a temple to make any sin offerings in, either, there's only Jesus. In the NT, I believe it was Paul who even wishes himself to be accursed in order to save the lost Jews.
Yet it's also true that many particular people who were Jewish have done awful things. Some, like Saul who held the coats of those who stoned Stephen, repented. Others did not. Others delivered believers into prisons, beat them 39 times with rods, scourged them, disowned them, removed the believers from the places of worship and their homes.
But it's not right or good to assign collective blame. I know that I do not want to share blame with everyone who has the same sex organs, melanin content, or birthplace. Judge each one fairly, by their works. Some are, as you've said evil. Others, like Saul, may yet repent, even after doing evil things. God only knows.
Collective blame and assignment of it is exactly how we get into stupid conversations like repetitions.
Bottom line, and I know it’s hard to understand, but there is no central Jewish authority. Further, the sects of judiaisim are as different as catholic, and southern Episcopalian and 7th day.
Yeah, the Jews got divided up a lot after the 2nd Temple was destroyed. Some were the first Christians. In fact, the Bible indicates that only Jews were Christians up until that vision wherein God tells them to let the Gentiles join.
Now there were certainly other Jews who did not follow Jesus. There's also mention in the Bible of a "synagogue of Satan" and certain particular Jews and Romans persecuted Christians. Nero fed Christians to the lions. Some Jewish scholars wrote awful things about Jesus, saying He was in Gehenna, etc.
The reason most Jewish sects are somewhat anti-Christian today is because those Jews that didn't join the Christians fought with them. Then the Christians took over the Roman empire and they ended up being made to regret that, and the cycle repeated over and over in various times and ways.
So Christianity was founded by Jews: Jesus, all the apostles, etc. were Jewish Christians. But most (but not all!) of those who still call themselves Jews now are from those who rejected Christ and who continue to do so. Our modern experience with liberal, atheistic people who are ethnically Jewish, but who often reject even the trappings of their own ethnic religion, has not been the norm for all of history.
There are Messianic Jews and others who recognize Jesus to this day. And there are other groups of liberal atheists who are ethnically Jewish and have a hate-boner for Christianity. It's neither wise nor good to lump those groups together.
I won't disagree with you on that part. We do have to stand up to all who would silence us. We do have to destroy the cultural programming wherein we're taught things like "separation of church and state (which isn't even in the constitution proper) means that you can't legislate anything based on your morality, but let's just ignore that that doesn't apply to us..."
Just saying that I don't want to other all Jews. Instead, I'll speak against specific individuals who are doing or have done bad things and try not to blame people collectively, though it's hard when using the various shorthands for the group of people who believe X.