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So...What Day Works for You? (media.patriots.win)
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840726 64 points ago +64 / -0

It was destroyed in minutes lol. The "garden" was about 200 square feet.

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MMXX 105 points ago +105 / -0

Are you ready for the punchline? The guy who started the CHOP garden has a Masters degree in "Sustainability in the Urban Environment": https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2020/06/12/43897621/meet-the-farmer-behind-chazs-vegetable-gardens

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Konsaki 58 points ago +58 / -0

Ironically, there are techniques to make a city self sustaining, such as hydroponics facilities and rooftop/terrace farming. The reason we don't do so right now is because it's just not economically viable, as mass rural farming is vastly more efficient than the 'city methods'.

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BigPepeEnergy 42 points ago +42 / -0

Yeah the real issue is that not enough people who live in urban areas want to take the time and effort necessary to upkeep even a small garden. I live in the burbs, we have a decent sized garden, and its work on top of whatever job you have. You can't just get home from the office, make a sustainable Soy-Smoothie, smoke a ton of pot and shitpost to ChapoTraphouse for 8 hours. Gardening takes attentiveness, planning and time every day. These shmucks don't have what it takes on top of it being far less cost effective than rural farming.

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SimpForMelania 17 points ago +17 / -0

I've tried to successfully garden SO many times and keep failing, so I really respect people who can. I grew some tomatoes once and they tasted so good that I keep trying lol

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Libertas_Vel_Mors 15 points ago +15 / -0

...wait'll you get up to homesteading size. My wife and I spend an average of 6 hours a week maintaining ours - and that is definitely not counting the hours spent processing, dehydrating, canning, freezer-prep, and seed-harvesting the produce we do get out of it.

On the plus side, we get long conversations w/o electronic interference, and 50% of our grocery bill is taken care of (I'm currently expanding things so that 80% of our grocery needs disappear.)

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braveContrarian 1 point ago +4 / -3

thats not true at all.

me and my friends in the mountains smoke pot and garden at the same time all the time. and get tons of food from it.

honestly if pot affects you that badly, your too low IQ to even work at mcdonalds im sorry. you should be labeled with like 30 learning disabilities if thats the case.

Drinking alcohol has a far worse and more severe effect on intelligence and decision making. you can also drive 100% safely on THC as well. and its been a recognized medicine for over 5000 years up until congress committed fraud to make it totally illegal and then the rest of the world slowly followed through as places like the UN created the drug schedule system and pushed it on everyone (reagan did not start the war, he accepted the directive from the UN)

so much fraud gets done with drugs you have no idea. like suboxone -- reckett and benickiser committed several acts of fraud to get that past the FDA but nobody cares. for one, the naloxone in it is inactive because it has less binding affinity than bupe -- meaning the strips are fully injectible and the courses the doctors take for certification straight up lie and it can be easily proven.

not only that but theyve created a system which deprives people of treatment with caps on patients and specialized doctors who only take cash -- often working BOTH in pain management and that which is a true racket (get em addicted, keep em addicted, cash visits only)

so in combination, even if you have the money and are desperate you could end up on a 5 year waiting list. 99% of patients arent addicted and use once per month before going to fail the drug test so they can get 3 boxes a month (more than any person needs in the world) and sell them all for massive profits.

it creates a black market intentionally -- ive even known doctors to take strips out of peoples scripts sometimes for private illegal use or to sell on the side. but no matter how many cops, people like me who once were patients, or anyone else tries to blow the whistle nobody gives a damn shit. I even DID email the FDA but they dont care.

btw in order to quit their demon drug, I had to treat myself in unauthorized manner utilizing kratom and DXM cough syrup. worked like charm. clean off all opiates for 8 years. and yes DXM has beneficial properties for helping out opiate addiction. its in medical studies. lot of ways its a worse drug than heroin with a brutally long 2 month withdrawal. you really are better off just cold turkey.

Ive had fights on reddit with people over it -- the reason they deny the truth about suboxone is because they heavily profit from it. the doctor pays for itself and then some. easiest money you ever made in drug dealing. could be solved by forcing them to look for injection sites at dr visits, pill counts, as well as removing the fraud course and allowing GMs to prescribe directly paid for by insurance.

right now people pay like $300 for a visit once a month, but end up making like $800 a month off it once you realize insurance IS covering the drug they arent using and get to sell. people literally fill up the limited seats to do this because its easy money just to sell at inflated rates to people who do need it.

Some realize injection is possible that do need it, and then use that to stretch their own supply out to sell -- which the doctors claim is impossible (had fights with em) but its a widely known fact by anyone with pharmacology knowledge about these substances. its just the company and many of the users intentionally and knowingly perpetuate fraud.

its entirely possible to take 1 pill, go to outpatient rehab on insurance a few times a week, shoot up in the bathroom at rehab, and sell a majority of your rehab drugs which they refuse to look for signs of abuse or sale because its suboxone. they never count. dont look for injection sites. dont care. and believe the lies they were fed.

im actually sad, because yes, in this case I DO know more than those doctors (not all, just those ones, and just related to this specific subject).

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Aoikaze2000 10 points ago +10 / -0

Except if they legalize marijuana, it won't be lettuce that's grown in the warehouses....

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ChrisTheSoberITGuy 18 points ago +18 / -0

And planted on top of cardboard with a little soil on top. Didn't even cut through the cardboard

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Demonspawn 13 points ago +13 / -0

Secondly, why the hell does he think that’s happening? What could be different from the 1920s to now?

Because everyone who didn't live in a city farmed back in the 1920s. It wouldn't shock me at all to find out he was accurate.

There's been a significant shift from rural farming to non-farming since the early 1900s. Farms have been consolidated (it's not just black farmers who have dropped in numbers massively) and it's amazing how little of our population farms now. We did have a small return to farming with victory gardens during WWII, but that's long over now.

First of all, I’d like to see the numbers on how many farms were owned by whites back then and owned by whites now.

It's the exact same tend among whites as well. That's why his statement is complete propaganda: it highlights one race while ignoring the overall trend was the same across all races.

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braveContrarian 2 points ago +2 / -0

well really this also had to do with the consolidation of wealth after every major economic disaster. think "grapes of wrath"

the thing is, the 1920s depression was intentionally created by a group of insiders for the purpose of consolidating the economy; or at least beginning to.

if you know how JFK became rich, youd know his dad was a mob-boss who was in on the whole depression thing and cashed out the day prior with other insiders. thats how JFK became aware of the conspiracy at an early age and probably why he was killed off. his family never experienced a depression, but amazing wealth.

look at NYC right now. whole point is to devalue the city/state to 0 and then buy up million dollar properties for a nickel, gentrify them, open up all the businesses and restaurants under their own banners, and actually take over the economy.

that is the point. thats why all the bailouts only ever go to the large corporations and banks who intentionally misuse them as bonus money and never to the small businesses that get wiped out.

if you wanted a true bailout plan, it would have to fuck over the 1% and aim more for the 10-20%. the 1% can bite the loss and keep only the property they have and still make profits -- just not GROW economically.

in my view it doesnt matter if the small guy grows instead of him, while he stays more stagnant.

if you bailed out the people they could simply buy back their own farms and businesses for less than their original mortgages.

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Luminous_2a 13 points ago +13 / -0

I'm assuming they were using it to keep weeds down. You cut holes in it where you put your plants so that there are no weeds in between the plantings. That alone wasn't a completely terrible idea, but there was no way that a garden that small would made enough produce for more than a couple of people. Even then, it would be months before anything was edible.

Ideally, you would put the cardboard down where you want to plant, wet it, then let it kill off the weeds/grass and naturally compost in the soil over the fall/winter so that it's ready for spring planting.

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MMXX 11 points ago +11 / -0

It's called sheet mulching, but they did it way too late in the season and with not nearly enough soil on top of the cardboard.

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MudDog 2 points ago +2 / -0

They had to save room for the supply gliders to land