I'd say neutral. They were the first advertiser to come back to the Ingraham Angle on Fox back when the pity simp David Hogg told them all to boycott the show.
They responded by saying "Sorry for going on incomplete information, we'll resume advertising but that doesn't mean we endorse the content on the show ..." or something along those lines.
Most of them are franchises. And I am willing to pay a couple bucks more to go to Ace. The last time I was there, I made it very specific to tell the employees that they will be seeing me more often because of the BLM bullshit that home fucko has aligned themselves with.
The conversation was back when they were just starting to sell Craftsman tools and I was trying to replace a broken Craftsman socket wrench and he said I probably could find the right socket wrench at Ace which I interpreted as Lowe’s owning Ace.
"They run a corporate rotation for your weekly hours and you can't go over 39 or you'll get written up" - not entirely true. Source - family member works for lowes. He goes over 39 all the time and the rotation thing got ditched, at least in the 2 stores he's been at.
"They schedule you to make it impossible for you to have another job or life outside of work." - Definitely true. I mean, nothing is impossible but your side hustle better be super flexible.
Lowes' CEO is a black dude. Not sure if it's an affirmative action hire or the guy is good. They're doing everything they can to emulate Home Depot though.
No argument on the inventory / POS being obsolete. It's literally DOS 2.1 or some shit. They can never find things that are supposedly "200 in stock". I will say, I get some pretty sweet deals on non-stock stuff. My relative found a $600 grill that had been in the back for maybe 3 years. $50. Deck chairs? $100 for 6 that were regularly $300/pair. Dented $2000 fridge? $200. His store did away w/ the set rotation about a year ago. They use "Kronos" and then the managers go in an change shit all around anyway.
No argument on the inventory / POS being obsolete. It's literally DOS 2.1 or some shit. They can never find things that are supposedly "200 in stock". I will say, I get some pretty sweet deals on non-stock stuff. My relative found a $600 grill that had been in the back for maybe 3 years. $50. Deck chairs? $100 for 6 that were regularly $300/pair. Dented $2000 fridge? $200. His store did away w/ the set rotation about a year ago. They use "Kronos" and then the managers go in an change shit all around anyway.
Im finding that in general its just better to go to specialty stores that are locally owned. They always have better selection, their staff know their shit, and their prices usually arent that bad. Hell if you buy enough half the time they give you contractor pricing.
Tell me, is anyone at HD or lowes going to be able to tell you if their redwood is FOHC? Will they know what grade sheathing is on the CAT6 cable they sell? Hell, half the time they cant even answer basic questions like "are these fasteners good for exterior applications or will they rust out?"
That's any big box store. They hire schlubs for $11/hr that don't know shit. It's literally that Parks and Rec scene when Ron Swanson goes into Lowes and the staff come up to him and before he can speak, Ron says "I know more than you".
Fuck Menards. They think they OWN you if you work for them. Total piece of shit company to work for. They act like giving you a full time position is akin to winning the lottery. One of the lamest things they do is give you a 10¢ raise every 6 months (only if you pass a quiz.) Oooh, 10¢, thanks a lot fucktards. That's like $3 a week after taxes. Whoa Nelly, what will I possibly do with all that money?
Worked for Menards as well, it really wasn't that bad. The 10 cent raises were silly sure, but every other year there were 50 cent raises too, and the $3 an hour weekend bonus was nice. We even got commission on top of that for some purchases (even if it was pretty convoluted). I'm not saying it is perfect by any means, but if you are talking entry level service industry jobs it really isn't bad.
Demanding more from employers is good for capitalism. Put pressure on companies who don't pay their staff good wages and (ideally) they will follow suit as a reaction to the free market.
Hey astro-glide, I did let my feet do the talking, I don't work there any more. Doesn't mean that they are not a complete piece of shit company to work for.
FUCK MENARDS! They were one of the first companies to require masks and then sell masks at the door to unsuspecting customers. Anyone who uses this fucking mask mandate bullshit to make a buck can go and FUCK THEMSELVES
Just got an e-mail from them the other day bragging about their kicking off a program for "diverse" business owners to pitch them product ideas to sell in stores.
I'm got some non-European ethnicity to me, so I'm planning to call in to see if I'm diverse enough. Unfortunately, the morons making these decisions don't have to answer questions about them, but maybe it'll be someone's red pill.
Hey critical race theory, what are you doing in my 2 x 4s.
Jeez. It is a cancer that spread everywhere.
Anyway that's pretty much defamation. Actionable defamation against a billion dollar company. I hope they get sued into nothingness. Too bad leadership abandoned HR to the left. Pretty dumb fucking move.
I went through an entire fucking bay of 1x2s. I needed 12 to fur out an exterior wall, and I could only find 3 that weren't twisted beyond all get-out.
spez: lol homedepot fag going through the comments and downvoting everyone speaking truth about hd's shit wood
Human Resources are typically the cancer nexus of many companies. Smarter companies have realized they can eliminate most of these people and just have some better written policies for management to follow.
If the cops didn't try to arrest St. Floyd, he wouldn't have swallowed that lethal dose of meth laced with fentanyl and died! So the cops did murder him! See!?
Most likely they hired an outside firm to develop their inclusion initiative, and this is what you get. Even for large companies with inside diversity offices, those offices are largely staffed by people who were brought from the outside with no interaction with existing company culture. All this corporate sponsored BLM nonsense is the result of runaway HR at the corporate level. The top execs all roll their eyes because it is just cost of doing business, but in the long run what it does is create a culture of right think/wrong think and before you know it you are written up because you said "thank you ma'am" to a female presenting xe who identifies as a genderless smooth-front.
That's how all BS corporate training is. Companies might have a "training department" or something, but all they do is buy these "learning modules" from vendors and slap the company logo on them. Sometimes they might even have to hyperlink to company policies or documents. It's paint by numbers.
I'm guessing they (HD) just probably listed NPR on one of their annual approved annual donation lists. Donations already made for the year. I suspect they (NPR) will drop off the list when it is reviewed next year.
Seems like just the other day people thought home depot must be based due to one blue line flag that surely wasn't corporate approved. I miss all the old mom and pop places where the person behind the counter can tell you how to stop your running toilet fast and know where the bolts you need are located.
The people who tried to point this out were shouted down by an insane OP who's mad that he got duped for us all to see. The increased popularity of this site has come with it's own growing pains. Plebs want good boy points without doing any of the work to verify surface level garbage. That's not even considering the click farming that comes and goes in waves. Good thing nothing gets buried here no matter how much dough gets thrown at the digital farmers.
Yeah founders and CEOs and hell, even bottom level employees can all be pro Tump/ pro america. But when these companies are publicly held and have boards and shareholders to appease to, they don't necessarily reflect the views of those running the show as much as those who hold stock / bitch and moan the loudest. What would be fantastic is if any companies that went along with the BLM bullshit that were pro America took any noticeable profits for showcasing that garbage and donated it to Trumps campaign. Mixed feelings on that really as anyone who sells out has lost my business but that doesn't mean you can't make some good come from playing both sides.
Makes sense. I use Home Depot a lot and noticed there's a new wave of younger females that work there now. I thought it was odd considering they probably don't know much about plumbing, electrical or home improvement in general.
Since I drive all around the city for work, I do use their facilities for the occasional number 2 whenever nature calls.
That "college degree" that they mention is from a community college and taught you the information that you should have learned in your inner city crappy public high school.
Young pede here. I worked at THD for about 2 years. Everyone in management and HR were diversity hires and made the workplace toxic with their uneven enforcement of "store policies". Needless to say there was almost no retention. Almost none of the same people who worked there when I was hired was there when I left. Except maybe a few people who had worked there for over 10 years
As far as I can tell, that URL is only accessible on the employee website which appears to be only availible on the company network. It's got all the training, SOP, etc on it. I'd leave too much evidence behind if I pulled the pdf file and sent it to myself. Not my network, and I don't have an admin account, so I can't clean up after myself. That's why I took photos of the screen early in the morning in a dim corner.
This document isn't public info as far as I can tell and I don't know if I'd be in trouble if caught distributing "employee resources." The best I can offer are the original photos before I slapped them all together in mobile autodesk for easier viewing.
Near the end they explain how one day The Home Depot called Stanley Tools. They gave them 24 hours to respond lower your prices or we go to China. This was in the 90's. As we all know they closed everything down and moved all manufacturing to China. At the time HD and Lowes sold 80% of hardware in the US.
Same companies only buy interior doors from Jeld-Wen or Masonite where just fined not enough millions for price fixing, all enabled by HD, Lowes, and Menards.
Yeah but in fairness Home Depot's one of the few places you can walking into here in Commiefornia without a mask and that feels pretty based. They also had a blue line flag up in another store that was posted on TDwin.
Corporates are going to corporate and shill for any cause that marketing consultants (liberals no doubt) tell them is polling well. I roll my eyes every June when the rainbow logos all come out but it's not like you can just boycott everything unless you want to live in a cabin in the woods. If I saw an actual Black Lives Matter flag hanging at a Home Depot I'd have words with the store manager, but short of that I'm not the kind of person who believes or even reads anything on most corporate websites.
The goal is that if you make the movement unpopular enough the corporations realize it's not a good deal and find another cause to support instead.
I think there's something to your words of wisdom. I've been a little confused with everyone telling me the CEO is a pro-trump multimillion dollar republican donator.
None of those are murders, Floyd wasn't even manslaughter, he died of overdose while police and paramedics tried to save him, and Breona Taylor was like jumping into a lion's den and complaining that she got shot when animal control tried to shoot the lion and she ran in between them.
Lowe's is arguably way more cucked than Home Depot. Lowe's spewed BLM shit all over their website after Fentanyl Floyd died. Like others have said they most likely hired an outside firm for some HR initiative - founder of Home Depot is based af and is a major Trump supporter. Home Depot also offers a 10% military/veteran discount btw. Not saying this isn't fucked, but something is off given how conservative the original founder is and that the current CEO was on Trump's "Opening the Economy" committee.
Edit: Updated to replace CEO w/founder, current CEO is based as well but founder Bernie Marcus is based af.
Original founder/CEO Bernie Marcus was who I was thinking of originally (edited my post), however Craig Menear was on Trump's "Opening the Country" committee (alongside Bernie) and has a history of donating to Republican candidates.
I avoid home depot, but i dont think lowes is any better.
They aren't. Sometimes I wonder how wellI would do making a patriotic hardware store that helps vets in need as community service.
So I guess "Ace is the place"
Is Ace Hardware based or at least neutral?
I'd say neutral. They were the first advertiser to come back to the Ingraham Angle on Fox back when the pity simp David Hogg told them all to boycott the show.
They responded by saying "Sorry for going on incomplete information, we'll resume advertising but that doesn't mean we endorse the content on the show ..." or something along those lines.
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/ace-hardware/recipients?id=D000042548
My local Ace doesn't require masks, unlike HD and Lowe's. That's good enough for me.
Most of them are franchises. And I am willing to pay a couple bucks more to go to Ace. The last time I was there, I made it very specific to tell the employees that they will be seeing me more often because of the BLM bullshit that home fucko has aligned themselves with.
****Ace is owned by Lowe’s. ****
I may have misspoken. I cannot find anything to confirm this. I was using comments from a conversation with a Lowe’s employee. My apologies.
That explains a lot. Ace has been dumping slow selling inventory so they no longer have what you need when you need it.
Lowe’s doesn’t own Ace. TruValue & Ace merged years ago and I’m pretty sure most of their stores are franchised
They are. I know an Ace owner.
Congrats - good stores, although I don’t have one too close to me
Yeah.
The conversation was back when they were just starting to sell Craftsman tools and I was trying to replace a broken Craftsman socket wrench and he said I probably could find the right socket wrench at Ace which I interpreted as Lowe’s owning Ace.
Wish my local journalists were as conscientious as you
ACE is China.com in physical form, terrible inventory and 90% trash made exclusively for ace in China.
Just shop carefully at all of them.
Quit visiting HD months ago. Ace only now. Haven't missed HD at all.
Haven't bought a burger from McDonalds since pink slime. Once was a reliable customer for them.
And Gillette? Well everyone knows the drill.
"They run a corporate rotation for your weekly hours and you can't go over 39 or you'll get written up" - not entirely true. Source - family member works for lowes. He goes over 39 all the time and the rotation thing got ditched, at least in the 2 stores he's been at.
"They schedule you to make it impossible for you to have another job or life outside of work." - Definitely true. I mean, nothing is impossible but your side hustle better be super flexible.
Lowes' CEO is a black dude. Not sure if it's an affirmative action hire or the guy is good. They're doing everything they can to emulate Home Depot though.
No argument on the inventory / POS being obsolete. It's literally DOS 2.1 or some shit. They can never find things that are supposedly "200 in stock". I will say, I get some pretty sweet deals on non-stock stuff. My relative found a $600 grill that had been in the back for maybe 3 years. $50. Deck chairs? $100 for 6 that were regularly $300/pair. Dented $2000 fridge? $200. His store did away w/ the set rotation about a year ago. They use "Kronos" and then the managers go in an change shit all around anyway.
No argument on the inventory / POS being obsolete. It's literally DOS 2.1 or some shit. They can never find things that are supposedly "200 in stock". I will say, I get some pretty sweet deals on non-stock stuff. My relative found a $600 grill that had been in the back for maybe 3 years. $50. Deck chairs? $100 for 6 that were regularly $300/pair. Dented $2000 fridge? $200. His store did away w/ the set rotation about a year ago. They use "Kronos" and then the managers go in an change shit all around anyway.
Im finding that in general its just better to go to specialty stores that are locally owned. They always have better selection, their staff know their shit, and their prices usually arent that bad. Hell if you buy enough half the time they give you contractor pricing.
Tell me, is anyone at HD or lowes going to be able to tell you if their redwood is FOHC? Will they know what grade sheathing is on the CAT6 cable they sell? Hell, half the time they cant even answer basic questions like "are these fasteners good for exterior applications or will they rust out?"
Fuck em, Im done with them.
That's any big box store. They hire schlubs for $11/hr that don't know shit. It's literally that Parks and Rec scene when Ron Swanson goes into Lowes and the staff come up to him and before he can speak, Ron says "I know more than you".
Fuck Menards. They think they OWN you if you work for them. Total piece of shit company to work for. They act like giving you a full time position is akin to winning the lottery. One of the lamest things they do is give you a 10¢ raise every 6 months (only if you pass a quiz.) Oooh, 10¢, thanks a lot fucktards. That's like $3 a week after taxes. Whoa Nelly, what will I possibly do with all that money?
/rant over
Worked for Menards as well, it really wasn't that bad. The 10 cent raises were silly sure, but every other year there were 50 cent raises too, and the $3 an hour weekend bonus was nice. We even got commission on top of that for some purchases (even if it was pretty convoluted). I'm not saying it is perfect by any means, but if you are talking entry level service industry jobs it really isn't bad.
So go work somewhere else. Stop being a libtard next thing ypu know you will be crying for a $15 min wage!!!
Demanding more from employers is good for capitalism. Put pressure on companies who don't pay their staff good wages and (ideally) they will follow suit as a reaction to the free market.
BS the pressure comes from the market for workers. Anything else is commie talk!
Hey astro-glide, I did let my feet do the talking, I don't work there any more. Doesn't mean that they are not a complete piece of shit company to work for.
One of the first companies to force masks onto everyone entering their store.
Wish i had one, i shop there when im in the midwest.
FUCK MENARDS! They were one of the first companies to require masks and then sell masks at the door to unsuspecting customers. Anyone who uses this fucking mask mandate bullshit to make a buck can go and FUCK THEMSELVES
Yep, no children... so what the fuck is a parent supposed to do crack the window?
Lowes is worse.
Just got an e-mail from them the other day bragging about their kicking off a program for "diverse" business owners to pitch them product ideas to sell in stores.
I’m so sick of “muh diversity”. Its really code for racism against whites.
I'm got some non-European ethnicity to me, so I'm planning to call in to see if I'm diverse enough. Unfortunately, the morons making these decisions don't have to answer questions about them, but maybe it'll be someone's red pill.
I prefer Lowes. Anytime I go to Home Depot there seems to be a lot of, shall we say "plump", suburban soccer moms wearing spandex leggings.
They seem to think tights hold stuff in. They’re wrong.
HOT!!!!
Home Depot CEO is super based, pro-Trump and pro-MAGA. Surprised he lets this fly. Probably doesn't want to rock the boat for economic reasons.
One of the founders, Bernie Marcus, already sparked a boycott of HD back in 2016 with his $7 million donation to Trump.
Bernie Marcus and his co-founder Arthur Blank don't seem to be on the board of Home Depot anymore. The current CEO is Craig Menear.
we should be reaching out to Home Depot leadership, letting them know what they're playing with is the opposite of their fanbase's desires
Ken Langone is based. Liked seeing him on varney.
In other words, he's a pussy.
Hey critical race theory, what are you doing in my 2 x 4s.
Jeez. It is a cancer that spread everywhere.
Anyway that's pretty much defamation. Actionable defamation against a billion dollar company. I hope they get sued into nothingness. Too bad leadership abandoned HR to the left. Pretty dumb fucking move.
I went through an entire fucking bay of 1x2s. I needed 12 to fur out an exterior wall, and I could only find 3 that weren't twisted beyond all get-out.
spez: lol homedepot fag going through the comments and downvoting everyone speaking truth about hd's shit wood
WTH is this nonsense. Muh diversity HR training?
Human Resources are typically the cancer nexus of many companies. Smarter companies have realized they can eliminate most of these people and just have some better written policies for management to follow.
They have whole pages dedicated to "inclusion" and "diversity." Like a god damn library.
Funny thing is, IIRC, the CEO/head is a big Trump supporter.
Bernie Marcus, co-founder of HD along with Arthur Blank, is 90 and a major Trump donor. If you go back and read their story, they used to send wreaths of dead flowers to their competition when they'd open a store in a new market.
Holy fuck that is Ray Kroc levels of savagery.
If the cops didn't try to arrest St. Floyd, he wouldn't have swallowed that lethal dose of meth laced with fentanyl and died! So the cops did murder him! See!?
/s
Most likely they hired an outside firm to develop their inclusion initiative, and this is what you get. Even for large companies with inside diversity offices, those offices are largely staffed by people who were brought from the outside with no interaction with existing company culture. All this corporate sponsored BLM nonsense is the result of runaway HR at the corporate level. The top execs all roll their eyes because it is just cost of doing business, but in the long run what it does is create a culture of right think/wrong think and before you know it you are written up because you said "thank you ma'am" to a female presenting xe who identifies as a genderless smooth-front.
That's how all BS corporate training is. Companies might have a "training department" or something, but all they do is buy these "learning modules" from vendors and slap the company logo on them. Sometimes they might even have to hyperlink to company policies or documents. It's paint by numbers.
would love for Home Depot to put this much effort into educating customers on home improvement
Or putting this much effort into having a decent lumber selection that isn't full of picked over warped turd logs
I'm guessing they (HD) just probably listed NPR on one of their annual approved annual donation lists. Donations already made for the year. I suspect they (NPR) will drop off the list when it is reviewed next year.
Seems like just the other day people thought home depot must be based due to one blue line flag that surely wasn't corporate approved. I miss all the old mom and pop places where the person behind the counter can tell you how to stop your running toilet fast and know where the bolts you need are located.
The people who tried to point this out were shouted down by an insane OP who's mad that he got duped for us all to see. The increased popularity of this site has come with it's own growing pains. Plebs want good boy points without doing any of the work to verify surface level garbage. That's not even considering the click farming that comes and goes in waves. Good thing nothing gets buried here no matter how much dough gets thrown at the digital farmers.
This is very odd. Both of the founders are very pro-Trump.
Yeah founders and CEOs and hell, even bottom level employees can all be pro Tump/ pro america. But when these companies are publicly held and have boards and shareholders to appease to, they don't necessarily reflect the views of those running the show as much as those who hold stock / bitch and moan the loudest. What would be fantastic is if any companies that went along with the BLM bullshit that were pro America took any noticeable profits for showcasing that garbage and donated it to Trumps campaign. Mixed feelings on that really as anyone who sells out has lost my business but that doesn't mean you can't make some good come from playing both sides.
Well I mean they're not totally wrong, he was self-murdered....
Makes sense. I use Home Depot a lot and noticed there's a new wave of younger females that work there now. I thought it was odd considering they probably don't know much about plumbing, electrical or home improvement in general.
Since I drive all around the city for work, I do use their facilities for the occasional number 2 whenever nature calls.
Yep. There must be 4 or 5 young angry lesbians with men's haircuts at my local home depot just in the morning shift alone.
That "college degree" that they mention is from a community college and taught you the information that you should have learned in your inner city crappy public high school.
Wait til the courts... that’s the official information
Young pede here. I worked at THD for about 2 years. Everyone in management and HR were diversity hires and made the workplace toxic with their uneven enforcement of "store policies". Needless to say there was almost no retention. Almost none of the same people who worked there when I was hired was there when I left. Except maybe a few people who had worked there for over 10 years
Is there a source for this ? I would like to see this with my own eyes.
As far as I can tell, that URL is only accessible on the employee website which appears to be only availible on the company network. It's got all the training, SOP, etc on it. I'd leave too much evidence behind if I pulled the pdf file and sent it to myself. Not my network, and I don't have an admin account, so I can't clean up after myself. That's why I took photos of the screen early in the morning in a dim corner.
This document isn't public info as far as I can tell and I don't know if I'd be in trouble if caught distributing "employee resources." The best I can offer are the original photos before I slapped them all together in mobile autodesk for easier viewing.
Hmyah, hmyah, and hmyah.
Thanks for this op. I had no clue. I'll make sure to take my business elsewhere.
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wow. wtf. I'm glad I don't work there anymore.
Home Cheapo
HD owner is based. I would seek more info. He probably didnt know about this
My employer put out the same basic bullshit. Any company whose HR touts diversity & inclusion pushes this crap.
All three are horrible, support your local lumber yards and hardware stores.
The Toolbox of America (it's an hour long and a very good documentary.
Near the end they explain how one day The Home Depot called Stanley Tools. They gave them 24 hours to respond lower your prices or we go to China. This was in the 90's. As we all know they closed everything down and moved all manufacturing to China. At the time HD and Lowes sold 80% of hardware in the US.
Same companies only buy interior doors from Jeld-Wen or Masonite where just fined not enough millions for price fixing, all enabled by HD, Lowes, and Menards.
I could go on for hours.
Yeah but in fairness Home Depot's one of the few places you can walking into here in Commiefornia without a mask and that feels pretty based. They also had a blue line flag up in another store that was posted on TDwin.
Corporates are going to corporate and shill for any cause that marketing consultants (liberals no doubt) tell them is polling well. I roll my eyes every June when the rainbow logos all come out but it's not like you can just boycott everything unless you want to live in a cabin in the woods. If I saw an actual Black Lives Matter flag hanging at a Home Depot I'd have words with the store manager, but short of that I'm not the kind of person who believes or even reads anything on most corporate websites.
The goal is that if you make the movement unpopular enough the corporations realize it's not a good deal and find another cause to support instead.
I think there's something to your words of wisdom. I've been a little confused with everyone telling me the CEO is a pro-trump multimillion dollar republican donator.
I stopped going to home depot when they started building illegal alien pick up centers on their property
just pick them up and drop them off at the ICE station
I'd never heard of that. I'd be interested to look into it.
Oh please
They haven’t had anyone in their community who could actually build anything since John Henry
None of those are murders, Floyd wasn't even manslaughter, he died of overdose while police and paramedics tried to save him, and Breona Taylor was like jumping into a lion's den and complaining that she got shot when animal control tried to shoot the lion and she ran in between them.
Do I have to go to ace hardware now?
We should be supporting small business, but I don't have much in my area. I'll have to settle for Ace. If Ace is openly communist, I'm not aware.
None of those three were murdered
Fuck this boycott shit is really getting hard.
Just go to lowe's they offer a 10% veteran discount. Screw home depot.
Lowe's is arguably way more cucked than Home Depot. Lowe's spewed BLM shit all over their website after Fentanyl Floyd died. Like others have said they most likely hired an outside firm for some HR initiative - founder of Home Depot is based af and is a major Trump supporter. Home Depot also offers a 10% military/veteran discount btw. Not saying this isn't fucked, but something is off given how conservative the original founder is and that the current CEO was on Trump's "Opening the Economy" committee.
Edit: Updated to replace CEO w/founder, current CEO is based as well but founder Bernie Marcus is based af.
Are you refering to the current CEO, Craig?
Original founder/CEO Bernie Marcus was who I was thinking of originally (edited my post), however Craig Menear was on Trump's "Opening the Country" committee (alongside Bernie) and has a history of donating to Republican candidates.