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posted ago by IForgotMyPw +216 / -0

Their previous arguments that Chinavirus spreads through respiratory droplets when a person coughs, talks or sneezes gave them the argument that wearing a mask can protect others.

Since the virus can be entirely airborne it means that no respiratory droplet is needed and that any PPE that isn't approved for biolab use does absolutely nothing. If it lets air in or out it is entirely useless. That would mean plastic dividers and all of those other things do nothing at all.

Am I understanding this correctly?

Source: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-covid-spreads.html

CNN (archived): https://archive.is/5kNMU

Edit: CDC NOW REMOVED THIS AND IS GOING BACK ON IT SAYING THEY POSTED A DRAFT ON ACCIDENT

Their previous arguments that Chinavirus spreads through respiratory droplets when a person coughs, talks or sneezes gave them the argument that wearing a mask can protect others. Since the virus can be entirely airborne it means that no respiratory droplet is needed and that any PPE that isn't approved for biolab use does absolutely nothing. If it lets air in or out it is entirely useless. That would mean plastic dividers and all of those other things do nothing at all. Am I understanding this correctly? Source: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-covid-spreads.html CNN (archived): https://archive.is/5kNMU Edit: CDC NOW REMOVED THIS AND IS GOING BACK ON IT SAYING THEY POSTED A DRAFT ON ACCIDENT
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grndmrshlgando 16 points ago +16 / -0

I thought we proved the masks were worthless months ago? why are people still religiously wearing them like mind slaves? I get it if your work environment mandates it (they shouldn't be), but wearing them outside? and not even "properly"? this is the most bizarre thing I have ever seen in my entire life personally.

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dataonly 6 points ago +6 / -0

You are basically right.

Mask are practically worthless not absolutely worthless.

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johnrambo 5 points ago +5 / -0

That’s what I think about, using facial recognition to see who’s going to be the troublemakers.

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bitpusher 2 points ago +2 / -0

Link to report?

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IForgotMyPw [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/how-covid-spreads.html

Was updated to add information about airborne spread.

Originally read it on a local news site that linked to a CNN article.

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E30_Pepe 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is the U. of Minnesota center for disease research. Has been saying this for months.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2020/04/commentary-masks-all-covid-19-not-based-sound-data

My summary... The new research claiming masks do any good against viruses is flawed. We have a hundred years of actual research showing that masks for viruses don't work at best and harm at worst. Oh, and we're putting in here that we support mask mandates (of the masks that we also say are ineffective) so we don't get protested and we are sponsored by 3m.

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wazzalurker 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm not sure you read this correctly the CDC is still advocating the use of masks

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grndmrshlgando 6 points ago +6 / -0

I don't believe a single thing the CDC says, the UN says, or the WHO. they very clearly have an agenda and are very clearly pushing very clear lies that are proven to be lies which they flip flop back and forth on, yet people keep wearing masks and being terrified of eachother like its the middle ages bubonic plague.

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IForgotMyPw [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not sure what that has to do with anything. Of course the CDC is still asking people to wear a mask. If the virus can be airborne though, wearing a mask is pointless.

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peterstrzoked 4 points ago +4 / -0

That would be true if it was only airborne and never droplets, which I don’t think is what the report is saying.

Let’s say hypothetically, that masks are effective at blocking droplets.

Even if it’s ‘airborne’ 90% of the time then a mask will still be effective 10% of the time (and I don’t think they are saying it’s 90% airborne either). So with these assumptions, masks are still ‘effective.’

No, the reason we shouldn’t be wearing masks is because the idea of healthy people (who aren’t contagious) wearing masks is fucking stupid, and everyone who suggests that this virus is so dangerous and so deadly that you can be walking around spreading it without being sick is a fucking idiot, and should be ridiculed as such.

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peterstrzoked 1 point ago +1 / -0

I’m not a virologist or a microbiologist, but I’m not fucking stupid.

Viral load directly correlates to contagiousness, and in every other virus we deal with, viral load usually correlates to symptoms.

So logically the idea that symptoms should correlate to contagiousness is not only common sense, it is a reasonable assumption based on all the other viruses we’ve dealt with in humanities past.

Now people with mild symptoms (I.e. a slightly runny nose) might be contagious to some degree, but if people would just have some hygiene and wash their hands, unless you are hacking and coughing into the air, you aren’t going to be spreading it.

The idea of coughing and sneezing into your sleeve is also nothing new, and it was considered rude to not “cover your mouth” when coughing or sneezing long before darona.

Everything we have been told has been intentionally exaggerated to try to scare and control us, and these idiotic mask mandates are no different.

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Staatssicherheit 0 points ago +1 / -1

Surgical masks can stop coarse viral particles >5nm more than 20x than without a mask. For fine viral particles <5nm, it is about 3x as much.