If Pence were to die, Trump would be President. Since he has already been President for eight years, he would not be eligible. Biden has never been President. He could not pick Obama for his VP as Obama is no longer eligible to be President if Biden were to die. See how it works?
I do, but it's lame. The 22nd amendment should never have been ratified. It's in direct opposition of the will of the people. If the people vote a president in, they should be in, period. You aren't really free to vote if there are stipulations on it. I get it, they didn't want another president to have 4 terms, but frankly if you're well liked enough to earn those terms, you deserve them.
You made me curious, so I looked up the Amendment:
Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
It looks like Trump can be elected as VP on the ticket. And he can even serve as president if the elected president leaves office.
"[...] But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."
Didn't look at the 12th because I was focused on the 22nd.
But if we look at a careful reading of the 12th, 22nd, and Article 2 (qualifications for presidency):
"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."
It will all come down to the question: does the 22nd Amendment make a 2 term president ineligible for the office, or make that president only ineligible to be elected to the office?
It could be argued either way, but the way the 22nd is phrased leads me towards the latter interpretation.
OK, but, if Blumph resigned, and Pence made Killary his VP, then Pence resigned, Killary could be POTUS, right? Anyone else remember the faggot lefties insisting this would be the 'right' thing for Drumph to do since clearly, it was 'her turn'?
Well, it seems that it only states "elected." Although I believe that the 12th Amendment provides the final clarification: "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of president shall be eligible to that of vice president of the United States"
Unfortunately, the Supreme Court doesn't take on "what if?" cases, and so there is no way to hear a challenge over this issue without electing a president who chose a VP who has already been president twice, and then the opposition party suing over it. And even then, they probably couldn't meet the "actual case or controversy" rule without the president dying and the VP needing to assume office as president. At which point, the VP-becoming-President would be at the mercy of five unelected lifetime-appointed judges, who may or may not decide to rule based on their own political biases (e.g., "like RBG") or blackmail (ahem) or a textual interpretation ("elected") or an "intent" interpretation (no permanent presidents-for-life like Putin).
Nobody can be nominated for VP that doesn’t qualify for President. If Trump has served 2 terms it makes him ineligible for the Presidency and therefore the vice presidency
Trump can't after 8 years.
No. Biden was never the president.
... is what his gravestone will read.
Same with Hillary Clinton.
Bill Clinton's will say President Rapist.
I am not proud to say this but if he has another cranial aneurysm anytime soon I hope he fucking dies .
Biden really doesn't have much longer. It's elder abuse. The Dems might take him out just to try to get the sympathy vote for Harris.
If Pence were to die, Trump would be President. Since he has already been President for eight years, he would not be eligible. Biden has never been President. He could not pick Obama for his VP as Obama is no longer eligible to be President if Biden were to die. See how it works?
I do, but it's lame. The 22nd amendment should never have been ratified. It's in direct opposition of the will of the people. If the people vote a president in, they should be in, period. You aren't really free to vote if there are stipulations on it. I get it, they didn't want another president to have 4 terms, but frankly if you're well liked enough to earn those terms, you deserve them.
2 terms is the life limit, not consecutive. BUT a Pence (Pres) /Trump (VP) ticket could give us another 8 years of the same team
Only if the Trump were not DJT. He can’t be VP after serving eight years.
Edit: Oh wait, I see what you did. But it is a little late in the election season for a switcheroo!
This is not Russia. The term limit for President is cumulative, not consecutive.
And a VP must be eliglble to be the President, or they cannot be selected.
That is legitimate. That's what Reagan/Bush did.
I'm saying Trump cannot be the Vice President, that's all, because if they target Pence, Trump is ineligible after two terms.
You made me curious, so I looked up the Amendment:
Section 1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
It looks like Trump can be elected as VP on the ticket. And he can even serve as president if the elected president leaves office.
Actually it looks like the answer is no.
As someone else in this thread just said, the 12th amendment says no one constitutionally ineligible to be president can run for VP.
"[...] But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."
Didn't look at the 12th because I was focused on the 22nd.
But if we look at a careful reading of the 12th, 22nd, and Article 2 (qualifications for presidency):
"No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."
It will all come down to the question: does the 22nd Amendment make a 2 term president ineligible for the office, or make that president only ineligible to be elected to the office?
It could be argued either way, but the way the 22nd is phrased leads me towards the latter interpretation.
OK, but, if Blumph resigned, and Pence made Killary his VP, then Pence resigned, Killary could be POTUS, right? Anyone else remember the faggot lefties insisting this would be the 'right' thing for Drumph to do since clearly, it was 'her turn'?
But what happens if something happened to Mike Pence? Trump couldn't be the president again. Would the speaker of the house become president?
Well, it seems that it only states "elected." Although I believe that the 12th Amendment provides the final clarification: "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of president shall be eligible to that of vice president of the United States"
As that excerpt is written, he would be able to become president
We need a Supreme Court decision on this.
Unfortunately, the Supreme Court doesn't take on "what if?" cases, and so there is no way to hear a challenge over this issue without electing a president who chose a VP who has already been president twice, and then the opposition party suing over it. And even then, they probably couldn't meet the "actual case or controversy" rule without the president dying and the VP needing to assume office as president. At which point, the VP-becoming-President would be at the mercy of five unelected lifetime-appointed judges, who may or may not decide to rule based on their own political biases (e.g., "like RBG") or blackmail (ahem) or a textual interpretation ("elected") or an "intent" interpretation (no permanent presidents-for-life like Putin).
Nobody can be nominated for VP that doesn’t qualify for President. If Trump has served 2 terms it makes him ineligible for the Presidency and therefore the vice presidency