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PropagandaWizard1984 3 points ago +5 / -2

So Newton's laws of thermodynamics no longer work? It's not that the laws of physics are rewritten, they are just added to and expanded. Newton didn't know about space and time so no laws were made for such things in his era. As we discover new places and new realms we must find new laws of physics that explain and codify these realms. Almost always these new laws must incorporate the old laws to make sense.

One does not defy the laws of physics, this is impossible. Often new theories in physics are checked against past laws to see if they are even possible. Other times new technology circumvents such laws without breaking them.

Take for instance the Alcubieree drive. A space craft engine that can travel at faster than the speed of light, AKA a warp drive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcubierre_drive https://phys.org/news/2017-01-alcubierre-warp.html

The laws of physics clearly state no object can travel faster than the speed of light, the intergalactic speed limit. But the Alcubieree drive uses clever physics to circumvent this rule without breaking it. It makes a warp bubble that encapsulates the ship in a separate section of spacetime. Through some advanced science stuff, read above links, it is able to pull/push the spacetime bubble at faster than the speed of light. However the ship itself, inside the bubble, doesn't break the speed limit.

So you see fren even when it looks like you have broken a law of physics you have not. If you broke it then it would never have been a law in the first place. Often scientists make amazing breakthroughs by following the laws of physics and working backwards to find a loop hole in the law if you will.

I hope this helped shed some light on the interesting and diverse world of physics for you.

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OrenthalJamesObama 3 points ago +3 / -0

I think they should have just inserted “seemingly” before “defy”. Still, appreciate the knowledge, especially about the warp bubble drive. That is exciting news to me.

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PropagandaWizard1984 2 points ago +2 / -0

Don't shit your pants pede but.....NASA is actually putting their big brains to work on this very space drive in hopes of making something big happen.

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a32449240/nasa-warp-drive-space-time/

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lanre 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think it's better to think of these things as approximations. Newton's laws of motion were pretty good approximations for how most observable phenomenon on Earth behaved. However, they break down under certain situations, and to account for those situations, we developed special relativity.

You can see the same behavior with mathematical approximations of electrical circuits. At lower frequencies you can make simplifications and still get accurate answers, whereas at higher frequencies and smaller scales those approximate formulas will give you inaccurate results.

We certainly see a pattern of things defying the known laws of physics, which causes those laws to be rewritten to account for new discoveries and observations.

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PropagandaWizard1984 0 points ago +1 / -1

I am arguing semantics I know, forgive me. But the laws are not rewritten. They are added to. Newtons laws still apply to what they were meant to apply to. Just because Einstein came up with relativity doesn't negate Newtons laws of motion. Relativity simply describes a system that was unknown to Newton thus impossible to incorporate in his work.

Now you seem stuck on relativity and ignore the low hanging fruit, quantum physics. Einstein himself refused to believe in the theory and all the crazy randomness of particles. But decades after his death we have even more proof quantum physics is correct not less. Are Einstein's laws of relativity now void? Of course not. In fact many of his theories were still being proven out decades after his death.

Yes one day there will come a time when science discovers enough and formulates enough that a break through will occur. This break through will seem to "defy the laws of physics". But to do so would destroy the rules our entire world is built upon and is logically impossible. The laws of physics are not broken or rewritten as much as they are added to. Einstein would have no relativity if it were not for Newton, Hawking would not be able to speak on black holes if not for Einstein, and some future physicist will need to stand on all their bodies of work to make their discoveries. This is the very nature of science and most importantly physics.

Not a single one of Newton's laws of motion have been repealed. They all still work in the context from which they were formed. Of course they might act differently and preform differently in environments they were never intended to operate. That would be like expecting a helicopter made to fly on Earth to work perfectly on Venus. It's silly.

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FireannDireach 1 point ago +1 / -0

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Azimov's third law. It's perception and perspective.

If this new fighter jet pops out zipping around like the tic-tac video, then we're looking at tech that might as well be magic to us, because we can't explain it. Much like a lot, if not most of our current tech would be literal magic to Isaac.

(I'm not against the new jets behaving like the tic-tacs, but most likely it will be behavior that known science can explain - if it's not classified.)

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PropagandaWizard1984 2 points ago +2 / -0

Physics is real life magic or as close as we humans will ever get.

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niceguymcfriendly 2 points ago +2 / -0

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VelveetaJohnson 1 point ago +1 / -0

It ain’t like dusting crops, kid.