Be Me, 20 years old. Psych Major. Rocking the blue hair (and would totally do it again, fyi....)
Get red pilled after the election in 2016 (I didn’t vote.) Lurk on the Donald, start seeing the bullshit the mainstream media censors Get somewhat alienated by very well meaning but brainwashed loved ones. You know, the ones who honestly want the best for humanity and have been brainwashed by the commies. Obtain Trauma. Go to counseling, etc to try to process/bury feelings about this. Stuff them deep down and try to move on.
Be Me in 2020. 24. The world is on fire. Person in my life gets red pilled. Person starts sending me red-pilly stuff. Feelings re-surface. See how badly America looks like it’s falling to globalism and communism
Fuck it. See you fuckers in November.
I don’t believe in pushing dumbass teens with a baby. It’s a terrible idea for everybody involved.
Sometimes it’s better for the child not to exist. There are children abused, abandoned or neglected because their parents resent them.
some day in the future you will realize how incredibly incorrect this statement is.
Some day in the future abortion will be as appalling as slavery is now. I can see both sides but could never be convinced that murdering an innocent baby is ever the right choice. We should protect the innocent and defenseless.
Nah....how do you think we get abused, neglected kids? Kids who will never take care of themselves because of birth defects?
We were college students. We had no stable life and I would’ve resented the child.
With respect, I am in my 50's, mom had me at 17. If you are comfortable and firm in your belief that you would have resented the baby... then I would suggest more naval gazing.
i'm not judging you and your decision. i'm just saying there is almost no situation where death- or more accurately never existing- is preferable to life and having existed. being resented by your parents and abused is much better than never existing and immediate death in the womb.
at worst it's the difference between an 18 year sentence (living with parents that suck and abuse you) and the death penalty. nobody would chose the death penalty if those are the options.
Tell that to my son who is around your age, he was born when I was a teen.
Good that it worked out for you guys. You made a difference decision than I did.
There are loving parents ready and waiting for that child. My friends have adopted in China and Central America because of the waiting lists here. Shouldn't a pregnant teen know all of the available choices?
Here's the rub, do you really think someone who is considering abortion would risk stretchmarks and take a baby to full term?
Spoiler alert: she wouldn’t risk any of the complications pregnancy brings, including the possibility of her vagina ripping into her anus (yes, it does happen.)
How cute, you are still here even though the conversation no longer involves you. I am sure almost everyone here knows about the complications in pregnancies and delivery. Hot tip, vaginal massage from the husband greatly reduces the chance of blowing out your cooch on the big B day
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My take is that abortion, early on, should be legal, but that we should do something very clever to make abortion much less common: match abortion and adoption demand. This is easy to do: setup a fixed pile of cash to be used to induce abortion clinics to match customers with an adoption agency. Because the pile of cash would be fixed and slightly less than what is needed to match all adoption demand every year, this would not cause women to get pregnant on purpose to earn money. Also, the clinics would be the ones who'd have to negotiate with the pregnant women and adoption agencies. The critical fact here is that abortion and adoption demand in the U.S. are very similar!
How about just having them watch an abortion before having one? Seeing how brutal it is would change most people's minds!
We could apply that same logic to slaughterhouse footage. Then everybody would go vegan.
Eh, maybe for some. I wouldn't really enjoy watching animals get killed but I could watch animals being killed 100 times before watching one person get killed or baby aborted.
I could easily be a vegan if I had to cook for myself because messing with meat is gross.
At least you can have an open conversation here!
You sound like you want to push your moral beliefs on others. Why do you care what others do with their lives and that future child? If you want to remove the public option you create a reality which will have more health issues due to illegal abortions. This is fact. You know banning abortions creates a society in which illegal abortions are prevalent. You also force your moral belief system on another free human. What makes you the imperial enforcer of whatever moral belief system you adhere to? You should understand humans are sexual by nature and if you choose to suppress your impulses because of your moral belief system that is fine. If you want to oppress others lifestyles. I.e. sexually active, promiscuous, now you're a moral fanatic oppressing others in a free society, having a negative effect on people's freedoms and situations. Finally, raising a child is extremely difficult and if someone decides for whatever reason that they do not want to face the consequences of their promiscuity then so be it. Safe 3 to 4 month professionally assisted abortions should be available to people. It may be amoral in your view. But your feelings on abortion is not looked down upon as badly by enough people in enough places. If your beliefs had the support it needed it would have the ability to change the law.
Don't force your moral code and belief system on others.
My comfort is more important than the fetus I aborted.
Your point?
Medical science provides the option and again your moral belief system doesn't entitle you to oppress others. It's really that simple.
Feel free to gain the support you need to ban abortions in society then force society to pay for the consequences of your oppression both the health factors for the mother and the life of an unwanted child. Makes sense. You'll likely never have the support you need anyways.
For me, it's because I fervently believe that ALL human life is sacred. It's not about somehow taking away the "rights of the pregnant woman", but about fiercely protecting the life of her living child.
Protect it and raise it then, bud. If that child isn't wanted by either parent then the pregnancy shouldn't be taken to term.
People have the right to choose how they live their life. If they want to have 12 abortions then they can have 12 abortions.
No one has made a case yet why they should be allowed to force another person to raise a child. BuT aLl LyFe iS sAcRed. No life is sacred. We are all born to die. Anyone, anytime, anywhere. Some die sooner than others because they were created by shitty people. How it goes.
This is 100% lie. My Mom told me about this as Roe v Wade happened. She was WRONG. It wasn't her fault, kinda; MSM was a thing then too. They lied. She bought it.
There are 0 facts facts to back up this myth you propagate.
I'll check it out to be better informed but I'm not changing my mind on abortion. If people want to terminate they should have a safe medical option to terminate. If you don't want the government funding that type of procedure I can get on board with that.
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