The SC can issue nationwide guidance, issues like this is the reason the court exists. Need to get it in front of the court immediately before permanent damage is done to elections.
Then once we do -- we win -- they will claim that Trump is packing the courts with his nominees not even waiting for RBG to die and he's a dictator and taking over the elections. Then their retarded sycophants will just go along with it.
Regardless of how unethical they are -- they will just blame Trump and turn it into a way to gain energy.
The Democrats used ballot harvesting to steal many elections nationwide in 2018. I can't believe that they are going to get away with doing this shit again during a presidential election. This is election fraud.
Every single eligible Trump supporter has to register and get out and vote. If it's a close race and Trump is ahead, the evil doers are going to bring out all those late ballots and demand they be counted. They did it in Seattle. Kamasutra Sowhat was losing her city council seat most of the day. I believe that at one point she even came close to conceding. But Lo and Behold, they found ballots that had not been counted. And slowly but surely the votes went for Kamasutra, and she eventually won the race.
late ballots as long as postmarks are day of election are OK by me. Its simply a matter of counting.
HARVESTING IS NOT FUCKING OK
NV legalized it, to join CA - PA actually upheld that it is NOT legal (and not allowed). I saw reports that MI OKd it but havent seen a source that confirms officially, including the language of any law. Also looking for that here for NC....
There need to be safeguards in place so that whenever election officials go to some place to look at boxes, that representatives from both parties are present with videos running so that the dems can't just say "We found these 100 boxes of ballots". It's not perfect, but shit is getting to close to the wire. There must be safeguards. Think of others.
I have no idea what the rationale is for these "after election day" ballot acceptances.
Two points beyond the above question:
the "ballot harvesting" mentioned here is only harvesting in the sense of ballot collection boxes. I believe those ballots still require signature matching security and possibly security info only the voter should know, possibly a witness also. I believe this ballot collection boxes thing has been a thing all over for a while. For ME, the harvesting as its allowed in CA and NV is the one that CANNOT be allowed, where there is literally NO security required. So we should dig into this "ballot collection box" issue and see what security safeguards are or are not present.
Seriously, WHY cant anyone who even needs to use a ballot collection box also observe the day of election deadline? What is the fucking reasoning by the opposition? What possible excuse could even make any sense?
The signature matching is another Democrat fraud pathway. The signatures are matched to what is on file in the voter registration, which shows party registration as well. Republican signatures are routinely flagged for not matching while Democrat signatures get accepted even if they don't match. The Democrats here in Oregon have been doing this for decades with our vote by mail system.
typically in that system both parties have "observers" who have to concur on a sig mismatch in order for it to be put in the "contested" pile and that pile is kicked up to a next-level manual review.
I know it isnt perfect, but it is a level of security, anyway. Does it have holes? of course. But at least having security measures is light years ahead of what AB4 codifies, for example. That law makes voting essentially the honor system (by a party with zero honor).
We have to pick our battles. We can counter the sig match fraud attempts by just having more observers and poll workers - the amount of fraud that slips thru if we staff enough will be at a low enough level it wont matter. But we CANT counter stuff like AB4. Those measures have to be stopped by courts, and in the case of a state supreme court being in on it, like in CA and NV because they are de facto one party states, the only recourse is SCOTUS.
You are correct that a second person has to concur with a signature mismatch, but here in Oregon at least there is no provision for both parties to be represented, so you generally have a team of Democrats working together doing the fraud.
I personally know several Republicans that have had their ballots rejected due to signature mismatch. The mismatch rejections are a smaller issue though compared to the obviously mismatched signatures they they accept from registered Democrats. There is no one double checking those, and that enables them to harvest ballots from trash cans and other sources, fill them out straight Democrat, and send them in.
The Democrat here have had decades to perfect their fraud techniques with vote by mail, and now they will be doing it across the country.
"here in Oregon at least there is no provision for both parties to be represented,"
that will be a state by state election commission issue. Good example though of how the lefty states are already subverting the entire US Constitution on every level, and have been for many years. This is why blue states get bluer, they lock that shit down. Then move on like locusts and infect red states.
Remember when NC used to be a solid bastion of southern, conservative values? Then, like everywhere else, the urban area destroyed all history and society and reshaped it into a socialist utopia.
President Trump already has won. You think they didn't cheat in 2016?? Oh they did but lost . haha Trust your President. He had 3 years to prepare for this and they doing exactly what President Trump pushed them to do. So relax and VOTE. Enjoy the show.
Don’t give them any ideas. They’ll be “magically finding Biden votes” from then till Christmas. “Amazing! Biden wins with 485 million votes! The people wanted him all along.”
They do it in California and flipped many representatives days after the election was over. Some republicans were so far ahead that the race was called...stay tuned a week or so and democrat votes had a statistically impossible comeback. Worked so well, let’s do it in other states.
To make all you PEDES feel better .. This is what more than likely will happen in at least two of these States if not all three.
"Republican legislative leaders in Pennsylvania said in a court filing on Tuesday they plan to ask the U.S. Supreme Court to overrule the state Supreme Court's decision."
https://news.trust.org/item/20200923030429-ymtim/
Did you think President Trump wasn't expecting the Dems to do this?? haha Why did you think President Trump and the Senate Republicans are going to RAM through this Supreme Court pick before the electiions ?? 4 D CHESS!!! I have a feeling Justice Roberts will be activated soon when the time is right.
and the election is as good of time as any. We're COVERED PEDES RELAX VOTE AND ENJOY THE SHOW. But feel free to call your local REP In these states and let them know how you feel!!! But Come NOV 2020 President Trump wins in a landslide victory and it's nothing anybody can do about it..
I know you guys and gals don;t like to hear this BUT TRUST YOUR PRESIDENT. There isn't anything happening that he didn't expect. What you're seeing now is for your benefit because some people in this country don't realize how corrupt the DEMS are so they are being shown now before President Trump takes them down. President Trump wins NOV 2020 in a landslide victory and nothing can stop it. Just call your rep and complain. Protest if you feel like you should but GET OUT VOTE THEN TRUST YOUR PRESIDENT.. President Trump didn't win 2016 by LUCK, it was a well planned out military Strategy. 2020 Elections will be very enjoyable for us PEDES and after the elections President Trump will ask all you again "are you tired of winning yet? ". you all will see!!!
Don't worry PEDES just call your representive in these States and complain. but President Trump has counter measures in place. With RGB GONE this won't matter all it will mean is the Dems will claim President Trump took way your right to vote because mail in ballots were not all counted. haha "They mean the fake ones"
And whats more, we voted on a voter ID referendum in 2018, which passed, got vetoed, and then overridden into law. The courts tried to strike it down, so it was not in effect for the primaries. Now a court just ruled it constitutional, BUT HELD IT UP PENDING OTHER LEGAL CHALLENGES, so it will not be in effect in November.
I just moved to NC to get away from this shit. Please don't let NC become NY
The Bitch Senator Jeff Jackson is a Reddit hero and he was working the virus narrative like a champ in the spring. This has all been set up for months.
They're not even trying to hide it any more..
POTUS needs to executive order to reverse this, stop this.
There was nothing wrong with absentee ballots postmarked BY or ON ELECTION DAY
There is nothing anyone on the federal level can do. Each state holds their own elections. Only option is for the party to sue and seek an injunction.
The SC can issue nationwide guidance, issues like this is the reason the court exists. Need to get it in front of the court immediately before permanent damage is done to elections.
Then once we do -- we win -- they will claim that Trump is packing the courts with his nominees not even waiting for RBG to die and he's a dictator and taking over the elections. Then their retarded sycophants will just go along with it.
Regardless of how unethical they are -- they will just blame Trump and turn it into a way to gain energy.
eh, lefty states will then intentionally destroy massive numbers of Trump votes.
This is how CA Democrats stole elections in Southern California. Fuck this.
The Democrats used ballot harvesting to steal many elections nationwide in 2018. I can't believe that they are going to get away with doing this shit again during a presidential election. This is election fraud.
Every single eligible Trump supporter has to register and get out and vote. If it's a close race and Trump is ahead, the evil doers are going to bring out all those late ballots and demand they be counted. They did it in Seattle. Kamasutra Sowhat was losing her city council seat most of the day. I believe that at one point she even came close to conceding. But Lo and Behold, they found ballots that had not been counted. And slowly but surely the votes went for Kamasutra, and she eventually won the race.
Roy Cooper is the worst kind too. He’s a low life pos. People in NC HATE him.
He didn’t take over in a coup...
This is the way they cheat every time.
And the GOP cucks out every time.
Got to stop...THIS.
Always liked someone who looked on the bright side...
Need emergency appeal to Supreme Court.
So they're stealing it NOW from right under our noses. These 'legal' applications have been left for as late as possible.
That's why they had to prolong the shutdowns theough November,which also is the start of cold and flu season. How convenient.
late ballots as long as postmarks are day of election are OK by me. Its simply a matter of counting.
HARVESTING IS NOT FUCKING OK
NV legalized it, to join CA - PA actually upheld that it is NOT legal (and not allowed). I saw reports that MI OKd it but havent seen a source that confirms officially, including the language of any law. Also looking for that here for NC....
Source (beyond GP)?
All ballots should be solicited. Otherwise, no way to control what happens with them.
What’s wrong with getting ballots sent to every single address you’ve lived at the last 20 years??
Come on man!!!
If you're doing a mail in ballot, you can do it so it gets counted before Nov 3rd.
There need to be safeguards in place so that whenever election officials go to some place to look at boxes, that representatives from both parties are present with videos running so that the dems can't just say "We found these 100 boxes of ballots". It's not perfect, but shit is getting to close to the wire. There must be safeguards. Think of others.
In Mexico you need to register your fingerprint to vote. We should be at least as safe as Mexico.
I have no idea what the rationale is for these "after election day" ballot acceptances.
Two points beyond the above question:
the "ballot harvesting" mentioned here is only harvesting in the sense of ballot collection boxes. I believe those ballots still require signature matching security and possibly security info only the voter should know, possibly a witness also. I believe this ballot collection boxes thing has been a thing all over for a while. For ME, the harvesting as its allowed in CA and NV is the one that CANNOT be allowed, where there is literally NO security required. So we should dig into this "ballot collection box" issue and see what security safeguards are or are not present.
Seriously, WHY cant anyone who even needs to use a ballot collection box also observe the day of election deadline? What is the fucking reasoning by the opposition? What possible excuse could even make any sense?
The signature matching is another Democrat fraud pathway. The signatures are matched to what is on file in the voter registration, which shows party registration as well. Republican signatures are routinely flagged for not matching while Democrat signatures get accepted even if they don't match. The Democrats here in Oregon have been doing this for decades with our vote by mail system.
typically in that system both parties have "observers" who have to concur on a sig mismatch in order for it to be put in the "contested" pile and that pile is kicked up to a next-level manual review.
I know it isnt perfect, but it is a level of security, anyway. Does it have holes? of course. But at least having security measures is light years ahead of what AB4 codifies, for example. That law makes voting essentially the honor system (by a party with zero honor).
We have to pick our battles. We can counter the sig match fraud attempts by just having more observers and poll workers - the amount of fraud that slips thru if we staff enough will be at a low enough level it wont matter. But we CANT counter stuff like AB4. Those measures have to be stopped by courts, and in the case of a state supreme court being in on it, like in CA and NV because they are de facto one party states, the only recourse is SCOTUS.
You are correct that a second person has to concur with a signature mismatch, but here in Oregon at least there is no provision for both parties to be represented, so you generally have a team of Democrats working together doing the fraud.
I personally know several Republicans that have had their ballots rejected due to signature mismatch. The mismatch rejections are a smaller issue though compared to the obviously mismatched signatures they they accept from registered Democrats. There is no one double checking those, and that enables them to harvest ballots from trash cans and other sources, fill them out straight Democrat, and send them in.
The Democrat here have had decades to perfect their fraud techniques with vote by mail, and now they will be doing it across the country.
that will be a state by state election commission issue. Good example though of how the lefty states are already subverting the entire US Constitution on every level, and have been for many years. This is why blue states get bluer, they lock that shit down. Then move on like locusts and infect red states.
You make great points, though.
You sound surprised...
Remember when NC used to be a solid bastion of southern, conservative values? Then, like everywhere else, the urban area destroyed all history and society and reshaped it into a socialist utopia.
Damn it. Time to call my state senator in the morning. Isn’t this their jurisdiction per the constitution?
Told you all, they have a plan and will not allow trump to win again
President Trump already has won. You think they didn't cheat in 2016?? Oh they did but lost . haha Trust your President. He had 3 years to prepare for this and they doing exactly what President Trump pushed them to do. So relax and VOTE. Enjoy the show.
Why 9 days? Why not 19 days? or 90? Makes no sense. Fucking assholes.
Don’t give them any ideas. They’ll be “magically finding Biden votes” from then till Christmas. “Amazing! Biden wins with 485 million votes! The people wanted him all along.”
They do it in California and flipped many representatives days after the election was over. Some republicans were so far ahead that the race was called...stay tuned a week or so and democrat votes had a statistically impossible comeback. Worked so well, let’s do it in other states.
If you are too fucking retarded to get your vote in on time you don't deserve your vote to count.
Going to lose all these states. And the election.
To make all you PEDES feel better .. This is what more than likely will happen in at least two of these States if not all three.
"Republican legislative leaders in Pennsylvania said in a court filing on Tuesday they plan to ask the U.S. Supreme Court to overrule the state Supreme Court's decision." https://news.trust.org/item/20200923030429-ymtim/
Did you think President Trump wasn't expecting the Dems to do this?? haha Why did you think President Trump and the Senate Republicans are going to RAM through this Supreme Court pick before the electiions ?? 4 D CHESS!!! I have a feeling Justice Roberts will be activated soon when the time is right. and the election is as good of time as any. We're COVERED PEDES RELAX VOTE AND ENJOY THE SHOW. But feel free to call your local REP In these states and let them know how you feel!!! But Come NOV 2020 President Trump wins in a landslide victory and it's nothing anybody can do about it..
You are assuming scotus will have time to take up all these cases. Unlikely. We will be lucky to even have our new Justice in before the election.
I know you guys and gals don;t like to hear this BUT TRUST YOUR PRESIDENT. There isn't anything happening that he didn't expect. What you're seeing now is for your benefit because some people in this country don't realize how corrupt the DEMS are so they are being shown now before President Trump takes them down. President Trump wins NOV 2020 in a landslide victory and nothing can stop it. Just call your rep and complain. Protest if you feel like you should but GET OUT VOTE THEN TRUST YOUR PRESIDENT.. President Trump didn't win 2016 by LUCK, it was a well planned out military Strategy. 2020 Elections will be very enjoyable for us PEDES and after the elections President Trump will ask all you again "are you tired of winning yet? ". you all will see!!!
Don't worry PEDES just call your representive in these States and complain. but President Trump has counter measures in place. With RGB GONE this won't matter all it will mean is the Dems will claim President Trump took way your right to vote because mail in ballots were not all counted. haha "They mean the fake ones"
And whats more, we voted on a voter ID referendum in 2018, which passed, got vetoed, and then overridden into law. The courts tried to strike it down, so it was not in effect for the primaries. Now a court just ruled it constitutional, BUT HELD IT UP PENDING OTHER LEGAL CHALLENGES, so it will not be in effect in November.
I just moved to NC to get away from this shit. Please don't let NC become NY
The other states should refuse to recognize their results
The Bitch Senator Jeff Jackson is a Reddit hero and he was working the virus narrative like a champ in the spring. This has all been set up for months.
Calm down, Im fairly sure this is the more secure absentee ballot not mail in ballot.
sauce: https://s3.amazonaws.com/dl.ncsbe.gov/sboe/numbermemo/2020/Numbered%20Memo%202020-19_Absentee%20Deficiencies.pdf
they are not the same. https://www.dictionary.com/e/absentee-ballot-vs-mail-in-ballot/
These ballots must be requested by supplying personal information such as SSN and drivers license number. https://www.ncsbe.gov/voting/vote-mail/faqs-voting-mail-north-carolina-2020#when-will-i-receive-my-absentee-ballot-for-the-2020-general-election
This is in contrast to California who will just auto send ballots. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2020/5/9/21252974/california-voter-mail-covid-19-november-2020-election
The fight is elsewhere pedes...