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eagleheart585 3 points ago +4 / -1

If you support abortion but also support enforcement of a mask wearing mandate than you are a hypocrite. Those two positions are contradictory. Change my mind.

First let me explain why I said "pro-abortion" rather than "pro-choice". If I had instead said pro-choice than my argument is already won because pro-choice means that getting the abortion procedure should be the women's choice and that contradicts with not allowing people to chose whether or not they wear a mask in public. For this conversation, the reason you support abortion is important as are what instances you would not. Because if the same reason you support abortion is overlooked when it comes to a mask mandate, than your logic is inconsistent and that reason is not genuine.

Before you go on telling me that these two situations are different because there is an innocent person who's bodily autonomy is being infringed, I'll need to tell you that these situations are strikingly similar. When the abortion procedure is performed, an innocent person's bodily autonomy is being infringed... an innocent person is being killed. So someone who refuses to wear a mask cannot be more selfish than someone who gets an abortion.

Which brings me to the next similarity: Convenience. While there are people who have medical conditions that prevent them from wearing a mask, the vast majority of mask-refusers do so for the sole purpose of convenience. Likewise, the vast majority of abortions are performed for the purpose of convenience (90%+ and more than half being repeat visitors). So why it is okay for someone to infringe on another persons rights when they inconvenience them in one situation but not the other?

If your argument is that the situations are not the same because you don't acknowledge the life of the baby, than you are going to have to convince me that the baby's life is either insignificant or imaginary. I'm pro-life and that position will not change unless someone provides me scientific evidence disproving it, which you won't because it is an undeniable scientific fact that the baby is a living human organism.

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Italians_Invented_2A -1 points ago +2 / -3

The difference is that you refusing to wear a mask harms another individual.

A mother deciding to abort her fetus is different if you don't consider the fetus to be an individual, or if you consider that individual's life to be dependent on the mother.

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captainlegox 1 point ago +1 / -0

Guess what: people die from colds and the flu every year. Someone gave it to them. It's really not up until now that "harming other individuals" with disease became a justification to mask entire populations. That logic is completely bunk if we apply it to literally any other disease.