That also bothers me about Barnett. Lagoa is also Catholic, but not so dogmatic about pope allegiance, seems more based on faith in a real God rather than based on a man God. Morality bases on adherence to dogma is not true moral conviction. Lagoa shows personal moral conviction in her rulings along with constitutional rigor.
More important than mindless faith to a religious dogma is moral conviction based on right vs. wrong such as valuing life, freedom, and principles upon which our nation was founded. It doesn't even require a belief in God, but having faith in a supreme loving and just being with a hope for after life fosters those values.
To correct myself somewhat, the second pull-quote indicates deferral to "Bishops, teaching in communion with the Roman Pontiff" so it's not just the Pope but possibly Bishop's findings as well.
"[W]e believe that Catholic judges (if they are faithful to the teaching of their church) are morally precluded from enforcing the death penalty. This means that they can neither themselves sentence criminals to death nor enforce jury recommendations of death."
"Bishops, teaching in communion with the Roman Pontiff, are to be respected by all as witnesses to divine and Catholic truth. In matters of faith and morals, the bishops speak in the name of Christ and the faithful are to accept their teaching and adhere to it with a religious assent of soul."
"The moral impossibility of enforcing capital punishment in the first two or three cases (sentencing, enforcing jury recommendations, affirming) is a sufficient reason for recusal under federal law. (p. 306)"
"[T]he principle at stake in capital sentencing is a moral one, not a factual or simply legal one. And the judge is asked to violate it—not to reason from different legal premises to morally unobjectionable conclusions (like Justice Brandeis did in Whitney). There is no way the judge can do his job and obey his conscience. The judge’s conscience tells him to impose a life sentence; federal law directs him to impose death. Because the judge is unable to give the government the judgment to which it is entitled under the law, § 455(b)(1) directs him to disqualify himself. (p. 334)"
She also writes: "Some Catholics draw a more general conclusion from
these particulars-that the Church's teaching is advisory rather than
authoritative. Members are well-advised to consider it, but in the end
they are free to accept or reject it. (p. 345)"
"Catholic judges must answer some complex moral and legal questions in deciding whether to sit in death penalty cases. Sometimes (as with direct appeals of death sentences) the right answers are not obvious. But in a system that effectively leaves the decision up to the judge, these are questions that responsible Catholics must consider seriously.
Judges cannot-nor should they try to-align our legal system with the
Church's moral teaching whenever the two diverge. (p.350)"
To correct myself somewhat, the second pull-quote indicates deferral to "Bishops, teaching in communion with the Roman Pontiff" so it's not just the Pope but possibly Bishop's findings as well.
"[W]e believe that Catholic judges (if they are faithful to the teaching of their church) are morally precluded from enforcing the death penalty. This means that they can neither themselves sentence criminals to death nor enforce jury recommendations of death."
"Bishops, teaching in communion with the Roman Pontiff, are to be respected by all as witnesses to divine and Catholic truth. In matters of faith and morals, the bishops speak in the name of Christ and the faithful are to accept their teaching and adhere to it with a religious assent of soul."
"The moral impossibility of enforcing capital punishment in the first two or three cases (sentencing, enforcing jury recommendations, affirming) is a sufficient reason for recusal under federal law. (p. 306)"
"[T]he principle at stake in capital sentencing is a moral one, not a factual or simply legal one. And the judge is asked to violate it—not to reason from different legal premises to morally unobjectionable conclusions (like Justice Brandeis did in Whitney). There is no way the judge can do his job and obey his conscience. The judge’s conscience tells him to impose a life sentence; federal law directs him to impose death. Because the judge is unable to give the government the judgment to which it is entitled under the law, § 455(b)(1) directs him to disqualify himself. (p. 334)"
Barrett served under Scalia and he was catholic, but separated his beliefs from constitution in rulings . . . Barrett learned this. Lagoa volunteered to work with Joe Biden, a red flag for me.
Any person who says they'll follow the Pope's moral guidance in their rulings, knowing the Pope is a filthy marxist, gets a NO vote from me.
That also bothers me about Barnett. Lagoa is also Catholic, but not so dogmatic about pope allegiance, seems more based on faith in a real God rather than based on a man God. Morality bases on adherence to dogma is not true moral conviction. Lagoa shows personal moral conviction in her rulings along with constitutional rigor.
More important than mindless faith to a religious dogma is moral conviction based on right vs. wrong such as valuing life, freedom, and principles upon which our nation was founded. It doesn't even require a belief in God, but having faith in a supreme loving and just being with a hope for after life fosters those values.
source?
I'll probably be accused of spamming, but I'm just copying my own reply to someone else for convenience:
https://humanevents.com/2019/09/19/amy-coney-barrett-is-not-a-safe-pick-for-the-supreme-court/
led me to her paper: https://scholarship.law.nd.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1523&context=law_faculty_scholarship
To correct myself somewhat, the second pull-quote indicates deferral to "Bishops, teaching in communion with the Roman Pontiff" so it's not just the Pope but possibly Bishop's findings as well.
"[W]e believe that Catholic judges (if they are faithful to the teaching of their church) are morally precluded from enforcing the death penalty. This means that they can neither themselves sentence criminals to death nor enforce jury recommendations of death."
"Bishops, teaching in communion with the Roman Pontiff, are to be respected by all as witnesses to divine and Catholic truth. In matters of faith and morals, the bishops speak in the name of Christ and the faithful are to accept their teaching and adhere to it with a religious assent of soul."
"The moral impossibility of enforcing capital punishment in the first two or three cases (sentencing, enforcing jury recommendations, affirming) is a sufficient reason for recusal under federal law. (p. 306)"
"[T]he principle at stake in capital sentencing is a moral one, not a factual or simply legal one. And the judge is asked to violate it—not to reason from different legal premises to morally unobjectionable conclusions (like Justice Brandeis did in Whitney). There is no way the judge can do his job and obey his conscience. The judge’s conscience tells him to impose a life sentence; federal law directs him to impose death. Because the judge is unable to give the government the judgment to which it is entitled under the law, § 455(b)(1) directs him to disqualify himself. (p. 334)"
She also writes: "Some Catholics draw a more general conclusion from these particulars-that the Church's teaching is advisory rather than authoritative. Members are well-advised to consider it, but in the end they are free to accept or reject it. (p. 345)"
"Catholic judges must answer some complex moral and legal questions in deciding whether to sit in death penalty cases. Sometimes (as with direct appeals of death sentences) the right answers are not obvious. But in a system that effectively leaves the decision up to the judge, these are questions that responsible Catholics must consider seriously. Judges cannot-nor should they try to-align our legal system with the Church's moral teaching whenever the two diverge. (p.350)"
No argument, but I am concerned about her potential need for recusal.
She has made that statement. It is out there. Good luck.
Barrett said that in her confirmation hearing. It’s out there good luck.
I think it was in a paper she coauthored. Still a concern:
https://humanevents.com/2019/09/19/amy-coney-barrett-is-not-a-safe-pick-for-the-supreme-court/
led me to her paper: https://scholarship.law.nd.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1523&context=law_faculty_scholarship
To correct myself somewhat, the second pull-quote indicates deferral to "Bishops, teaching in communion with the Roman Pontiff" so it's not just the Pope but possibly Bishop's findings as well.
"[W]e believe that Catholic judges (if they are faithful to the teaching of their church) are morally precluded from enforcing the death penalty. This means that they can neither themselves sentence criminals to death nor enforce jury recommendations of death."
"Bishops, teaching in communion with the Roman Pontiff, are to be respected by all as witnesses to divine and Catholic truth. In matters of faith and morals, the bishops speak in the name of Christ and the faithful are to accept their teaching and adhere to it with a religious assent of soul."
"The moral impossibility of enforcing capital punishment in the first two or three cases (sentencing, enforcing jury recommendations, affirming) is a sufficient reason for recusal under federal law. (p. 306)"
"[T]he principle at stake in capital sentencing is a moral one, not a factual or simply legal one. And the judge is asked to violate it—not to reason from different legal premises to morally unobjectionable conclusions (like Justice Brandeis did in Whitney). There is no way the judge can do his job and obey his conscience. The judge’s conscience tells him to impose a life sentence; federal law directs him to impose death. Because the judge is unable to give the government the judgment to which it is entitled under the law, § 455(b)(1) directs him to disqualify himself. (p. 334)"
Didn't think so
Do your own fucking leg work. I ain't your bitch, and I am not responsible for curing you of your ignorance.
That task falls on you.
Barrett served under Scalia and he was catholic, but separated his beliefs from constitution in rulings . . . Barrett learned this. Lagoa volunteered to work with Joe Biden, a red flag for me.
Are you talking about Barnett or Lagoa? Both of them are Catholic.
Barnett said that.
You don't have a vote.It's President Trump's call.