“Well it’s lost and only gonna get worse, just accept it and move on (meanwhile I’m gonna ignore all the fraud and illegal voting), yep Commiefornia sure is toast”
If we all had that mentality, we would have Clinton as president right now.
I hear what you're saying and there's a lot of truth to it, but on the other hand, a lot of Jews started fleeing Germany in the early to mid 30s when they saw the writing on the wall. I'm sure many of them were hearing similar things from family and friends about staying and not giving up. I know it's not a perfect comparison, but it's broadly similar in the sense that there is a point where you have to stick a fork in it and enact a tactical retreat or risk losing it all. I don't know if Cali is done or not, but it's definitely at a level where it's hard to blame people for wanting to get out and wash their hands of it.
I absolutely understand why people would leave, you gotta do what’s best for you and your family first. My point is this, the president that we support and vote for wants to make America great again, it’s even his slogan, how can anyone support that goal and at the same time say California will never be great again so might as well give up and go somewhere else. That’s not making America great again, that’s “let’s keep my safe space red state a Republican state and push the Dems out, and fuck those blue states”, that’s not making America great again, giving up on your fellow Americans in blue states is pathetic and cowardly. Make America Great Again won’t be accomplished until all states in this country are great, not just the red states
Totally understand man. I lean towards your point on this. We need to stay and fight as long as we can to fulfill the promise of this movement and save our country. At the same time, I'm keeping a zillow page open for Alaska and South Dakota just in case.
I mean... we’ve been here for 100 years but it’s incredible how difficult it is to get ahead in this hellscape and the mass immigration and voter fraud makes it feel like an absolute impossible uphill climb. Sure maybe it will change in 30 years but the Dems have a supermajority and can do whatever the fuck they want to protect their power. I desperately want to stay and make it better but it’s becoming untenable truly. Do we sacrifice our future and our children’s future for the sake of maybe turning the tide or do we let it rot and burn like a forest fire while our votes are actually counted somewhere that needs them and come back after things are so bad the brainwashed nonmarxist
Dems have no choice but to change?
That’s a quitter and loser mentality, very sad.
“Well it’s lost and only gonna get worse, just accept it and move on (meanwhile I’m gonna ignore all the fraud and illegal voting), yep Commiefornia sure is toast”
If we all had that mentality, we would have Clinton as president right now.
A warrior may retreat. He does not flee.
I hear what you're saying and there's a lot of truth to it, but on the other hand, a lot of Jews started fleeing Germany in the early to mid 30s when they saw the writing on the wall. I'm sure many of them were hearing similar things from family and friends about staying and not giving up. I know it's not a perfect comparison, but it's broadly similar in the sense that there is a point where you have to stick a fork in it and enact a tactical retreat or risk losing it all. I don't know if Cali is done or not, but it's definitely at a level where it's hard to blame people for wanting to get out and wash their hands of it.
I absolutely understand why people would leave, you gotta do what’s best for you and your family first. My point is this, the president that we support and vote for wants to make America great again, it’s even his slogan, how can anyone support that goal and at the same time say California will never be great again so might as well give up and go somewhere else. That’s not making America great again, that’s “let’s keep my safe space red state a Republican state and push the Dems out, and fuck those blue states”, that’s not making America great again, giving up on your fellow Americans in blue states is pathetic and cowardly. Make America Great Again won’t be accomplished until all states in this country are great, not just the red states
Totally understand man. I lean towards your point on this. We need to stay and fight as long as we can to fulfill the promise of this movement and save our country. At the same time, I'm keeping a zillow page open for Alaska and South Dakota just in case.
I mean... we’ve been here for 100 years but it’s incredible how difficult it is to get ahead in this hellscape and the mass immigration and voter fraud makes it feel like an absolute impossible uphill climb. Sure maybe it will change in 30 years but the Dems have a supermajority and can do whatever the fuck they want to protect their power. I desperately want to stay and make it better but it’s becoming untenable truly. Do we sacrifice our future and our children’s future for the sake of maybe turning the tide or do we let it rot and burn like a forest fire while our votes are actually counted somewhere that needs them and come back after things are so bad the brainwashed nonmarxist Dems have no choice but to change?