Ofaggot is the most corrupt president in the history of this country. He and the demonrats still have not accepted the results of the 2016 elections, and they did not peacefully hand over power. (The EXACT bullshit they accuse Trump of)
If the leaked information was classified when leaked then it was illegal however if Obama itself leaked then it could be argued that the information was therefore declassified upon at the moment of disclosure.
if Obama itself leaked then it could be argued that the information was therefore declassified upon at the moment of disclosure.
The President is the custodian of classified on behalf of the people. All authority to classify and declassify is delegated from his office.
For example, the President delegates Original Classification Authority (the ability to set policy) to the Secretary of the Navy, who delegates derived authority to the admirals, who delegate the duty of determining if a particular piece of information meets the qualifications for classification down to individuals producing intelligence materials. SecNav says "Anything derived from RADAR is "Secret" except material pertaining to 'Operation Hunter Snorts All the Cocaine in Croatia" which is "Top Secret", and radar operators mark their reports on what they see as "Secret" unless what they see is Hunter Biden's plane landing in a snowy field in August.
That's true, but the opposing argument is that it remained classified because it had never been declassified prior to release. I had a 3 star on that argument at Pensacola. Believe me, he was mighty unhappy to have an E-5 telling him about his legal choices with the JAG and Inspector General there, (also my former boss, an E-9 who warned him what I was like.) Yeah, good times were had by some.
Considering it wasn't illegal for Hillary to leak classified communications, I don't think it's illegal. People are just acting like it is. I could see in a military setting that is might be grounds for arrest, or an agency policy, but nobody can point to "the law" that was allegedly broken.
It was illegal for HRC to send classified emails over her nongovernment server. Comey cited a long list of how many illegal acts she committed, then concluded by saying she didnt have bad intentions so he was not seeking charges ( a decision not within his 'purview.',)
I understand people call it "illegal", I am trying to get the laws cited in here, so folks can reference them in discussions. Specifically. Just parroting "it's illegal" doesn't make it illegal.
[In each year from 2011 to 2014, the State Department's poor cybersecurity was identified by its inspector general as a 'significant deficiency' that put the department's information at risk.
Another State Department inspector general report revealed that hacking attempts forced Clinton off her private email at one point in 2011.
Then in 2014, the State Department's unclassified email system was breached by hackers with links to Russia. They stole an unspecified number of emails.
The hack was so deep that State's email system had to be cut off from the internet while experts worked to eliminate the infestation.
At least 47 of the emails Clinton turned over to the State Department contain the notation 'B3 CIA PERS/ORG,' which indicates the material referred to CIA personnel or matters related to the agency.
And because both Clinton's server and the State Department systems were vulnerable to hacking, the perpetrators could have those original emails.
Stewart Baker, a Washington lawyer who spent more than three years as an assistant secretary of the Homeland Security Department and is former legal counsel for the National Security Agency, said it is 'entirely plausible ... that foreign intelligence services discovered and rifled Hillary Clinton's server'.
If so, infiltrators would have copies of all her emails - unredacted.
Baker points out another instance where Clinton's server might have been hacked.
A March 2, 2009, email warned against State Department officials using Blackberries. Eric Boswell, assistant secretary of state, says the 'vulnerabilities and risks associated with the use of Blackberries ... considerably outweigh their convenience.'
Nine days later, another email states that Clinton approached Boswell and says she 'gets' the risk.
The email also said: 'Her attention was drawn to the sentence that indicates we (the diplomatic security office officials) have intelligence concerning this vulnerability during her recent trip to Asia.'
Clinton traveled to China, Indonesia, Japan and South Korea in February 2009.]
Dude, the topic of the thread was regarding a post "FBI: leak of Flynn transcript came from Obama White House." State department? Hillary? What are you talking about?
(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information—
(1) concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or
(2) concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or
(3) concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or
(4) obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
(b) As used in subsection (a) of this section—
The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution;
The terms “code,” “cipher,” and “cryptographic system” include in their meanings, in addition to their usual meanings, any method of secret writing and any mechanical or electrical device or method used for the purpose of disguising or concealing the contents, significance, or meanings of communications;
The term “foreign government” includes in its meaning any person or persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any faction, party, department, agency, bureau, or military force of or within a foreign country, or for or on behalf of any government or any person or persons purporting to act as a government within a foreign country, whether or not such government is recognized by the United States;
The term “communication intelligence” means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients;
The term “unauthorized person” means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States.
(c) Nothing in this section shall prohibit the furnishing, upon lawful demand, of information to any regularly constituted committee of the Senate or House of Representatives of the United States of America, or joint committee thereof.
(d)
(1) Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States irrespective of any provision of State law—
(A) any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of such violation; and
(B) any of the person’s property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation.
(2) The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1).
(3) Except as provided in paragraph (4), the provisions of subsections (b), (c), and (e) through (p) of section 413 of the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 (21 U.S.C. 853(b), (c), and (e)–(p)), shall apply to—
(A) property subject to forfeiture under this subsection;
(B) any seizure or disposition of such property; and
(C) any administrative or judicial proceeding in relation to such property,
if not inconsistent with this subsection.
(4) Notwithstanding section 524(c) of title 28, there shall be deposited in the Crime Victims Fund established under section 1402 of the Victims of Crime Act of 1984 (42 U.S.C. 10601) [1] all amounts from the forfeiture of property under this subsection remaining after the payment of expenses for forfeiture and sale authorized by law.
(5) As used in this subsection, the term “State” means any State of the United States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and any territory or possession of the United States.
I don't think you know what the word means. Asking for the law that was broken is not "shilling". If Obama WH leaked Flynn transcript (the twitter post of this thread, which, btw, is not even what Syney Powell was talking about), is not a State department leak, not a foreign government operation/benefit, none of it. I think you're confused.
Obviously, it is illegal to leak classified communications.
Just because people aren’t inclined to look up the precise chapters and sections of the USCA that deal with this to contradict the dumbest person they’ve ever encountered on TD.W doesn’t vindicate your fantasy that Hillary did nothing wrong.
Perjury is illegal (and agents of a government law-enforcement agency lying in court in order to pursue a citizen they knew to be innocent is just about the most egregious example of perjury I can imagine).
A president using the law enforcement and intelligence apparatuses of this country to spy on and railroad the campaign staff of a rival is illegal.
Never mind all the other felonies committed pursuant to these two overarching crimes, among which are these leaks.
Justice is in the interest of these United States; an intentional act of injustice perpetrated under color of law is prejudicial to the interest of these United States.
Well... Where else was it gonna come from...
Big Mike's "boy p****"?
https://i.maga.host/u29Zdpu.gif
Ofaggot is the most corrupt president in the history of this country. He and the demonrats still have not accepted the results of the 2016 elections, and they did not peacefully hand over power. (The EXACT bullshit they accuse Trump of)
What did Obama-Biden know and when did they know it?
*makes popcorn
Powell for FBI director?
Are the leaks even illegal? I hear people on here always asking for justice, but nobody ever shows the law that was broken, if any.
If the leaked information was classified when leaked then it was illegal however if Obama itself leaked then it could be argued that the information was therefore declassified upon at the moment of disclosure.
The President is the custodian of classified on behalf of the people. All authority to classify and declassify is delegated from his office.
For example, the President delegates Original Classification Authority (the ability to set policy) to the Secretary of the Navy, who delegates derived authority to the admirals, who delegate the duty of determining if a particular piece of information meets the qualifications for classification down to individuals producing intelligence materials. SecNav says "Anything derived from RADAR is "Secret" except material pertaining to 'Operation Hunter Snorts All the Cocaine in Croatia" which is "Top Secret", and radar operators mark their reports on what they see as "Secret" unless what they see is Hunter Biden's plane landing in a snowy field in August.
^^^ Really activates the almonds.
That's true, but the opposing argument is that it remained classified because it had never been declassified prior to release. I had a 3 star on that argument at Pensacola. Believe me, he was mighty unhappy to have an E-5 telling him about his legal choices with the JAG and Inspector General there, (also my former boss, an E-9 who warned him what I was like.) Yeah, good times were had by some.
Considering it wasn't illegal for Hillary to leak classified communications, I don't think it's illegal. People are just acting like it is. I could see in a military setting that is might be grounds for arrest, or an agency policy, but nobody can point to "the law" that was allegedly broken.
It was illegal for HRC to send classified emails over her nongovernment server. Comey cited a long list of how many illegal acts she committed, then concluded by saying she didnt have bad intentions so he was not seeking charges ( a decision not within his 'purview.',)
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/798
I understand people call it "illegal", I am trying to get the laws cited in here, so folks can reference them in discussions. Specifically. Just parroting "it's illegal" doesn't make it illegal.
ask "chelsea" manning if leaking is illegal
the answer is that that are two tiers of the justice system
That dude was a service member and his leak compromised US security, there are laws against that. This is not that kind of leak.
Leaking state department emails does compromise US security. Leaking anything classified compromises US security. (That’s why it’s classified...)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3641838/Russia-poised-release-emails-Hillary-Clinton-s-private-server-report-claims.html
[In each year from 2011 to 2014, the State Department's poor cybersecurity was identified by its inspector general as a 'significant deficiency' that put the department's information at risk.
Another State Department inspector general report revealed that hacking attempts forced Clinton off her private email at one point in 2011.
Then in 2014, the State Department's unclassified email system was breached by hackers with links to Russia. They stole an unspecified number of emails.
The hack was so deep that State's email system had to be cut off from the internet while experts worked to eliminate the infestation.
At least 47 of the emails Clinton turned over to the State Department contain the notation 'B3 CIA PERS/ORG,' which indicates the material referred to CIA personnel or matters related to the agency.
And because both Clinton's server and the State Department systems were vulnerable to hacking, the perpetrators could have those original emails.
Stewart Baker, a Washington lawyer who spent more than three years as an assistant secretary of the Homeland Security Department and is former legal counsel for the National Security Agency, said it is 'entirely plausible ... that foreign intelligence services discovered and rifled Hillary Clinton's server'.
If so, infiltrators would have copies of all her emails - unredacted.
Baker points out another instance where Clinton's server might have been hacked.
A March 2, 2009, email warned against State Department officials using Blackberries. Eric Boswell, assistant secretary of state, says the 'vulnerabilities and risks associated with the use of Blackberries ... considerably outweigh their convenience.'
Nine days later, another email states that Clinton approached Boswell and says she 'gets' the risk.
The email also said: 'Her attention was drawn to the sentence that indicates we (the diplomatic security office officials) have intelligence concerning this vulnerability during her recent trip to Asia.'
Clinton traveled to China, Indonesia, Japan and South Korea in February 2009.]
Dude, the topic of the thread was regarding a post "FBI: leak of Flynn transcript came from Obama White House." State department? Hillary? What are you talking about?
Are you a shill? Lol
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/798
(a) Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government to the detriment of the United States any classified information— (1) concerning the nature, preparation, or use of any code, cipher, or cryptographic system of the United States or any foreign government; or (2) concerning the design, construction, use, maintenance, or repair of any device, apparatus, or appliance used or prepared or planned for use by the United States or any foreign government for cryptographic or communication intelligence purposes; or (3) concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States or any foreign government; or (4) obtained by the processes of communication intelligence from the communications of any foreign government, knowing the same to have been obtained by such processes— Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both. (b) As used in subsection (a) of this section— The term “classified information” means information which, at the time of a violation of this section, is, for reasons of national security, specifically designated by a United States Government Agency for limited or restricted dissemination or distribution;
The terms “code,” “cipher,” and “cryptographic system” include in their meanings, in addition to their usual meanings, any method of secret writing and any mechanical or electrical device or method used for the purpose of disguising or concealing the contents, significance, or meanings of communications;
The term “foreign government” includes in its meaning any person or persons acting or purporting to act for or on behalf of any faction, party, department, agency, bureau, or military force of or within a foreign country, or for or on behalf of any government or any person or persons purporting to act as a government within a foreign country, whether or not such government is recognized by the United States;
The term “communication intelligence” means all procedures and methods used in the interception of communications and the obtaining of information from such communications by other than the intended recipients;
The term “unauthorized person” means any person who, or agency which, is not authorized to receive information of the categories set forth in subsection (a) of this section, by the President, or by the head of a department or agency of the United States Government which is expressly designated by the President to engage in communication intelligence activities for the United States.
(c) Nothing in this section shall prohibit the furnishing, upon lawful demand, of information to any regularly constituted committee of the Senate or House of Representatives of the United States of America, or joint committee thereof. (d) (1) Any person convicted of a violation of this section shall forfeit to the United States irrespective of any provision of State law— (A) any property constituting, or derived from, any proceeds the person obtained, directly or indirectly, as the result of such violation; and (B) any of the person’s property used, or intended to be used, in any manner or part, to commit, or to facilitate the commission of, such violation. (2) The court, in imposing sentence on a defendant for a conviction of a violation of this section, shall order that the defendant forfeit to the United States all property described in paragraph (1). (3) Except as provided in paragraph (4), the provisions of subsections (b), (c), and (e) through (p) of section 413 of the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 (21 U.S.C. 853(b), (c), and (e)–(p)), shall apply to— (A) property subject to forfeiture under this subsection; (B) any seizure or disposition of such property; and (C) any administrative or judicial proceeding in relation to such property, if not inconsistent with this subsection. (4) Notwithstanding section 524(c) of title 28, there shall be deposited in the Crime Victims Fund established under section 1402 of the Victims of Crime Act of 1984 (42 U.S.C. 10601) [1] all amounts from the forfeiture of property under this subsection remaining after the payment of expenses for forfeiture and sale authorized by law. (5) As used in this subsection, the term “State” means any State of the United States, the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and any territory or possession of the United States.
"prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government " not relevant in these cases,
Cherry picking shill fails to edit his own quote lmao
Let’s go ahead and cherry pick your quote, shall we?
“or for the benefit of any foreign government”
China, Russia, NK, Iran <—- all benefited
Obvious shill is obvious (and pathetic).
I don't think you know what the word means. Asking for the law that was broken is not "shilling". If Obama WH leaked Flynn transcript (the twitter post of this thread, which, btw, is not even what Syney Powell was talking about), is not a State department leak, not a foreign government operation/benefit, none of it. I think you're confused.
Obviously, it is illegal to leak classified communications.
Just because people aren’t inclined to look up the precise chapters and sections of the USCA that deal with this to contradict the dumbest person they’ve ever encountered on TD.W doesn’t vindicate your fantasy that Hillary did nothing wrong.
Easy on the shill. (Lol)
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/798
So obvious that nobody can provide a law. Only the one against US security, not a political candidate or person of interest in an investigation.
We’re posting the links all over this thread. You’re doing that kind of shilling where you’re pretending that we’re not.
Perjury is illegal (and agents of a government law-enforcement agency lying in court in order to pursue a citizen they knew to be innocent is just about the most egregious example of perjury I can imagine).
A president using the law enforcement and intelligence apparatuses of this country to spy on and railroad the campaign staff of a rival is illegal.
Never mind all the other felonies committed pursuant to these two overarching crimes, among which are these leaks.
So, no law against leaks, got it.
So, move the goalposts and pretend I didn’t just blow you the fuck out. I SWYDT!
This entire thread is about a leak, you didn't cite a law against leaking. What are you smoking?
"in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States or for the benefit of any foreign government" - not relevant here.
Justice is in the interest of these United States; an intentional act of injustice perpetrated under color of law is prejudicial to the interest of these United States.
So is lying, but it's not illegal.
What "it" are you talking about? Flynn's transcript?
If you can't show anyone what law was broken, you can go find it and report it, which was my first request to the OP. Sober up.
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This is why they might be fighting Trump so hard for a second term. They know what's coming and it might be Berry's arrest.
R. Lee Ermey voice: Well, no shit.
Somebody's doing the leaking!