God is vengeful. He is not kind. He wants his children know how terrible life (on earth and eternal life) are like without GOD and Jesus Christ as their savior. We as humans have to experience loss, grief, and sadness to be able to appreciate happiness and joy.
If only a redeemer of some sort had been sent by God to teach the world about God's love and forgiveness. Imagine what it could have been like if God has sent His Son to give up His life and conquer death?
Jesus Himself contradicts what you're saying in Matthew 18:3
"And he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."
David, speaking of the death of his newborn son in II Samuel 12, said this, "I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me." His words there were fit by God to be included as Divinely Inspired Scripture to show us an example that infants and the unborn would be with God in Paradise. Unless you believe David himself was somehow going to limbo after he died? I don't think so.
Also in the book of Jonah chapter 4, God makes a distinction between the adults and unknowing children, telling Jonah that there "are more than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand..." I believe He was showing us that the ability to discern that shows if a person is able to repent and accept the redemption of God, or is unable to.
TLDR: The Bible shows us that Limbo/Original Sin is heresy.
Which is why “original sin” is a heresy. It states that Mary’s mother Anna also had “immaculate conception”. That’s a stretch even for many an early Roman Church theologian, but they went along.
Oh well. Errors aren’t particularly uncommon.
I was a late life convert to Christianity, and that very doctrine had been a stumbling block for me. Imagine my relief at “Latvian Orthodox” (I liked the hats) Catechism to find it wasn’t part of the Church‘s, teaching. I found out all my other main objections were heterodox as well. All my questions were answered. (All because I saw Stephen Meyer destroy Darwin on youtube. It got me thinking...)
I still (unlike most Orthodox) heartily endorse the Protestant reformation. (Despite the “rapture mania”). There wouldn’t be any America without it, we never would have left the Mediterranean.
IC XC NIKA as they say.
Oh, and Christos Anesti!
Don’t forget; Luther sought communion with the Patriarchate. It didn’t work out.
They politely declined to issue a decision for years, but when pressed they were forced by doctrinal differences to decline.
Alas, what could have been...
Catechism was very thorough. I learned a lot of history along with the religion. Highly recommended even if one didn’t ultimately convert.
Umberto Eco wrote a compelling essay on the subject. “No Embryos in Heaven” iirc.
I still disagree with him, but my own understanding of “what is a person” is more inclusive than his. At least my view is as carefully considered as his. I have reasons of my own to wish he was right.
Gotta say though; expectant mothers who miscarry, or have stillbirths, or their newborn suffers crib death, all deserve whatever comfort imagining their babies awaiting them with Jesus in Heaven could provide. Whatever a literary giant of towering intellect and deep insight may tease out of official dogma to bolster his position, he’s never (to my knowledge) been a mother or prospective mother in mourning. I‘d bet lots of ladies who abort never really ever get over it. It’s no small thing, and in their heart of hearts they know it. I’m sorry for anyone suffering so.
I might say also; “the devil” is notoriously adroit at constructing scriptural justifications for clearly wrong actions.
God is a just judge and has mercy on whom He will have mercy but especially to the innocent:
And should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand; and [also] much cattle?
- Jonah 4:11 (KJV)
Emphasis mine.
Those are children God is referring to.
God is deals justly with each person individually such that they have no excuse should they choose not to listen and He so deals to give good things to those that do listen.
Why would she join satanism because she died? She was just looking for a reason to abort babies at will and go to the devil’s side... we’ll she’s already there if she’s a journalist for HuffPo
Plus they are wasting a spot at Arlington that could go to a MOH winner or brave solider who fought for the United States and was loyal to their oath to the US Constitution, unlike her.
I first thought that too, but then I thought it might be one of those crazy promises made during a motivation speech that he is honoring or something, so I am not going to judge.
He only did 3 and it looks like that winded him a little. Methinks this is a very transparent attempt to "insert black person" into her legacy after all of her clerks were honkeys, which sent the left into hysterics.
You only say that because his Magnum Opus in the climax of the story features a gangbang of 6 12 year old boys fucking a 12 year old girl, and he goes into detail FROM HER PERSPECTIVE about how big their penises are and how good it feels.
That's "It" by the way. They cut that scene out of the movie, thank god. Whenever King posts some anti-Trump bullshit I like to respond with this info.
People want to know why I do this, why I write such gross stuff. I like to tell them I have the heart of a small boy... and I keep it in a jar on my desk.
What's annoying about this is that they spent the last 2 years pushing this bullshit about her having a 'personal trainer' and working out, she even lifted weights! This attention whore pretending they somehow did pushups together?
They were keeping her zombie alive with untold millions of dollars and uncountable hours of the world's greatest medical teams, a local hospital for an entire community worth of attention so her body would not technically die so that... ....because some assholes want to be able to abort babies.
But yeah, this asshole still pretending she was a feisty old gal who was still doing pushups with him and holy fuck I hate her now more than ever after seeing this idiot.
I wonder if she died after he made her do pushups lol
seriously, yes I know he's going to become a little darling of the media with cute interviews but I'd love that. I'd love someone to seriously ask just how many 'reps' she was doing.
So... we're expected to believe that a 87 year old severe cancer patient who was going in and out of surgery and chemo for years had a robust physical activity routine?
If you mean rolling her onto her side to avoid bed sores, then okay...
We could all go back and check out the news articles that came out in the weeks leading up to her death claiming she’s ‘better than ever’ and ‘outworking the younger justices’.
More likely, she was completely incoherent for months and just signed papers that her puppet masters told her to.
She was brain dead for a year while they figured out how to handle it. My guess is they waited to let her die until now so they could use it as a campaign issue.
I'd like to believe a lot of this stuff, but then I saw Jay Sekulow on Fox the night she died relaying making arguments before her back in May. Jay's an avid defender of the President, was on his impeachment legal team. I find it hard for him to lie about her mental capacity, and I also find it hard for someone with a mind as sharp as his to be so easily fooled by a double or a...I dunno...AI replacement or something.
Was she THERE like in person? An 87 year old cancer patient on chemo and constant surgeries exposing herself to the dreaded WuFlu? Hard to believe she was there in person.
Probably some kind of promise while she was still alive like doing 1 last set. Still, even with good intentions it's bad optics no matter how harmless you intended it to be.
This doesn't bother me but it reminds me of this article "I Did Ruth Bader Ginsburg's Workout. It Nearly Broke Me" and I swear to god I thought it was a parody or satire of some sort.
Seriously, someone on here joked that she may have thawed out too soon and the cat started to eat it, leaving them no choice but to go ahead and declare her dead.
No public appearances, full cover up at the highest levels - the reality is that President Trump knew she was dead and prepared to play the long game.
Simply put: President Trump knew she was “on the way out” and regardless, he saw them using this chance politically as an opportunist would - to make their base that much more agitated.
I don’t think they’d let a thing like this pass without exploiting it politically...
They don’t have solutions for actual people - just frothing outrage and emotional hyperbole used to extend their upside down world-ending climate change dilemma... because Orange Man wouldn’t DARE follow procedure!
Meanwhile: I think I hear Crazy Nancy screeching at the top of her lungs on a CBS interview for people to not tune into the Biden / Trump debate... cus Trump is a bigot and super divisive .
Unpopular Opinion: Planned Parenthood doing us a favor, can imagine the magnitude of Riots and Violence in general if the black population was in the 20%+?
Only individuals matter. Genocide may objectively have some merits or beneficial side effects but that is exactly what we are dealing with here. Individual Americans should all be given the freedom to live free to choose mental chains - the fact that many choose to give up freedom will never stain the priceless value of our ability to live as American citizens - color be damned.
Yes wearing a mask will prevent germs but go ahead and rub your raw hands on the floor where thousands of people walked. Now you're connected to thousands of pairs of shoes, just think of where they've been (including the bathroom).
If there is any justice in this world, she is down in hell and she is part of the dream team with johnny cochran having to defend hitler with satan as the judge.
She's getting a hell of a lot more ceremony than the millions of aborted human beings she had a part in killing.
If I were a kind God I'd keep sending them back until it takes.
A lot of people did NOT survive the great flood. Just sayin'
A preacher once said that Noah was the most successful preacher: if you didn’t get saved you were damned.
God is vengeful. He is not kind. He wants his children know how terrible life (on earth and eternal life) are like without GOD and Jesus Christ as their savior. We as humans have to experience loss, grief, and sadness to be able to appreciate happiness and joy.
a kind god is different than a just God. ours is kind enough to allow us life but just to punish those who deserve it
According to the doctrine of original sin, no, they’re not.
It would be nice if heretical views such as yours remained absent from this hallowed site.
What on earth do you mean? It’s doctrinal in many Christian denominations.
The doctrine of Original Sin does not apply to unborn babies, according to every Christian denomination.
If only a redeemer of some sort had been sent by God to teach the world about God's love and forgiveness. Imagine what it could have been like if God has sent His Son to give up His life and conquer death?
Jesus Himself contradicts what you're saying in Matthew 18:3
"And he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven."
Limbo of Infants.
((Reposting here for visibility))
David, speaking of the death of his newborn son in II Samuel 12, said this, "I shall go to him, but he shall not return to me." His words there were fit by God to be included as Divinely Inspired Scripture to show us an example that infants and the unborn would be with God in Paradise. Unless you believe David himself was somehow going to limbo after he died? I don't think so.
Also in the book of Jonah chapter 4, God makes a distinction between the adults and unknowing children, telling Jonah that there "are more than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand..." I believe He was showing us that the ability to discern that shows if a person is able to repent and accept the redemption of God, or is unable to.
TLDR: The Bible shows us that Limbo/Original Sin is heresy.
Cool then.
Which is why “original sin” is a heresy. It states that Mary’s mother Anna also had “immaculate conception”. That’s a stretch even for many an early Roman Church theologian, but they went along. Oh well. Errors aren’t particularly uncommon.
I was a late life convert to Christianity, and that very doctrine had been a stumbling block for me. Imagine my relief at “Latvian Orthodox” (I liked the hats) Catechism to find it wasn’t part of the Church‘s, teaching. I found out all my other main objections were heterodox as well. All my questions were answered. (All because I saw Stephen Meyer destroy Darwin on youtube. It got me thinking...)
I still (unlike most Orthodox) heartily endorse the Protestant reformation. (Despite the “rapture mania”). There wouldn’t be any America without it, we never would have left the Mediterranean.
IC XC NIKA as they say.
Oh, and Christos Anesti!
Don’t forget; Luther sought communion with the Patriarchate. It didn’t work out. They politely declined to issue a decision for years, but when pressed they were forced by doctrinal differences to decline. Alas, what could have been...
Catechism was very thorough. I learned a lot of history along with the religion. Highly recommended even if one didn’t ultimately convert.
Is that you Costanza?
Thank you for at least giving me enough credit that the concept of unbaptised infants not going to heaven has been speculated on.
Everyone else seems to think I pulled it out of my ass.
Umberto Eco wrote a compelling essay on the subject. “No Embryos in Heaven” iirc. I still disagree with him, but my own understanding of “what is a person” is more inclusive than his. At least my view is as carefully considered as his. I have reasons of my own to wish he was right.
Gotta say though; expectant mothers who miscarry, or have stillbirths, or their newborn suffers crib death, all deserve whatever comfort imagining their babies awaiting them with Jesus in Heaven could provide. Whatever a literary giant of towering intellect and deep insight may tease out of official dogma to bolster his position, he’s never (to my knowledge) been a mother or prospective mother in mourning. I‘d bet lots of ladies who abort never really ever get over it. It’s no small thing, and in their heart of hearts they know it. I’m sorry for anyone suffering so.
I might say also; “the devil” is notoriously adroit at constructing scriptural justifications for clearly wrong actions.
Discernment is indispensable.
God is a just judge and has mercy on whom He will have mercy but especially to the innocent:
- Jonah 4:11 (KJV)
Emphasis mine.
Those are children God is referring to.
God is deals justly with each person individually such that they have no excuse should they choose not to listen and He so deals to give good things to those that do listen.
I’m sorry but is God asking a question?
Yes.
God is a person and is using a rhetorical question to get Jonah to admit what his hard heart should already know.
Many of us can't even have a funeral for immediate family because of the china virus.
But I guess the virus doesn't attack them like it does us. /s
they never got a first one, either.
Well they are most certainly giving her some kind of memorial at the satanic temple...
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5f6b3565c5b629afbe990c15?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAHp2eblHed3qcjVjHfs2w12TfdklaUxIle1-zYME5v9tBwuEqKTWU-zD6ZOz5-0VMeGSIVMH6k5zZQrpB1nLBgXFvJvftu2u4UmI41ZfCbU5IfypLU47rHGO630PIpj7mhM1UwQDj05TYuuPO3W1gkkZ_6mqytxpwi94Fom9L_Mo
Why would she join satanism because she died? She was just looking for a reason to abort babies at will and go to the devil’s side... we’ll she’s already there if she’s a journalist for HuffPo
Or, giving a lecture?
We should throw her ass in the medical waste bin like a murdered fetus.
Plus they are wasting a spot at Arlington that could go to a MOH winner or brave solider who fought for the United States and was loyal to their oath to the US Constitution, unlike her.
Good point. Why hasn’t the media expressed outrage over this?
Saving it for Pelosi
I first thought that too, but then I thought it might be one of those crazy promises made during a motivation speech that he is honoring or something, so I am not going to judge.
From now on, neither will she.
For real. That's an underrated comment for the record books
BAH GAWD THAT WOMAN HAS A FAMILY (NOT REALLY LOL)! SOMEBODY STOP THE DAMN MATCH!
YEEAAAHHH
KEK
This nigga right here!
Yeah this was her real last wish. Having some black dude work out at the funeral. I guess she had lost her mind after all.
This was actually her tipy top fervent wish.
"When you're pushing up daisies, I'll be doing push ups too!"
You're right. That's totally something the left would say.
That was my thinking, gotta get them gains.
Some half assed push ups too.
Right? My teenage daughter could crank out better pushups
He needs to do pushups with the coffin on his back.
I'm just a 5'2 girl and I've literally done 200 pushups during a workout some days. We got the best upper body strength don't we folks?
Yes we do!
Had a small Puerto Rican in my unit who'd easily hit 100+. Damn body mass to muscle strength ratio. Dude was strong like an ant.
It's terrible form. Elbows so flared out will hurt the shoulders.
What a shitty personal trainer.
My thoughts exactly.
He popped up and strutted off like he just did something really fuckin cool. Lmao.
Now THIS is a guy who knows how to win a debate!
How do we turn RGS's funeral into a punchline? Push-ups during the ceremony on live TV sounds like the way to go. They are so stupid!
Her Personal Trainer was an Attention Horse? Figures..
He only did 3 and it looks like that winded him a little. Methinks this is a very transparent attempt to "insert black person" into her legacy after all of her clerks were honkeys, which sent the left into hysterics.
As a female, he had a lot lower to go down, what a fag.
Those don't even count as push ups. Weak AF.
The only black she ever hired!
Kind of embarrassing to watch TBH.
Haha yep! I was just pondering how strange that made me feel. Embarrassing for sure.
These people aren't like us. We would NEVER do push ups at a funeral.
And even if we did they wouldn’t look like this. Those are WAP. Weak Ass Push-ups
I'd be surprised to find out that guy grew up with a loving father in the home.
That looks like some inappropriate, single ghetto mother, attention-seeking, tasteless BS right there.
I couldn't watch it after reading the title. Just skipped around with it paused to get a cringefree sense of the moment.
I thought he was goi no to get down on one knee and then he started doing push-ups? Wth?
I couldn’t even get past 5 seconds.
Gotta get the guys from Tomb of the Unknown Soldier to run security over there, no more nonsense.
RBG doesn’t deserve those guys.
Well she's able to push up daisies now at least! 👌
Consider who we're talking about here. She's more comparable to a diesel fuel spill site, where nothing-and I mean nothing- grows for years.
More like Pet Cemetery where nothing grows because of the evil.
Steven King is a pedo bt dubs.
You only say that because his Magnum Opus in the climax of the story features a gangbang of 6 12 year old boys fucking a 12 year old girl, and he goes into detail FROM HER PERSPECTIVE about how big their penises are and how good it feels.
That's "It" by the way. They cut that scene out of the movie, thank god. Whenever King posts some anti-Trump bullshit I like to respond with this info.
Normal people don't think up this shit, much less write it down and publish it.
Stephen King
After all that chemo, I'm sure nothing will grow above her for 100 years of so.
Tyrannosaurus Rekt
'Cause he and Ruth were always banging-out sets of fingertip pushups. Shouldn't he be simulating giving her a sponge bath or something?
Pressing the up and down button on her hospital bed?
They call those “sit-ups”
Pretty damn sure he didn't have that close of relationship with her. Subconsciously or not he wants publicity.
Without doubt because he's black, The left will masturbate over this.
What's annoying about this is that they spent the last 2 years pushing this bullshit about her having a 'personal trainer' and working out, she even lifted weights! This attention whore pretending they somehow did pushups together?
They were keeping her zombie alive with untold millions of dollars and uncountable hours of the world's greatest medical teams, a local hospital for an entire community worth of attention so her body would not technically die so that... ....because some assholes want to be able to abort babies.
But yeah, this asshole still pretending she was a feisty old gal who was still doing pushups with him and holy fuck I hate her now more than ever after seeing this idiot.
guy wants the spotlight, lets give it to him - and ask very specific questions and see schedules etc
I wonder if she died after he made her do pushups lol
seriously, yes I know he's going to become a little darling of the media with cute interviews but I'd love that. I'd love someone to seriously ask just how many 'reps' she was doing.
exactly, give this guy the spot light and hes gonna slip up
And she still made about the same number of public appearances as Joe*
(*ok slightly fewer)
What the fuck! 😂😂😂 I thought this was a meme for a second
The Left are a living meme.
The left IS the meme my friend
So... we're expected to believe that a 87 year old severe cancer patient who was going in and out of surgery and chemo for years had a robust physical activity routine?
If you mean rolling her onto her side to avoid bed sores, then okay...
We could all go back and check out the news articles that came out in the weeks leading up to her death claiming she’s ‘better than ever’ and ‘outworking the younger justices’.
More likely, she was completely incoherent for months and just signed papers that her puppet masters told her to.
She was brain dead for a year while they figured out how to handle it. My guess is they waited to let her die until now so they could use it as a campaign issue.
I'd like to believe a lot of this stuff, but then I saw Jay Sekulow on Fox the night she died relaying making arguments before her back in May. Jay's an avid defender of the President, was on his impeachment legal team. I find it hard for him to lie about her mental capacity, and I also find it hard for someone with a mind as sharp as his to be so easily fooled by a double or a...I dunno...AI replacement or something.
Was she THERE like in person? An 87 year old cancer patient on chemo and constant surgeries exposing herself to the dreaded WuFlu? Hard to believe she was there in person.
What the fuck does this even signify? Did he pass out business cards on his way out?
Probably some kind of promise while she was still alive like doing 1 last set. Still, even with good intentions it's bad optics no matter how harmless you intended it to be.
Tryna get laid. Got himself noticed.
The pushups represent how Ginsburg ‘pushed up’ Trump’s Supreme Court appointee timeline by dying in his first term.
Profound, really.
Think of all the white SJW sorority girls who will line up to buy his new work out plan.
They hate exercise. This is the only time they will praise it. Thinking ruth was some crossfit 87 year old.
fucking weirdo. Your "self promotional" vid is a cringe faggot
Is this joe biden challenging rbg to pushups? Listen dead!
Underrated.
The poor SOB that changed her bedpans couldn’t be reached for an appearance. He was busy in pelosi’s driveway.
Nadler pooped himself in her honor the other day.
Username checks out.
I heard he got transferred to Nadler's house.
This doesn't bother me but it reminds me of this article "I Did Ruth Bader Ginsburg's Workout. It Nearly Broke Me" and I swear to god I thought it was a parody or satire of some sort.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/02/rbg-ruth-bader-ginsburg-workout-personal-trainer-elena-kagan-stephen-breyer-214821
Just stick her under some glass like Lenin with the amount of worshipping going on. This is what happens when you only believe in the state.
She deserves to have someone knock over her casket. It's not even a clump of living cells at this point
Not even hair or nails. The chemo killed that off years ago. They should auction her wigs to help fund some more abortions.
So is that her one black employee?
Ginsberg worked out every day during the plan -demic . Yeah right .
When she wasn't riding her Harley around town
I like your take.
What was he trying to teabag her? What was that?
Never go full retard. He went full retard.
oh for fucks sake
"One pushup for every 2 million dead babies, RGB!"
I honestly asked out loud; why is that negro doing push-ups?
When he quit after 3 and strutted I understood. He's retarded
Way to make a somber funeral into a tacky side show.
RBG is being reincarnated but keeps getting killed in the womb.
holy christ on a cracker can these scumfucks be anymore cringe?
Days since last clown world activity: 0
Why no open casket? She ain't in there folks.
Where is her body?
We've been asking this since 2019.
The cat ate it.
Seriously, someone on here joked that she may have thawed out too soon and the cat started to eat it, leaving them no choice but to go ahead and declare her dead.
I thought that was funny.
And plausible.
No public appearances, full cover up at the highest levels - the reality is that President Trump knew she was dead and prepared to play the long game.
Simply put: President Trump knew she was “on the way out” and regardless, he saw them using this chance politically as an opportunist would - to make their base that much more agitated.
I don’t think they’d let a thing like this pass without exploiting it politically...
They don’t have solutions for actual people - just frothing outrage and emotional hyperbole used to extend their upside down world-ending climate change dilemma... because Orange Man wouldn’t DARE follow procedure!
Meanwhile: I think I hear Crazy Nancy screeching at the top of her lungs on a CBS interview for people to not tune into the Biden / Trump debate... cus Trump is a bigot and super divisive .
When you worship Satan, EVERY LIE IS POSSIBLE!
Imagine how much chinavirus people tromped in onto that floor before he stuck his bare hands and diapered face right down by it.
Wow he really showed off his skills with all of three push-ups. Cringe level is over 9000
What? 9000?
Dragon Ball Z reference
lol, yeah. He says it's over 9000 and the other guy says "what? 9000?!"
..... smh I read way too into what you replied lol. I thought you didn’t get the reference and now I just look dumb haha
It's ok, I actually thought as I typed it that it sounded like I was asking what you meant. It's all good, fren.
HAHAHAAHAHA WTF?!
What...what in the absolute fuck...was that shit?
I genuinely don't have a clue about what I'm looking at here. What the fuck's going on pedes?
3 pushups
Why?
My only guess is he is a dumb fuktard and thought he would “honor her” by doing them while her casket was on display and there was a camera rolling.
Ahaha my god what a fucking retard
One of the best threads in a while.
Well that was pretty bizarre.
a well timed heart attack would've made this perfect
This shit is so over the top. Did they do this for Scalia?
Unpopular Opinion: Planned Parenthood doing us a favor, can imagine the magnitude of Riots and Violence in general if the black population was in the 20%+?
Only individuals matter. Genocide may objectively have some merits or beneficial side effects but that is exactly what we are dealing with here. Individual Americans should all be given the freedom to live free to choose mental chains - the fact that many choose to give up freedom will never stain the priceless value of our ability to live as American citizens - color be damned.
Lmao
This is the worst piece of cringe I've ever had the misfortune to see. Fuck.
Not good. I didn't want to hear that last part. It made me sick.
Wonder if she was confronted by the thousands and thousands of aborted souls that she was responsible for and they sent her to eternal damnation.
A Cult of Personality.
In this case, zero personality.
For a personal trainer, that was pretty weak.
3 is all?? no wonder she was so frail.
Weird flex, but OK
Yes wearing a mask will prevent germs but go ahead and rub your raw hands on the floor where thousands of people walked. Now you're connected to thousands of pairs of shoes, just think of where they've been (including the bathroom).
She loved abortion. Why not simulate one now using her corpse and sell her parts to liberals who worship her? She's just a clump of cells now, right?
If there is any justice in this world, she is down in hell and she is part of the dream team with johnny cochran having to defend hitler with satan as the judge.
HA HA . Thats some funny shit there. I hope her gynecologist is not scheduled.