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the_sky_is_falling 86 points ago +92 / -6

Source please.

Half the time the press reports the "pope said this today" and then you read the actual article and find out he either never said it or said something altogether different.

I know this Pope has Marxist leanings but I still would like an actual source for these kinds of articles

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the_sky_is_falling 109 points ago +110 / -1

Easy to pontificate when you have armed personal guards.

Unless he has them removed or orders his security to discard their guns and carry nothing on them, he has no right calling for average people to no longer be armed

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IncredibleMrE1 77 points ago +79 / -2

That hypocritical loser claimed Trump couldn't be Christian because he wanted to build the border wall.

Of course, he said that while sitting on his fat ass in a mini-country that is completely surrounded by a massive border wall.

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the_sky_is_falling 40 points ago +41 / -1

To make the incident even more ironic - The Leonine Walls that surround the Vatican were literally constructed to protect the Pope from raids by Muslim pirates, who sailed up the River Tiber and burnt down St Paul's Outside the Walls and burnt and ransacked Old St Peter's Basilica back in the 800s

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GoatFace -24 points ago +5 / -29

This pope didn't build the vatican

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GoatFace 15 points ago +16 / -1

Who does that remind you of? Maybe hollywood and the elite in the government. Get rid of your guns but we need OUR protection!

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Greg-2012 6 points ago +6 / -0

Easy to pontificate when you have armed personal guards.

That is what everybody is saying, he is getting BTFO on Twitter.

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HuggableBear 1 point ago +1 / -0

Isn't it interesting that the very word we use to indicate some elite talking down tothe peasants is directly derived from the pope?

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MaybeKari -9 points ago +1 / -10

he has no right calling for average people to no longer be armed

That's not what he said. He wasn't talking about the average people being armed. He was addressing the U.N. about military technology, warfare, and nuclear weapons.

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HuggableBear 5 points ago +6 / -1

We need to dismantle the perverse logic that links personal and national security to the possession of weaponry.

Tell me again how he's only talking about the military contractors.

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UpTrump 30 points ago +33 / -3

Does this mean ACB no longer supports the 2a?

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Long_time_lurker 11 points ago +16 / -5

No more than Pedes are bound to follow everything Trump has ever said on Twitter.

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MaybeKari -1 points ago +2 / -3

No, it isn't. This has no bearing on any 2A case. The pope gave an opinion. Catholics have zero obligation to follow it any more than if he said he prefers tiramisu to coffee cake.

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jubyeonin 5 points ago +6 / -1

Kek.

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bjjmike69 3 points ago +4 / -1

As a Catholic, my first thought on this was "ACB might be willing to bend a little on 2a now"

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MaybeKari -5 points ago +2 / -7

Then you're one poorly formed Catholic.

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WitnessMe 3 points ago +5 / -2

Probably

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MaybeKari -3 points ago +1 / -4

No. This has no bearing on any 2A case. The pope gave an opinion. Catholics have zero obligation to follow it any more than if he said he prefers tiramisu to coffee cake.

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Long_time_lurker 21 points ago +22 / -1

Interesting.

Part of the problem with this is that Socialist uprising have literally taken advantage of this sort of thing. If you read about the Khmer Rouge, you'll find out that the king ordered everyone disarmed after the civil war. The Khmer Rouge robbed the transports of seized arms, then took over the disarmed populace with their own guns.

Also, there was that Bible verse where Jesus said to sell your cloak to buy a sword if you had to...

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SisterCovfefe 5 points ago +6 / -1

One would think a Pope from South America would have a different opinion.

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Long_time_lurker 2 points ago +3 / -1

I wonder if we could've gotten one from Cambodia?

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kd5ywa 2 points ago +2 / -0

People will say Jesus was "just" fulfilling prophecy with that bible verse. Don't let that slide. The fact that the disciples had 2 swords in their possession and Jesus didn't preach against it speaks volumes. Now, following that to it's conclusion, people might say "Maybe he did say something about it, it just isn't in the Bible." This is where you have to have 100% trust that the Bible is THE WORD OF GOD. God wouldn't have left something out of the Bible if it was of any lasting importance.

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Long_time_lurker 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not only did they have 2 swords, they used them and cut off the ear of a servant, then Jesus healed that.

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MaybeKari 0 points ago +2 / -2

He wasn't talking about disarming individuals. He was addressing the U.N. about military technology, warfare, and nuclear weapons.

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kd5ywa 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm sorry to see you're agnostic. While the worldly church has failed you, know that God doesn't require you to be a part of any worldly church for salvation.

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TastyWheat 6 points ago +8 / -2

He’s the anti-pope.

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the_sky_is_falling 6 points ago +8 / -2

Anti-Pope? Not yet.

But he is a bad Pope

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BirthHole -6 points ago +4 / -10

Exactly. Reading these comments is eye opening. So many people here comment on what the pope said or believes and all they know is what they read about him in the media that hates Catholicism.

The pope was elevated by all the other cardinals who know him 100000000% better than any one here knows him.

Just like conservatives, the media deliberately take the Pope out-of-context and make deliberate 'liberties' with translation of what he says.

Come on folks..

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HuggableBear 7 points ago +7 / -0

We need to dismantle the perverse logic that links personal and national security to the possession of weaponry.

Seems pretty clear to me.

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MaybeKari -1 points ago +1 / -2

"There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate the Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be."-- Abp. Fulton Sheen