When the "pope" is calling for the dismantling of all private arms ownership... You know you've lost the path
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Remember, just as a note from a Catholic, Catholics ONLY believe the Pope is infallible when speaking on the matter of Church doctrine, not social practices.
He can be wrong on a lot of things.
Also, papal infallibility must be specifically invoked. It has only been used 3 times in history.
Exactly (taking your word on the amount). Most people who despise Catholics don't realize the actual practices we follow. Saying Catholicism is bad because of Francis, is like saying the USA is bad because of Obama.
I thought it was twice (the Immaculate Conception and the Assumption of Mary), but the point remains that it is very rare
The Orthodox are just as pious if not more when it comes to the Mother of God, but they don't force the doctrine of Immaculate Conception and Assumption. It's OK to leave things unanswered.
How?
the idea that human infallibility is a thing that can be invoked makes no theological sense
It is not "human infallibility", rather it is the infallibility of the Vicar of Christ while speaking only from the Chair of Peter.
This still means a human being. The only difference being that they claim to represent apostles.
I would put it a little differently. After the “fall of man” humans are inherently incapable of the righteousness that is necessary to be in God’s presence. The only thing that can redeem man is faith in God’s redemptive plan. “Faith is credited to us as righteousness”. Christ is the redemptive plan revealed. As far as the pope goes (sorry Catholics), the Catholic Church has developed a lot of bad doctrine over the centuries. The Bible does not give any man infallibility.
Haha I’ll agree for the most part also, the idea that Jesus came, scolded and frequently put religious people in their places, so he can influence a different religion, but this time a little different.
Also, the Catholic Church basically killed off a christians for decades. See: Fox’s Book of Martyrs.
And lastly, magically changing the Sabbath without any sound biblical reasoning to do so
Easiest way to sum up Catholicism for beginners. Picture a family:
God is our Dad and we are His adopted children. We disobeyed Him and turned our back on Him. He never turned His back on us. We went so far away from Him that we can't make it back on our own.
He sacrificed Himself in order to give us a path back to Him. No we have the opportunity to unite ourselves with the Father.
Does this help paint a very basic picture, my friend?
It has nothing to do with that human. All it means is the Holy Spirit protects the truth (church doctrine) by not allowing fallible humans to alter it, so that all can see the truth.
I'll explain it all really quickly:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtlsNlEjTUE
Jehovah is Baal. Lucifer is Jesus.
It is the only truth in the Bible. It is hidden in plain sight.
It actually does if you were in any way knowledgeable of theology.
Meh. A theology degree only goes so far I guess?
Feel free to explain how it’s theologically sound
my theology degree doesn’t matter in this conversation simply because of your ‘no u’ argument.
If your idea of ‘it does’ is a conclusion one reaches by interpreting misc. parts of the Bible, I would argue that’s not objective fact.
Right, and the word church, commonly understood in the Bible as referencing a group of people who come together in fellowship. A practice that early Catholicism would kill people for doing (ie reading the Bible for themselves).
In order to get to the Catholic Church from here, one has to make assumptions and interpretations that first off, have no solid historically verifiable lineage, but also takes the entire thing and turns it into something Jesus actively spoke out against.
There were many early churches after Jesus’ resurrection, and theIt goal wasn’t to amass power and control people with a new set of rituals and laws, but to create a network of people connected by thei belief in Christ, but that acts and fellowships in a way that works for them.
If all these churches came from the same starting point, they would have also been a product of what Jesus said to Peter, which is that the foundation for the group of people, ( and groups comprised of people and groups comprised of groups of people, etc) that follow his teachings will come out of the work that Peter will eventually do.
First, while the Pope is not being clear and concise, he is not a Marxist. You really need to not be hyperbolic or attribute false labels.
Also, the early Church fathers recognized the Papacy. The Church is Christ's kingdom here on Earth until He returns. The Kingdom is hierarchical. Just do a little research into the teachings of the doctors of the church like Augustine and Aquinas, also the early church martyrs, and you will see the Catholic Church.
Please review all literature from the ecumenical councils to understand the position the Pope already had during the ancient Early Church Fathers time when there was just one Catholic Church.
Catholicism didn't give birth to that, people who separated gave birth to that. It is almost like a man divorced a woman, married another and had kids, then blaming the divorced woman for those kids.
Yeah, friend, just do what I do and pray for guidance to the truth and pray for me too!
(Spoiler Alert: Praying for the truth will lead you too Catholicism though ;) haha)
Don't bother to explain it they never get it.
I'll stick to Old-Calendar Genuine Orthodox Christianity.
What is "Old-Calendar Genuine Orthodox Christianity" and how do we know that?
How convenient for you haha
Truth is pretty convenient sometimes haha
Biden is infallible when he makes Presidential decisions, everything else before that is irrelevant. I guess we'll just have to put him in office to prove it and get the perfect President.
Alright. I have no idea what you are talking about here.