They don't claim to represent the Apostles, but they do claim to hold what has been passed down through Apostolic Succession. (By the way, I always like to clarify that I am not taking a hostile approach to this, just trying to hash out ideas)
Hey no worries! I enjoy this topic and most people just end up shouting at me (or trying to get me kicked out of school) for talking about it. Haha
Right, I shouldn’t have used the word speak, but yeah it’s more of a ‘direct lineage’ to the authority of the spirit. I just haven’t been convinced that this was the original intention. Especially given that this lineage is said to have come from Peter.
It’s a weird coincidence that this lineage starts with Peter, and the Catholic Church has a long unfortunate history of misrepresenting Christ whether through thought or actions
You won't find me saying that the Catholic Church has had its fair share of issues. Heck I can guarantee you that this Catholic gets more pissed off than anyone when an issue arises.
The question you need to ask yourself though is are the issues that are arising issues with Church doctrine and teaching or issues with "bad players" within the Church?
I would say that from all the research I have done that you may want to put your money on the latter haha
I understand that’s a safe bet for a lot of people. However the idea that I can’t control the outcome of my ‘spirit/soul/etc.’ makes far more sense to me than having to earn a gift that was said to be given by God freely and without being asked.
Catholicism has always been about here’s God, now what can I do to get/make self right in order to save my soul after I die?
Humans can’t do most shit right, and I feel placing my money on a man-made organization is not necessarily in my best interest.
But who knows I could be, and if so, then...... yikes
They don't claim to represent the Apostles, but they do claim to hold what has been passed down through Apostolic Succession. (By the way, I always like to clarify that I am not taking a hostile approach to this, just trying to hash out ideas)
Hey no worries! I enjoy this topic and most people just end up shouting at me (or trying to get me kicked out of school) for talking about it. Haha
Right, I shouldn’t have used the word speak, but yeah it’s more of a ‘direct lineage’ to the authority of the spirit. I just haven’t been convinced that this was the original intention. Especially given that this lineage is said to have come from Peter.
It’s a weird coincidence that this lineage starts with Peter, and the Catholic Church has a long unfortunate history of misrepresenting Christ whether through thought or actions
You won't find me saying that the Catholic Church has had its fair share of issues. Heck I can guarantee you that this Catholic gets more pissed off than anyone when an issue arises.
The question you need to ask yourself though is are the issues that are arising issues with Church doctrine and teaching or issues with "bad players" within the Church?
I would say that from all the research I have done that you may want to put your money on the latter haha
I understand that’s a safe bet for a lot of people. However the idea that I can’t control the outcome of my ‘spirit/soul/etc.’ makes far more sense to me than having to earn a gift that was said to be given by God freely and without being asked.
Catholicism has always been about here’s God, now what can I do to get/make self right in order to save my soul after I die?
Humans can’t do most shit right, and I feel placing my money on a man-made organization is not necessarily in my best interest.
But who knows I could be, and if so, then...... yikes
Misrepresenting Christ? I doubt you understand what the Catholic Church is about.
More than clear on what it’s about. It’s humans coming to their own conclusions on God and building an authoritarian body around that idea.