My argument for the church would be this slogan I heard "don't leave Peter because of Judas". Yes, people within the Church have made mistakes but not the Church itself. God never said the rulers of the Church wouldn't make (certain) mistakes.
Also, yes Jesus paid the debt for our sins, but he isn't going to drag us back home to the Father kicking and screaming if we don't want to. Rather He, as the new Passover Lamb, offered Himself up as the perfect sacrifice. We have to use our will in order to make the decision and participate in the sacrifice of the Lamb or not.
I think actually he would drag us though. that’s exactly how we were born. None of us ‘asked’ to be born, we just were. I just can’t wrap my head around humans knowing how to do this right after doing it wrong for thousands of years.
My argument for the church would be this slogan I heard "don't leave Peter because of Judas". Yes, people within the Church have made mistakes but not the Church itself. God never said the rulers of the Church wouldn't make (certain) mistakes.
Also, yes Jesus paid the debt for our sins, but he isn't going to drag us back home to the Father kicking and screaming if we don't want to. Rather He, as the new Passover Lamb, offered Himself up as the perfect sacrifice. We have to use our will in order to make the decision and participate in the sacrifice of the Lamb or not.
I think actually he would drag us though. that’s exactly how we were born. None of us ‘asked’ to be born, we just were. I just can’t wrap my head around humans knowing how to do this right after doing it wrong for thousands of years.
Through our cooperation with the grace of God.