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Nastyfication 2 points ago +4 / -2

Putting aside the current Pope, you are going to have to provide evidence that the papacy does not exist. You can't just say that the current pope is wrong on things or that you can't see God doing something, therefore the papacy does not exist.

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Grief 0 points ago +1 / -1

That's like telling me to prove Santa exists. You can't prove a negative. The burden of proof is on the people saying something exists. If someone told you Bigfoot existed would it be okay for them to tell you that you need proof that he doesn't exist to make a counter argument?

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Nastyfication 1 point ago +1 / -0

I put forward proof and you haven't rebutted my case. I supplied my burden of proof. Disprove it, the floor is yours.

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Grief 0 points ago +1 / -1

Just because Jesus told Peter he has the keys to go to Heaven because of his faith in His actions of dying for our sins is NOT a basis for starting a church. Telling everyone Jesus dying for their sins wasn't enough but you have to go through manmade church is nonsense. Luther was right to leave because the manmade teaching of the church conflict with Jesus' message that our faith in his dying for sins is what saves us. Not the Church.

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Nastyfication 1 point ago +1 / -0

“So we stand here and with open mouth stare heavenward and invent still other keys. Yet Christ says very clearly in Matthew 16:19 that He will give the keys to Peter. He does not say He has two kinds of keys, but He gives to Peter the keys He Himself has, and no others. It is as if He were saying: why are you staring heavenward in search of the keys? Do you not understand I gave them to Peter? They are indeed the keys of Heaven, but they are not found in Heaven. I left them on earth. Don’t look for them in Heaven or anywhere else except in Peter’s mouth where I have placed them. Peter’s mouth is My mouth, and his tongue is My key case. His office is My office, his binding and loosing are My binding and loosing.” - Martin Luther