"The only reason they want a hearing is to tarnish the nominee's reputation."
No truer words . . .
I'm guessing the Dems will turn to a decade long campaign of undermining the credibility of the Supreme Court in the attempt to intimidate the judges and foster defiance. Trying to tarnish judges in hearings, and in general turn hearings into clown shows, would probably be a part of this plan.
Never forget that the Kavanaugh/Ford hearings did NOT need to happen. It was Senate Republicans who, acting on good faith, agreed to let them happen. They are in charge of these committees. And because of it, the Democrats almost DESTROYED an innocent man’s entire life! When are Senate Republicans going to wake up to the fact that Democrats sh*t on every good faith gesture they’re given. Push the nominee through. And fast!
This is what made me upset about Kavanaugh, the republicans did not need to have a hearing but "in good faith" or whatever you want to call it, they allowed it. Look what happened. Republicans need to grow some balls and avoid that same fiasco that happened last time, do not concede to a hearing. It will be in bad faith on the Dems side if they do. Why even bother this time. Learn your lesson, grow some balls republicans.
I totally agree. While the Kavanaugh hearing may have given some short term political boost to Republicans by exposing the nastiness and insanity of Dems, it tarnished Kavanaugh and makes it less likely that qualified conservative judges will agree to go through the process.
Not to mention the whole process was just evil in general to put a good person through.
"Give the FBI time to do an investigation into the candidate because some shill was paid to make false accusations; Chris Wray already has a team assigned for that"
FUCK OFF! Just do the confirmation vote, NO HEARINGS.
Yes. I've already expressed my opinion about ACB's troubling rulings. But anyone nominated by the left would be another Ginsburg. Though ACB isn't perfect, she's not that. This needs to be done quickly.
But it might make a difference if we have the hearings or not in some people’s eyes, especially senators on the fence. Thus, best of both worlds, have the hearings but closed door. Unfortunately I don’t think the senate is prepared to do away with them completely, otherwise going straight to a vote would be best. But we can’t risk any senators deciding to go for a no vote instead of a yes because there were no hearings. If they must do hearings, they need to do them closed door.
Prior to the 1950s, SCOTUS nominees almost never had to testify. Their written judicial opinions formed the substance of debate in the senate.
Then they started calling nominees to testify. Some would simply say “my record speaks for itself.” But others started elaborating. Soon the senate testimonies became routine, but were respectful.
Then with judge Bork, who was eminently qualified, the left realized it could start using the hearings to trash nominees and prevent their appointment. And here we are.
This is what made me upset about Kavanaugh, the republicans did not need to have a hearing but "in good faith" or whatever you want to call it, they allowed it. Look what happened. Republicans need to grow some balls and avoid that same fiasco that happened last time, do not concede to a hearing. It will be in bad faith on the Dems side if they do. Why even bother this time. Learn your lesson, grow some balls republicans.
I think the Dems know they've lost this nominee--they haven't found anything to start complaining about and she's brilliant, great mentors, great family, no scandal...very hard to attack. The Republicans should just hold the vote--unless there's some fear the RINOs are plotting something...
Kavanaugh was such a low point--beyond low. I can't even look at CB Ford's picture without wanting to puke.So fake.
Dems think the average person has a 5 minute attention span and doesnt remember the Kavanaugh hearings, and they are such power hungry dregs. You think they wont attempt to smear her with anything even mad up talking points? They are already attacking her for "kidnapping" Haitian children, as if she isnt giving them a better life in the US.
No hearing necessary. Just vote. Vote on Monday. Piss on the dims and their feelings. Don’t even give them the fodder. Hell. Vote this evening. 5:30. While the press is still shitting it’s collective pants. Here’s our nominee and gee look at the time. Just confirmed.
In this case, we WANT hearings. Let the people see what the scumbag left is made of, especially Kamala Harris. Let it dominate the news cycle for a few days.
The thing is, the media isn't changing anyone's minds these days, meanwhile anyone who does end up seeing some of the truth gets redpilled by witnessing how wildly dishonest they are.
If the people don’t know what the Dems are capable of after Kava, coup, and riots, this won’t change their minds. We get no benefit and they get time to pull something.
Trust Trump, i'm sure he has already discussed the possible fraud of the election with whichever judge that he will pick and that they'll be on the same page.
Yup! The dem's main hail-mary never-going-to-happen dying-wish-foundation plan right now is to say the nominee needs to recuse themselves from anything election related for this year..
just nominate and tell Mitch to vote. Hearings are just an excuse for the Dems to grandstand and if there are cameras, they will save clips of their parts for their own propaganda and campaign ads
The problem with the OP's suggestion: When Democrats eventually get the Presidency and the Senate again (and yes, it will eventually happen down the road) .... what do you think is going to happen?
They will ramrod someone (or multiple) in that makes RBG look like a Conservative.
That's part of the reason its these two ladies that are top of the list, they've already been recently confirmed and there is absolutely ZERO reason to have another hearing.
Tarnish the nominee's reputation AND stall it out as long as possible. Possibly going into impeachment after some shocking revelation from the hearing.
Agreed. Unless it is required by law, the Democrats should be denied any opportunity to start up their circus. We've seen enough of their disgraceful antics.
Nothing in the Constitution says hearings are required, they are just custom so the other side can air their grievances. We know what they are and it won't change any minds. It just gives loud mouth do nothings like Lindsey Graham a chance to opine. Hold the vote and move on.
Don't stop with the SCOTUS vote. The GOP needs to quit following any rules designed for two civil opponents operating in good faith because that is not what we have anymore. Pretending the lunatic left is civil ties our hands and subjects our side to their abuses.
Everything besides the vote is window dressing, so just vote and tell the left to get bent.
What really is the purpose of hearings anymore? It's all just a show. They don't make their decisions to vote based on what's said during those. Democrats and turncoats will stubbornly vote no regardless.
Am I wrong to say that the Republican senators want the hearings as much as the Democrats? These folks LOVE the spotlight and the face time on TV. Never forget that they have their own personal agenda. Don't you think senator Mitchell McConnell lives for this moment? Let's get real here. I personally would not have the hearings but it is great theatre.
All the constitution says is advice and consent of Senate. I don't think we should take the chance on hearings. Just vote and not get too greedy.
Looks like Mitch wants to make the dems look stupid with how they will attack her, but hey, if you didn't know they were stupid by now the hearings won't change anything.
If you care about ACB sure skip the hearing - but politically it would be INCREDIBLY STUPID to not have the hearings. If the Dems come out and attack another clean cut Christian like Kavanaugh even the college educated suburban housewife pretend leftist will think twice about voting for Dems.
In my view MANY MANY Dem voters vote for Dems simply because they think they are the "good guys". But each time they act like the envious and resentful leftists they are we can win a few independents over.
The conditioning is intense - so you cannot win most over. Most are like Stalin's guys who all thought it was a mistake when they got arrested and were confident Stalin would not interrogate them and kill them to the very bitter end.
But you can win over some independents who take an interest in this. So from a POLITICAL standpoint you absolutely want this to happen. In fact, I think there is a fair chance Dems will back off and just ask mild questions. This is politically so dangerous for them.
The beauty is if they back off and ask mild questions it pisses off their base AND makes Trump's pick look reasonable and rational (which it is of course). So for us it's a can't lose situation.
But if you skip the hearing REPUBLICANS LOSE. Why? Because sure your judge got confirmed but now it looks like you were trying to sneak it through - like you had something to hide.
Sure you and I know that is not true. But politically that's what the Dems will claim and they will score votes. This election is very important. It's too bad Amy has to take the heat. But I am sure Trump warned her.
It's very likely IMHO he picked her because she was ready, willing and able to take on the Dem hate fest.
Exactly. Delay, delay, delay. Consider what happened with Kavanaugh: a promise from McConnell for an expeditious, days-long hearing, then comes Ford (with her horseball tears), then comes an interminable FBI investigation.
Give me a very large break. And get this pick seated ASAP.
"The only reason they want a hearing is to tarnish the nominee's reputation."
No truer words . . .
I'm guessing the Dems will turn to a decade long campaign of undermining the credibility of the Supreme Court in the attempt to intimidate the judges and foster defiance. Trying to tarnish judges in hearings, and in general turn hearings into clown shows, would probably be a part of this plan.
Never forget that the Kavanaugh/Ford hearings did NOT need to happen. It was Senate Republicans who, acting on good faith, agreed to let them happen. They are in charge of these committees. And because of it, the Democrats almost DESTROYED an innocent man’s entire life! When are Senate Republicans going to wake up to the fact that Democrats sh*t on every good faith gesture they’re given. Push the nominee through. And fast!
EXACTLY!
Push? Ram it down their throats until they choke on it.
This is what made me upset about Kavanaugh, the republicans did not need to have a hearing but "in good faith" or whatever you want to call it, they allowed it. Look what happened. Republicans need to grow some balls and avoid that same fiasco that happened last time, do not concede to a hearing. It will be in bad faith on the Dems side if they do. Why even bother this time. Learn your lesson, grow some balls republicans.
because uniparty broz. Why do u think Trump has no faith in the Senate. They are out making Sorobucks on the side.
I totally agree. While the Kavanaugh hearing may have given some short term political boost to Republicans by exposing the nastiness and insanity of Dems, it tarnished Kavanaugh and makes it less likely that qualified conservative judges will agree to go through the process.
Not to mention the whole process was just evil in general to put a good person through.
Respectfully, I don't think his character has been tarnished. He made it through the fire.
He lost work permanently. In education!
sauce?
Yeah but the ones that do go through are going to be pissed off and they are well SUPREME COURT JUDGES now. I mean... That's not all bad.
I think if Roberts and Gorsuch faced more hate - they wouldn't be as RINOesque as they have been.
She sissored my face when I wasn’t looking, then she ran off yelling “ this is MAGA country “
You have a GoFundMe yet?
No. But I wrote a book about the experience.
They are already working out the bullet points and will try to delay the game
Lol here we all are stocking regular bullets. Silly us!
"Give the FBI time to do an investigation into the candidate because some shill was paid to make false accusations; Chris Wray already has a team assigned for that"
FUCK OFF! Just do the confirmation vote, NO HEARINGS.
We all seem to have that weird synchronicity going again because I was sitting here thinking this same thing, then I saw this sticky.
Rush was saying the other day that the Senate should just go ahead and vote and I agree.
Well said by you and OP! PEDES- THIS IS FOR KAVANAUGH!!!!! (Gandalf meme)
Graham has indicated things will not be the same this time as with kavanaugh. I’m betting they will be closed door hearings.
No hearings. They will come out and twist whatever went on
They will do that no matter what so it makes no difference
So we might as well get the confirmation sooner rather than later.
Yes. I've already expressed my opinion about ACB's troubling rulings. But anyone nominated by the left would be another Ginsburg. Though ACB isn't perfect, she's not that. This needs to be done quickly.
But it might make a difference if we have the hearings or not in some people’s eyes, especially senators on the fence. Thus, best of both worlds, have the hearings but closed door. Unfortunately I don’t think the senate is prepared to do away with them completely, otherwise going straight to a vote would be best. But we can’t risk any senators deciding to go for a no vote instead of a yes because there were no hearings. If they must do hearings, they need to do them closed door.
The Senate can vote in a Justice without any debate if they have the majority.
Yeah, weird they do any hearings. What did the nominee do wrong to need a hearing over? Just vote.
Prior to the 1950s, SCOTUS nominees almost never had to testify. Their written judicial opinions formed the substance of debate in the senate.
Then they started calling nominees to testify. Some would simply say “my record speaks for itself.” But others started elaborating. Soon the senate testimonies became routine, but were respectful.
Then with judge Bork, who was eminently qualified, the left realized it could start using the hearings to trash nominees and prevent their appointment. And here we are.
And Bork becomes a verb.
As far as I can tell, it is precedent to have a hearing with any potential federal judges, but it's more of a guideline than a rule
There were rinos that would use the lack of a hearing as justification to vote no
There were with Kavanaugh, very true, but here we might not have that problem!
This is what made me upset about Kavanaugh, the republicans did not need to have a hearing but "in good faith" or whatever you want to call it, they allowed it. Look what happened. Republicans need to grow some balls and avoid that same fiasco that happened last time, do not concede to a hearing. It will be in bad faith on the Dems side if they do. Why even bother this time. Learn your lesson, grow some balls republicans.
I think the Dems know they've lost this nominee--they haven't found anything to start complaining about and she's brilliant, great mentors, great family, no scandal...very hard to attack. The Republicans should just hold the vote--unless there's some fear the RINOs are plotting something... Kavanaugh was such a low point--beyond low. I can't even look at CB Ford's picture without wanting to puke.So fake.
Dems think the average person has a 5 minute attention span and doesnt remember the Kavanaugh hearings, and they are such power hungry dregs. You think they wont attempt to smear her with anything even mad up talking points? They are already attacking her for "kidnapping" Haitian children, as if she isnt giving them a better life in the US.
Because ACB is NOT a MAGA nominee. She’s firmly GOPe.
I think it’s different if it’s former students and coworkers as opposed to politicians backing her.
Isn't that the case for Lagoa and Rushing too?
Yep
38 guarantees 30-40 years as a Justice. That’s INCREDIBLY powerful for a court with an average tenure of 16 years.
Breyer isn’t stepping down. He’s a male RBG.
In other words, Tuck or Rand Paul will have to appoint his successor in 2024-32.
No hearing necessary. Just vote. Vote on Monday. Piss on the dims and their feelings. Don’t even give them the fodder. Hell. Vote this evening. 5:30. While the press is still shitting it’s collective pants. Here’s our nominee and gee look at the time. Just confirmed.
This is what needs to happen. Its timw for “fuck you” politics, or as the Democrats all it- business as usual
Exactly right. “We will riot (more) if you don’t give us what we want”.
Really? Fuck me? No. Fuck you
Your terms are acceptable.
This is the move. While Biden is shitting himself Trump exerts his will.
No one cares to hear what any communists think, they shouldn't be in the hallowed halls of congress in the first place.
Soviet media show trial is all it is. Exactly what they did to Clarence Thomas and Kavanaugh.
In this case, we WANT hearings. Let the people see what the scumbag left is made of, especially Kamala Harris. Let it dominate the news cycle for a few days.
But only like 2 million for the impeachment right 😂
The thing is, the media isn't changing anyone's minds these days, meanwhile anyone who does end up seeing some of the truth gets redpilled by witnessing how wildly dishonest they are.
I would say they should know that from Kavanaugh, but Dems rely on the media and on people having the attention span of a gnat.
Well, yes, of course, but against a working woman with several kids - including a few adopted black kids - that may not work well
In fact, I think it will backfire. Remember how much the attack on Sam Alito backfired all those years ago ?
This - Kavanaugh was a MASSIVE red pill
If the people don’t know what the Dems are capable of after Kava, coup, and riots, this won’t change their minds. We get no benefit and they get time to pull something.
They are limiting hearings to 3 days. I hope they stick to that.
I’m old enough to remember when they said “15 Days to #FlattenTheCurve”
Thats called a Faucian Transform in advanced Epidemiology studies.
Trust Trump, i'm sure he has already discussed the possible fraud of the election with whichever judge that he will pick and that they'll be on the same page.
Yup! The dem's main hail-mary never-going-to-happen dying-wish-foundation plan right now is to say the nominee needs to recuse themselves from anything election related for this year..
lololololololololollllllllllllllllllll
Hold a republican only hearing. Let's be real - would a single Democrat outside of Manchin vote for whoever is picked?
Not supporting, but he is certainly the lesser of the democrat evils.
NO HEARINGS
just nominate and tell Mitch to vote. Hearings are just an excuse for the Dems to grandstand and if there are cameras, they will save clips of their parts for their own propaganda and campaign ads
How will the RINOs vote if there are no hearings?
no matter the pick, move right to floor vote Mitch
The Senate should call a session right before Trump makes his announcement and then call the vote right then and there.
Plus, at this point, I can’t stand to even look at them. They disgust me.
STRAIGHT TO THE POINT
I would want to see hearings as that would let the entire public see how evil Democrats are at attacking a woman, faith etc.
Also Lindsey Graham might be able to use the hearings to get some points in the polls as his senate seat is in competition .
ACB was already approved and confirmed by the Senate Judiciary Committee to be a Seventh District Judge just a couple of years ago.
No need for a rerun.
The problem with the OP's suggestion: When Democrats eventually get the Presidency and the Senate again (and yes, it will eventually happen down the road) .... what do you think is going to happen?
They will ramrod someone (or multiple) in that makes RBG look like a Conservative.
They would do it anyway
The left are shit flinging monkeys, they want their filth all over their targets.
One day of hearings, five minutes per Senator for questioning, unlimited response time by candidate.
I want fucking mute buttons. You go over time or off topic, your little toddler rant gets muted.
POTUS should release a name then retract a few days later. This will allow the media to lay their attacks and then be forced to eat their own shit.
That's part of the reason its these two ladies that are top of the list, they've already been recently confirmed and there is absolutely ZERO reason to have another hearing.
Tarnish the nominee's reputation AND stall it out as long as possible. Possibly going into impeachment after some shocking revelation from the hearing.
I'm torn on this.
On the one hand, if we do that, it will give them an excuse to do the same in the future.
On the other hand, they will probably do it in the future anyway.
Let them do it. Their antics always end up redpilling more people.
And what are they going to trash her for? Her religion? The Baal worshipers really want to show their hand.
Agreed. Unless it is required by law, the Democrats should be denied any opportunity to start up their circus. We've seen enough of their disgraceful antics.
I sure hope we don't end up with no hearing and RINO's voting no because there wasn't a hearing.
If it's Barrett, there is no reason to have hearings. She was just confirmed 2 1/2 years ago. Hold the vote and be done with it.
it's a new job, they must be confirmed again, just like Bill Barr had to and he was AG before
Nothing in the Constitution says hearings are required, they are just custom so the other side can air their grievances. We know what they are and it won't change any minds. It just gives loud mouth do nothings like Lindsey Graham a chance to opine. Hold the vote and move on.
The American People: "Fill That Seat!"
Jerry Nadler:
Don't stop with the SCOTUS vote. The GOP needs to quit following any rules designed for two civil opponents operating in good faith because that is not what we have anymore. Pretending the lunatic left is civil ties our hands and subjects our side to their abuses.
Everything besides the vote is window dressing, so just vote and tell the left to get bent.
Ya but do YOU want to start acting like a democrat? . Do you want that for all Conservatives? being like dems
What really is the purpose of hearings anymore? It's all just a show. They don't make their decisions to vote based on what's said during those. Democrats and turncoats will stubbornly vote no regardless.
We are a Constitutional Republic. We must stop using the word Democracy. A Democracy is what antifa and BLM are currently displaying. Mob rule.
But I do get what you mean.
They threw civility out the window with the stunt they pulled with Kavanaugh, fill that seat!
Agree. We don’t need another freak show as in Kavanaugh’s hearings. F-ck Dems.
Am I wrong to say that the Republican senators want the hearings as much as the Democrats? These folks LOVE the spotlight and the face time on TV. Never forget that they have their own personal agenda. Don't you think senator Mitchell McConnell lives for this moment? Let's get real here. I personally would not have the hearings but it is great theatre.
All the constitution says is advice and consent of Senate. I don't think we should take the chance on hearings. Just vote and not get too greedy.
Looks like Mitch wants to make the dems look stupid with how they will attack her, but hey, if you didn't know they were stupid by now the hearings won't change anything.
If you care about ACB sure skip the hearing - but politically it would be INCREDIBLY STUPID to not have the hearings. If the Dems come out and attack another clean cut Christian like Kavanaugh even the college educated suburban housewife pretend leftist will think twice about voting for Dems.
In my view MANY MANY Dem voters vote for Dems simply because they think they are the "good guys". But each time they act like the envious and resentful leftists they are we can win a few independents over.
The conditioning is intense - so you cannot win most over. Most are like Stalin's guys who all thought it was a mistake when they got arrested and were confident Stalin would not interrogate them and kill them to the very bitter end.
But you can win over some independents who take an interest in this. So from a POLITICAL standpoint you absolutely want this to happen. In fact, I think there is a fair chance Dems will back off and just ask mild questions. This is politically so dangerous for them.
The beauty is if they back off and ask mild questions it pisses off their base AND makes Trump's pick look reasonable and rational (which it is of course). So for us it's a can't lose situation.
But if you skip the hearing REPUBLICANS LOSE. Why? Because sure your judge got confirmed but now it looks like you were trying to sneak it through - like you had something to hide.
Sure you and I know that is not true. But politically that's what the Dems will claim and they will score votes. This election is very important. It's too bad Amy has to take the heat. But I am sure Trump warned her.
It's very likely IMHO he picked her because she was ready, willing and able to take on the Dem hate fest.
This should be a Trump tweet
I disagree, let them attack her faith and children. Show catholics around the country how much the demonrats despise them
their unhinged madness can only bring people to our side.
1000%
Fuck the Democrats, this is for Kavanaugh.
We need the background check on Barrett too
Is fucking up the transparency some new kind of meme, because it's goddamn stupid.
What?
Exactly. Delay, delay, delay. Consider what happened with Kavanaugh: a promise from McConnell for an expeditious, days-long hearing, then comes Ford (with her horseball tears), then comes an interminable FBI investigation.
Give me a very large break. And get this pick seated ASAP.
agree
and to try to delay things
then it looks like we are ramming it threw and it will look bad for the voting public. 3d chess, even tho we are ramming it threw. LOL