the history of Haiti is actually kind of fascinating, there's some good youtube vids about it. it's way more complicated than a slave revolt, but that was also in there too
Blacks freeing themselves from white slavery does not necessarily equal glorifying the excesses of the revolution. Had they been able to do it blodlessly that would have been preferable but blood had to be spilt.
No they didn't, and it was indeed genocidal. But white slaveowners and soldiers fighting against emancipation did need to be defeated in order for liberation of the island.
Say what you will about Haiti's poor self-governance since kicking out whites but slavery is wrong and harms blacks as well as white society. Had the south never imported African slaves US history would be much different.
He is glorifying liberation of his people not the genocide that accompanied it.
It's like if I said I support the US effort in WWII and you said that I am shamelessly glorifying throwing japanese in internment camps by doing so. Kanye's position is likely one of nuance.
They are the exact same thing actually. The "liberation" directly involved mass-slaughter. Would you be okay with Germans celebrating the Nazi war-effort? Probably not because it directly accompanied human rights violations.
That doesn't make it okay at all or something we should glorify. By that logic, the mass-rape of civilians during WW2 should be glorified and celebrated. No.
Ridiculous parallel. What "mass-rape" are you referring to? Mass bombings maybe? Dresden? Tokyo? Berlin? If you want to make arguments please refer to actual events.
You should feel alarmed and realize black people hate whites and fantasize about genociding us all the time.
the history of Haiti is actually kind of fascinating, there's some good youtube vids about it. it's way more complicated than a slave revolt, but that was also in there too
Blacks freeing themselves from white slavery does not necessarily equal glorifying the excesses of the revolution. Had they been able to do it blodlessly that would have been preferable but blood had to be spilt.
They did not have to rape and brutally murder white civilians. Stop.
No they didn't, and it was indeed genocidal. But white slaveowners and soldiers fighting against emancipation did need to be defeated in order for liberation of the island.
Say what you will about Haiti's poor self-governance since kicking out whites but slavery is wrong and harms blacks as well as white society. Had the south never imported African slaves US history would be much different.
You cannot separate the "liberation" from the genocide.
If emancipation from slavery requires genocide, as you claim, then sobeit
what would you do if black people enslaved you and your family and friends for decades. sit down to tea and an accord?
you stop. people are people. you're not above anyone. God is, that's it.
I would not rape their kids and women and brutally slaughter them. Quit justifying genocide please.
Rape and murder of innocent people, especially based on race, is wrong. Sorry I have to explain this to some of you retards.
Sorry, but actual slaves revolting and killing their masters? I got NO problem with that. Kill all slavers. Kill all slave owners. Period.
Same category as child rapists in my opinion. Killing is too good for 'em.
The people they killed weren't all masters lol. Most were just white civilians, women and children that were brutally tortured and murdered.
History is messy. All whites save for 2000 germans were massacred after the revolution. Was it bad? Yes. Was Haiti under French slavery bad? Yes.
So? Glorifying the mass-rape and murder or white people is just as shameless as glorifying brutal slavery.
He is glorifying liberation of his people not the genocide that accompanied it.
It's like if I said I support the US effort in WWII and you said that I am shamelessly glorifying throwing japanese in internment camps by doing so. Kanye's position is likely one of nuance.
They are the exact same thing actually. The "liberation" directly involved mass-slaughter. Would you be okay with Germans celebrating the Nazi war-effort? Probably not because it directly accompanied human rights violations.
Yes.
Based. All peoples do have a right to be proud of their history and what they fought for.
Okay then by that logic I have a problem with Kanye celebrating it because it was against white people and I don't care about black liberation.
That's too bad. But I can't feel too much sympathy. How many civilians and non-slave owners died to end slavery in our civil war?
REAL oppression will almost always result in indiscriminate retaliation. Blood begets blood, etc.
Pay up front, like we did... or pay full price later. Just my opinion.
That doesn't make it okay at all or something we should glorify. By that logic, the mass-rape of civilians during WW2 should be glorified and celebrated. No.
Ridiculous parallel. What "mass-rape" are you referring to? Mass bombings maybe? Dresden? Tokyo? Berlin? If you want to make arguments please refer to actual events.
The Allies raped millions of women in Europe, you denying that? The Allies themselves admit it. Not a ridiculous parallel at all.
Bullshit. Link the source.
Lmao you're actually that ignorant? Guess that explains the prior ignorant comments you've made.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_occupation_of_Germany
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2002/may/01/news.features11
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/allied-soldiers-including-canadians-raped-thousands-of-german-women-after-second-world-war-research
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/germany-shines-light-rape-allied-troops-who-defeated-nazis-n363136
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-32529679
He’S oN oUr SiDe.
Why peacefully ask the French to leave when you can just massacre them.
They did ask the French to leave. They kept sending armies to try to reconquer Haiti.