There is another video from a different perspective that starts several seconds earlier.
The car door is open and nobody seems to be touching the vehicle. The car is mostly surrounded but could probably have backed up safely.
Then the car suddenly takes off very quickly and plows into a large number of people.
No slow wind up. No horn honk.
The car stops for a second after hitting a bunch of people, then takes off again, just as quickly even though are now a bunch of people stacked in front of the car, who cannot move. Then more people get hit and dragged in front of the car or run over.
Look at :05 There are people behind the car... they don't appear to be blocking bu rather walking around... and there is another car behind the perp car. She wasn't clear to back out.
Having said that, I can't tell if people were willing to give the driver a path out as they should. Don't trap people.
I mistakenly assumed she was in a parking spot. You are correct, they should have given her berth in front of the car, we don't know if they would have done that had she not ran them over.
Link is above to slowed-down copy of video. The original driver of the car got out, and walked calmly away into the crowd without incident. The driver who drove into the crowd then entered the vehicle, closed the door, and almost immediately accelerated into people.
Looks like we're going to need clarifications on this law. These people weren't touching her car. They weren't acting like angry antifa lunatics or banging on her doors. They were standing there in a parking lot.
To be fair, if I had people surrounding my car I'm not thinking about backing up. This driver may have been in a panic (I would be) and didn't realize she could have backed up. Point is, you should never surround someone's vehicle like that (touching the car or not) to prevent them from leaving. Allowing someone the option to leave via only backing up their car when they were already moving forward is not ok. I don't care which side you are on, don't surround someone's vehicle not allowing them to move forward. Wrong is wrong. I'm sure this post will upset people, but we can't bitch about the left doing something like this but think it's justified because the right is doing it. Just my two cents.
This did not occur. She was parked and not moving at all. Noone touched her vehicle. She does not have the right to run people over who are not actively attacking her. That's the law.
Making up a lot without any evidence. All we know from video is driver calmly got in the vehicle, unmolested by anyone, and deliberately drove into people.
The video isn't enough for what? It clearly shows she was able to back out of the parking space and that noone was touching her vehicle before she decided to accelerate into protesters.
Dude the trapped argument is utter bullshit. One she could reverse, and two it was a parking lot.
By the logic of "if people are in front of you, you can plow through them in a parking lot" is utter horseshit.
In Texas people do charity barbecues, they have county fairs, all sorts of events occurring in parking lots. You can't drive into a parking lot, into a crowd of people, and decide instead of reversing you're just going to mow people down. That's insane.
If this was a street or highway, totally different situation because traffic is expected routinely but when a business allows protestors in their parking lot and crowds form you absolutely can not just decide you're going through them.
Even if it’s a freaking parking lot, A VEHICLE IS STILL ALLOWED TO DRIVE THROUGH A PARKING LOT AND YOU ARENT ALLOWED TO BLOCK SOMEONE ELSES MOVEMENT...even in a parking lot
That is completely illogical. Concerts and tons of events are hosted in parking lots. According to your logic you can literally drive into a crowd of people at a concert and when they dont move out of the way because they are telling you to reverse out you can just mow down people.
One second they are switching drivers, doesn't seem to be much "threatening" going on (some guy is taking a pic of the plate), a second later the new driver is plowing through the crowd.
Need more info, but looks very fishy indeed.
Edit: Needs confirming, but hearing a lot of reports this was in a parking lot, so that completely debunks the whole innocently driving down a road that was being "blocked" by protestors ... on top of the fact that they were switching drivers for no apparent reason, of course.
This next bit is complete and pure tin foil hat speculation, but: in a another thread someone suggested that it might be a total set up. Meaning they would just need one "planted" person to attack the car, to make it look like the new driver was justified in plowing through the crowd ... absolutely bananas if there is any shred of truth to this.
Then again, not a lot of us expected that other Patriot to get hunted that night. Remember that picture of the coward hiding in wait around the corner of the parking garage entrance ?
There a small hit in the windshiled lower right corner..
Someone says "good luck getting out of here"
BUT no one in that scene is attacking the Person changing seats... I don`t see their lifes threatened in anyway. Most people are not looking at the car..
Exactly, they weren't exactly in fear for their life if they were casually getting in and out of the car, at the very least mere seconds before they gunned it the first time.
I'm against surrounding vehicles. That said she apparently was in the driver's seat about 3 seconds before she hit someone. Doesn't look good for her. However I don't know what was happening 15 minutes before.
If the driver is surrounded and feeling intimidated...you never know if they will hit the gas, whether carpark or road (what is the difference? Who was the driver anyway?
Read the articles, no matter what side you're on.
This happened in a parking lot, I would say that's very different than a road.
Was the driver trapped? It's a valid question.
Watch the video. She was clear to back out and noone was touching her car.
I did watch the video. Does backing out lead to an exit? Or was the vehicle trapped?
There is another video from a different perspective that starts several seconds earlier.
The car door is open and nobody seems to be touching the vehicle. The car is mostly surrounded but could probably have backed up safely.
Then the car suddenly takes off very quickly and plows into a large number of people.
No slow wind up. No horn honk.
The car stops for a second after hitting a bunch of people, then takes off again, just as quickly even though are now a bunch of people stacked in front of the car, who cannot move. Then more people get hit and dragged in front of the car or run over.
There are multiple videos. She had a clear path to reverse her vehicle and noone was touching it, she chose to drive forward instead.
who fucking cares
im opposed to anyone blocking traffic regardless.
This was a parking lot
Nobody was blocking her car. She had a clear path to reverse.
Look at :05 There are people behind the car... they don't appear to be blocking bu rather walking around... and there is another car behind the perp car. She wasn't clear to back out.
Having said that, I can't tell if people were willing to give the driver a path out as they should. Don't trap people.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1309990341076893696
I mistakenly assumed she was in a parking spot. You are correct, they should have given her berth in front of the car, we don't know if they would have done that had she not ran them over.
Link is above to slowed-down copy of video. The original driver of the car got out, and walked calmly away into the crowd without incident. The driver who drove into the crowd then entered the vehicle, closed the door, and almost immediately accelerated into people.
This was a planned, premeditated assualt.
Yeah you're right.
Looks like we're going to need clarifications on this law. These people weren't touching her car. They weren't acting like angry antifa lunatics or banging on her doors. They were standing there in a parking lot.
She hopped in her car and immediately gunned it.
To be fair, if I had people surrounding my car I'm not thinking about backing up. This driver may have been in a panic (I would be) and didn't realize she could have backed up. Point is, you should never surround someone's vehicle like that (touching the car or not) to prevent them from leaving. Allowing someone the option to leave via only backing up their car when they were already moving forward is not ok. I don't care which side you are on, don't surround someone's vehicle not allowing them to move forward. Wrong is wrong. I'm sure this post will upset people, but we can't bitch about the left doing something like this but think it's justified because the right is doing it. Just my two cents.
This did not occur. She was parked and not moving at all. Noone touched her vehicle. She does not have the right to run people over who are not actively attacking her. That's the law.
Making up a lot without any evidence. All we know from video is driver calmly got in the vehicle, unmolested by anyone, and deliberately drove into people.
Do you have access to more video? It doesn't seem that clear to me whether they were blocking/harassing her or walking through.
The video isn't enough for what? It clearly shows she was able to back out of the parking space and that noone was touching her vehicle before she decided to accelerate into protesters.
Guy in the video clearly said good luck getting out of here.
Dude the trapped argument is utter bullshit. One she could reverse, and two it was a parking lot.
By the logic of "if people are in front of you, you can plow through them in a parking lot" is utter horseshit.
In Texas people do charity barbecues, they have county fairs, all sorts of events occurring in parking lots. You can't drive into a parking lot, into a crowd of people, and decide instead of reversing you're just going to mow people down. That's insane.
If this was a street or highway, totally different situation because traffic is expected routinely but when a business allows protestors in their parking lot and crowds form you absolutely can not just decide you're going through them.
Even if it’s a freaking parking lot, A VEHICLE IS STILL ALLOWED TO DRIVE THROUGH A PARKING LOT AND YOU ARENT ALLOWED TO BLOCK SOMEONE ELSES MOVEMENT...even in a parking lot
That is completely illogical. Concerts and tons of events are hosted in parking lots. According to your logic you can literally drive into a crowd of people at a concert and when they dont move out of the way because they are telling you to reverse out you can just mow down people.
That's just straight up murder.
VERY STRANGE INDEED. (second video down from top of this tweet):
One second they are switching drivers, doesn't seem to be much "threatening" going on (some guy is taking a pic of the plate), a second later the new driver is plowing through the crowd.
Need more info, but looks very fishy indeed.
Edit: Needs confirming, but hearing a lot of reports this was in a parking lot, so that completely debunks the whole innocently driving down a road that was being "blocked" by protestors ... on top of the fact that they were switching drivers for no apparent reason, of course.
This next bit is complete and pure tin foil hat speculation, but: in a another thread someone suggested that it might be a total set up. Meaning they would just need one "planted" person to attack the car, to make it look like the new driver was justified in plowing through the crowd ... absolutely bananas if there is any shred of truth to this.
Then again, not a lot of us expected that other Patriot to get hunted that night. Remember that picture of the coward hiding in wait around the corner of the parking garage entrance ?
MOST IMPORTANT PART OF THIS INCIDENT!
There a small hit in the windshiled lower right corner..
Someone says "good luck getting out of here"
BUT no one in that scene is attacking the Person changing seats... I don`t see their lifes threatened in anyway. Most people are not looking at the car..
Exactly, they weren't exactly in fear for their life if they were casually getting in and out of the car, at the very least mere seconds before they gunned it the first time.
Right! There was no direct attack after drivers changed seats. Walked around car and faced away from the people.
Her windshield was smashed after accelerating over protesters.
this is what antifa do. dont surround cars like idiots. if some1 made the wrong turn, let them through slowly. dont surround the car and bang on sides
The second plow yes, totally agree, but the initial ram (from this single perspective video) seems unprovoked.
Need more context.
I'm against surrounding vehicles. That said she apparently was in the driver's seat about 3 seconds before she hit someone. Doesn't look good for her. However I don't know what was happening 15 minutes before.
The second plow started before the dude smashed her rear window.
She hit them first. Hope you don't get away with trying to blend in with us when your comrades are put against the wall
Only after ramming people when she didn't need to.
ok cuck
Yep it's private and pedestrians have the right of way.
Were they crossing, or blocking? That matters.
Don't go fishing for ways to excuse hypocrisy.
It is very different than a road. Regardless, if a car wants through, why block them?
If the driver is surrounded and feeling intimidated...you never know if they will hit the gas, whether carpark or road (what is the difference? Who was the driver anyway?