Except he didn't 'save' those that get sent to Hell. No forgiveness there...
Y'know if you found and nursed a stray cat but later decided to burn it alive, because it just wandered off and found a new home, you'd be considered a MONSTER--especially if you blamed the cat; and especially if you decided to burn it again after if it had miraculously healed the first time.
Why did this 'ever-loving' God create Hell for some of us?
Individuals choose what type of life they will lead. Anyone and everyone can reflect and repent.....if you go marching to death with your heels in the ground filled with hatred that is your choice.
It's the ultimate freedom. Without a judeo-christian basis of good and evil and the freedom to choose between the two, the basis of our entire country is meaningless. The why you have legions of atheist Biden voters actively trying to burn the system down.
It is always about choice. You choose to ask questions and ask for answers. It is your choice to believe what ever you choose to believe. I shared my understanding and belief.
If its true, as you believe, then there is NO choice--unless yr a pain loving masochist. Y either do what God wants or get 'burnt' alive, endlessly without relief. What's the choice?
Hell wasn't created for us, it was made for the fallen angels.
God created mankind with a free will, if there isn't a bad option, we couldn't exercise our free will, and there would be no difference to not having a free will.
It is up to you to follow God and live, or follow flesh and die. God is perfect, anything less cannot live with Him, therefore if you choose sin, you cannot be with God in Heaven.
God created mankind with a free will, if there isn't a bad option, we couldn't exercise our free will, and there would be no difference to not having a free will.
Much more concise than how I was trying to type it out. Have my meaningless points.
Angels are different than humans, they made their choice once and for all. Humans choose and re-choose throughout their lives, we do thinks we kind of want to do but don't really want to do (think getting in an angry argument and saying things you regret) in part because our emotions get the best of us. Angels and fallen angels are spirit, they don't have hormones or things like that and their knowledge is of a higher degree and their will is stronger. So angels made a deliberate, knowing, decision for or against God and that decision is final.
Those who are in heaven will become perfected just as Jesus was at his resurrection. It will be Impossible for people to sin, just as the holy angels have the ability but choose not to sin because they are in the direct presence of God and all His glory.
I read up on this further and realized what I was recalling came from Job, but at the end of Job we realize that particular argument was wrong. Thanks for prodding me to do some digging.
From what I read, we'll still have free will in heaven but no desire to sin, so that fight we battle here on earth will be lifted.
Jesus didn’t give anyone a free pass to be a sinner. You still have to follow the narrow path of Christianity. If you want someone who will accept and encourage you to be a sinner lucifer is your guy.
How about we get Jesus and Lucifer to BOTH fuck off out of our lives? One wants us to FEAR God, the other wants us to hurt/rob stupid people. Got a brilliant brain (i.e humanity)...should be able to work out what's right and wrong. BTw I'm not telling 'God' to get out of our lives. I think 'God', Jesus and Lucifer are completely separate...and NO I don't believe Jesus is God. He even said so himself:
John: 14:28:"...because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I."
And btw, you can believe or not believe whatever you like. The people that want to drive us into one global government absolutely believe and follow lucifer, and your lack of belief won’t stop them from doing so.
The people that want to drive us into one global government absolutely believe and follow lucifer,
I'm not saying there isn't any evil. There is. Some name it 'Lucifer'. A lot of this evil is actually 'illegal' here on Earth, so it should be straightforward to deal with.
A lot of edgy atheist kids want to laugh off God so they can convince themselves that watching porn and getting high all the time is not a bad thing but deep down they know it is so they need to snuff out their consciouses and that begins with denying Jesus.
Nice false equivalency you have there. I didn't know blatant animal cruelty to spitting in your Creators face daily was the same thing. Instead of blaming a perfect and just God , how about you stop being a sinful piece of shit that shifts the blame on others.
Except he didn't 'save' those that get sent to Hell. No forgiveness there...
Y'know if you found and nursed a stray cat but later decided to burn it alive, because it just wandered off and found a new home, you'd be considered a MONSTER--especially if you blamed the cat; and especially if you decided to burn it again after if it had miraculously healed the first time.
Why did this 'ever-loving' God create Hell for some of us?
Sin.
Study what Sin is - and you will have your answer.
Individuals choose what type of life they will lead. Anyone and everyone can reflect and repent.....if you go marching to death with your heels in the ground filled with hatred that is your choice.
It's the ultimate freedom. Without a judeo-christian basis of good and evil and the freedom to choose between the two, the basis of our entire country is meaningless. The why you have legions of atheist Biden voters actively trying to burn the system down.
Its a threat.
It is always about choice. You choose to ask questions and ask for answers. It is your choice to believe what ever you choose to believe. I shared my understanding and belief.
I choose not to believe, but I know I will vote for Mr Trump.
If its true, as you believe, then there is NO choice--unless yr a pain loving masochist. Y either do what God wants or get 'burnt' alive, endlessly without relief. What's the choice?
Hell wasn't created for us, it was made for the fallen angels.
God created mankind with a free will, if there isn't a bad option, we couldn't exercise our free will, and there would be no difference to not having a free will.
It is up to you to follow God and live, or follow flesh and die. God is perfect, anything less cannot live with Him, therefore if you choose sin, you cannot be with God in Heaven.
Much more concise than how I was trying to type it out. Have my meaningless points.
At the same times even the angels in Heaven aren't perfect. And we won't be either if we get there, right?
Angels are different than humans, they made their choice once and for all. Humans choose and re-choose throughout their lives, we do thinks we kind of want to do but don't really want to do (think getting in an angry argument and saying things you regret) in part because our emotions get the best of us. Angels and fallen angels are spirit, they don't have hormones or things like that and their knowledge is of a higher degree and their will is stronger. So angels made a deliberate, knowing, decision for or against God and that decision is final.
Those who are in heaven will become perfected just as Jesus was at his resurrection. It will be Impossible for people to sin, just as the holy angels have the ability but choose not to sin because they are in the direct presence of God and all His glory.
I read up on this further and realized what I was recalling came from Job, but at the end of Job we realize that particular argument was wrong. Thanks for prodding me to do some digging.
From what I read, we'll still have free will in heaven but no desire to sin, so that fight we battle here on earth will be lifted.
Jesus didn’t give anyone a free pass to be a sinner. You still have to follow the narrow path of Christianity. If you want someone who will accept and encourage you to be a sinner lucifer is your guy.
Jesus is Lucifer in the NT.
What are you smoking?
How about we get Jesus and Lucifer to BOTH fuck off out of our lives? One wants us to FEAR God, the other wants us to hurt/rob stupid people. Got a brilliant brain (i.e humanity)...should be able to work out what's right and wrong. BTw I'm not telling 'God' to get out of our lives. I think 'God', Jesus and Lucifer are completely separate...and NO I don't believe Jesus is God. He even said so himself:
And btw, you can believe or not believe whatever you like. The people that want to drive us into one global government absolutely believe and follow lucifer, and your lack of belief won’t stop them from doing so.
I'm not saying there isn't any evil. There is. Some name it 'Lucifer'. A lot of this evil is actually 'illegal' here on Earth, so it should be straightforward to deal with.
A lot of edgy atheist kids want to laugh off God so they can convince themselves that watching porn and getting high all the time is not a bad thing but deep down they know it is so they need to snuff out their consciouses and that begins with denying Jesus.
Well even if you 'snuff out' Jesus your conscience will still come to get you. Jesus is not your consciene. He plays on your conscience
Just going to ignore where Jesus says that He and the Father are one eh?
Well me and Trump are 'one' as well...in the sense we're on the same page. But I'm NOT Donald Trump (obviously).
How about you believe what you want and mind your own business?
To be fair, the OP did ask
Sounds good. I should never have opened this can of worms. I'm still MAGA.
Jesus told us to “fear” God like you and me “fear” the police. The term “play stupid games and win stupid prizes” could also apply to God.
He wasn’t asking you to fear God like the Muslims fear Allah
If Hell exists then you better fear God MORE than Muslims fear Allah.
God doesn't want people to fear the police. Your god sucks cop dick.
Nice false equivalency you have there. I didn't know blatant animal cruelty to spitting in your Creators face daily was the same thing. Instead of blaming a perfect and just God , how about you stop being a sinful piece of shit that shifts the blame on others.