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bitterbut_true -32 points ago +3 / -35

If its true, as you believe, then there is NO choice--unless yr a pain loving masochist. Y either do what God wants or get 'burnt' alive, endlessly without relief. What's the choice?

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Statetheism_Sucks 31 points ago +32 / -1

The choice is repent and change your heart or don't.

There are always consequences for actions.

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AtomicGoya 4 points ago +6 / -2

Believe that Jesus Christ is God in the flesh. Salvation is through BELIEF, not repenting. Repenting is your service to Christ after salvation. Repenting is a work, and we are not saved through our works. As the Bible says.

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HatnNewLognReqs -1 points ago +1 / -2

This isn't a Protestant belief. This is a wrong belief or set of actions across many denominations for thousands of years, starting with the first Christians. Or "Christians"?

Check out Hebrews 10:26-30; 38-38 and 1 John 3:6.

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Iamnotademocrat1 [S] 9 points ago +11 / -2

I am not here to convince you or change your mind. It is a choice. Are you an agnostic, atheist or just like to debate.

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bitterbut_true -9 points ago +6 / -15

I believe in God. I just don't believe Jesus is God.

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otistoole 2 points ago +2 / -0

Ok but check this out: christianity is the only religion where the focus is on love and forgiveness. All the other religions are focused on worshipping cows or covering up yr women in blankets or meditating or some other stupid shit. That has to mean something, right?

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MerlynTrump 2 points ago +2 / -0

Interesting point.

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AtomicGoya 1 point ago +2 / -1

https://youtu.be/ytyntyd2fTw

Please watch It’s short and these guys are very understandable and knowledgeable. I hope you find this extremely important truth.

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HCQaddict -5 points ago +3 / -8

18 years a Christian, same. The Gospel of John and the "synoptic problem" helps you realise how stupid the cult is.

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TheDaoOfSalt 3 points ago +4 / -1

The 'synoptic problem' is the seminary version liberal academia's attempts to reinvent reality to suit their vision. It is pushed by individuals with an a priori disregard for the authenticity of Scripture.

In a court of law, do we consider the agreement of witness statements to be a problem? Of course not. We consider that evidence that the witness testimony is reliable.

If three friends all tell you they had a good meal at a particular restaurant, do you immediately jump to the conclusion that there must have been a fourth friend - one you have never met - who actually went to the restaurant, so you can't possibly trust their accounts? No, that would be utterly ridiculous.

The 'synoptic problem' is not an actual problem for theologians, lay or professional. The Gospel of John doesn't even have any meaningful differences, or contradictions; rather, John focuses on certain truths and events over the ones the other Gospels centered on. If you disagree, go ahead and list meaningful discrepancies. Take your time. I'll wait.

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tombombadil 3 points ago +4 / -1

I’ve got news fo ya bud: you are not a Christian.

And no this is not a “no true Scotsman” argument. By definition, if you do not believe that Jesus is the son of God, then you are not a Christian.

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Loiuzein 2 points ago +5 / -3

You either obey the law or you go to prison. If you break the law hard enough you die.

You either eat or you starve.

I can't reconcile endless torment with a God that cares for its creations, but I can absolutely reconcile bad choices with negative consequences.

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Loiuzein 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why? Ten thousand years of repentance sounds like long enough to justify one's forgiveness.

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tombombadil 1 point ago +1 / -0

So you believe that the choice should only be something that pleases you?

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CrAzD 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sir, you're contradicting yourself. There's no choice, unless......

You know there's a choice, you've chosen to live in rebellion against God. Please repent (turn from your ways) and reconcile with God.