Your family is nucking futs. They are gaslighting you. They are frighteningly controlled by the rhetoric to think that you expressing support will fire up the mobs. Remind them of Germany 1944. They are over reacting.
You were being neighborly. Whenever we meet someone, we always try to find mutual interests and are generally attracted to people we have things in common with. You didn't screw up, and you should assure your Grandparents that Trump supporters are not violent people.
Your grandfather sounds irrational. Also, he sounds like an authoritarian leftist not a liberal. A true liberal would encourage everyone to "do their own thing" even if they disagreed. If anything your friendly interaction probably alleviates some tension between neighbors. TDS is a hell of a drug. Sorry you have to deal with it.
I would just let it go. That was way over dramatic. My grandfather would have heard me say "nice shirt, I can't believe people actually support the other creep"
Never apologize for speaking your mind. Never be afraid to voice your opinion. I understand where they’re coming from given the state of the country, but they’re way less likely to have something bad happen to them by a trump supporter than the alternative. No apologies.
No you’re fine. They’re overreacting. I work with customers every day and still talk politics (despite that being like the one thing you shouldn’t do with customers) because I’ll always stay civil. If they don’t that’s on them not you
You paid the neighbor a compliment on her shirt and that makes your grandparents afraid for their safety? They are still free to "keep their relationship with those people apolitical," but the neighbor obviously isn't interested in keeping her relationship with her various neighbors strictly apolitical, or she wouldn't be wearing a Trump T-shirt around her property, so it's absurd to think that you've somehow damaged your grandparents' relationship with their neighbor.
So your grandfather thinks that being labeled a Trump supporter endangers his safety? Maybe that is the reason right there he should distance himself of the left: they have a strict record of violence and genocide.
If your grandfather will appease the mob out of fear he should buy a ticket to gtfo or find himself a master and start picking cotton. Not worthy to be a citizen.
You did nothing wrong. I will be diplomatic and say yes your grandfather was being massively overdramatic. It is completely disrespectful for them to police someone's interactions with other people.
They apparently didn't announce this rule in advance, so it's really quite unreasonable for them to expect an apology from their adult grandchild for telling the neighbor he liked her Trump T-shirt. Going forward, it would be appropriate for OP to abide by the rule, now that he's been informed of it, but no apology is warranted.
Point taken. In this situation, it seems to me that an explicit apology might just encourage more unreasonable and unhealthy demands, and there was really no problem created. I'd feel differently if OP had been running around the grandparents' yard in a Trump shirt or hat and striking up conversations with neighbors who happened to be out in their yards. But he just acknowledged the neighbor's Trump shirt in a positive way, so in no way creating a conflict where there had previously been none. Under the circumstances, I feel like it would be more appropriate to say something like "I didn't realize it would be a problem, but I'll make sure not to bring up anything political with any of your neighbors again." But of course, there's a larger context of the relationship between the grandparents and OP that we're not familiar with, and I'm not going say no way in hell should OP apologize.
I would definitely talk to them and be truthful by saying you didn't realize what you said would be an issue. You can apologize for creating the situation without apologizing for your beliefs, Offer to leave if speaking out is that important to you or stay if not. That's YOUR choice.
But when considering that option, remember that they won't be around that much longer.
Your family is nucking futs. They are gaslighting you. They are frighteningly controlled by the rhetoric to think that you expressing support will fire up the mobs. Remind them of Germany 1944. They are over reacting.
No, you were friendly towards their neighbor. The fact that he’s afraid now, is his problem, not yours.
You were being neighborly. Whenever we meet someone, we always try to find mutual interests and are generally attracted to people we have things in common with. You didn't screw up, and you should assure your Grandparents that Trump supporters are not violent people.
You absolutely have no need to apologize for complimenting someone’s shirt. That’s sounds crazy.
Nah, they’re over reacting.
“Afraid for their safety” means they are already off the deep end. Don’t sweat it.
Your grandfather sounds irrational. Also, he sounds like an authoritarian leftist not a liberal. A true liberal would encourage everyone to "do their own thing" even if they disagreed. If anything your friendly interaction probably alleviates some tension between neighbors. TDS is a hell of a drug. Sorry you have to deal with it.
I would just let it go. That was way over dramatic. My grandfather would have heard me say "nice shirt, I can't believe people actually support the other creep"
Wait, Gramps is afraid for his safety from a neighbor who freely and openly wears a Trump shirt?
What about you?
How old are you?
Family like yourself are not “guests”
Time to decouple from these Commies
Never apologize for speaking your mind. Never be afraid to voice your opinion. I understand where they’re coming from given the state of the country, but they’re way less likely to have something bad happen to them by a trump supporter than the alternative. No apologies.
No you’re fine. They’re overreacting. I work with customers every day and still talk politics (despite that being like the one thing you shouldn’t do with customers) because I’ll always stay civil. If they don’t that’s on them not you
You paid the neighbor a compliment on her shirt and that makes your grandparents afraid for their safety? They are still free to "keep their relationship with those people apolitical," but the neighbor obviously isn't interested in keeping her relationship with her various neighbors strictly apolitical, or she wouldn't be wearing a Trump T-shirt around her property, so it's absurd to think that you've somehow damaged your grandparents' relationship with their neighbor.
Sounds like Gramps knows his candidate sucks.
While it is their house, Gramps overheard a private conversation.
You might tell Gramps you are sorry that you upset him, but that you fear for a Biden/Harris Administration.
Interesting.
So your grandfather thinks that being labeled a Trump supporter endangers his safety? Maybe that is the reason right there he should distance himself of the left: they have a strict record of violence and genocide.
If your grandfather will appease the mob out of fear he should buy a ticket to gtfo or find himself a master and start picking cotton. Not worthy to be a citizen.
You did nothing wrong. I will be diplomatic and say yes your grandfather was being massively overdramatic. It is completely disrespectful for them to police someone's interactions with other people.
Their House. Their rules. Apologize or leave. Your choice.
I know that's not what you expected, but that was the way I was brought up.
Whether their rules are right is an entirely different matter.
They apparently didn't announce this rule in advance, so it's really quite unreasonable for them to expect an apology from their adult grandchild for telling the neighbor he liked her Trump T-shirt. Going forward, it would be appropriate for OP to abide by the rule, now that he's been informed of it, but no apology is warranted.
There’s no “rule” for you to adhere to!
Grandpa’s backyard is not an entity with binding rules of conduct for political social or religious affiliation!
Leave and only come back for the funeral if at all!
Apologies aren't always for breaking rules. Sometimes they are for reaching out for reconciliation for causing unintended problems.
I'm sorry for your loss can be considered an apology or an acknowledgement of sharing pain. I'm using it in this manner.
Point taken. In this situation, it seems to me that an explicit apology might just encourage more unreasonable and unhealthy demands, and there was really no problem created. I'd feel differently if OP had been running around the grandparents' yard in a Trump shirt or hat and striking up conversations with neighbors who happened to be out in their yards. But he just acknowledged the neighbor's Trump shirt in a positive way, so in no way creating a conflict where there had previously been none. Under the circumstances, I feel like it would be more appropriate to say something like "I didn't realize it would be a problem, but I'll make sure not to bring up anything political with any of your neighbors again." But of course, there's a larger context of the relationship between the grandparents and OP that we're not familiar with, and I'm not going say no way in hell should OP apologize.
I would definitely talk to them and be truthful by saying you didn't realize what you said would be an issue. You can apologize for creating the situation without apologizing for your beliefs, Offer to leave if speaking out is that important to you or stay if not. That's YOUR choice.
But when considering that option, remember that they won't be around that much longer.