I live in Connecticut, there hasn't been real riots here, just an uptick in violent crime, so yes, there definitely is a bubble here. But even I have enough sense to know that Proud Boys don't exclude people based on the color of their skin.
And he even flipped it back by saying that antifa is where the REAL violence is.
They tried to get him to say proud boys were white supremacy and he flipped it and exposed the real white supremacists which is antifa. Antifa people literally believe that white people hold a superior position in the world and then use that as an excuse to reorder everyone. Black people above the whites, asians can't go to college. Whites have to work harder to compete against people who should be in a school that fits them better so they are more likely to succeed. And it shouldn't be a school thats been taken over by antifa marxist ideology.
They tried to swoop in a quick one and trump saw it and then talked about how antifa was the real problem. They were trying to interrupt him the whole time of course but thats what happened. Best president.
Not blacks above whites. Blacks used as a tool to beat down insubordinate whites. Nobody is above the virtuous white SJW in their minds. They know what’s best. But if blacks forget their place and start embracing conservative ideology, they show their true racist thoughts.
Yup and if anyone disagrees I use BLM as my example. They only actually care about black lives if they're liberal antifa type and even then I think they only care most about blacks when they can use their deaths to push gun control, reparations, or how the white man becomes a cop specifically to kill black people. You never see "black leaders" like al Sharpton do anything except trying to convince black people that the white man is holding them down, passing laws like welfare and unfair court systems so the jobs dissapear and families fall apart so you'll vote for them to come and fix all the problems they created.
Around here we dont care about black lives, we dont care about white lives, because all lives matter, black matter, white matter, whatever you look like good or bad it doesn't matter not because of skin color but because how smart they are is more important than what they look like. we all love the consitution which also says the right to bear arms shall not be infringed and that you can't arrest me for saying what I just said. 1st amendment.
"You can't care about white lives until you care about black lives" is bullshit because its straight out of geroge Orwell animal farm where "all animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others" and even worse in the fact that blms standards for making blacks equal to whites is to genocide whites by "raising their taxes and making them give their things to blacks as reparations" all while not telling you that even if they had a job to give you they'd give it to a trans person before a white or black.
Thank god we're not lefties because around here we hire who is best for the job and thats why joe biden is going to lose 🙌🙏
I explained literally how antifa are closer to white supremacists than anyone else pal. They literally think white people are superior and thats what's holding black people down and thats why they want reparations. If you don't think that doesn't make them white supremacists then good luck living in lala land wherever white supremacist you see has a white hood on. Thats not how it it in reality. Blm and antifa are WORSE THAN THE KKK and the KKK was literally also democrats. So why are you telling me there's no white supermacists when there is, they just aren't who everyone wants you to think.
So yes, they are white supremacists. They believe white people to be privileged. They're also morons so they'll believe in any "privilege" be it white, Hispanic or black. Blacks have privilege compared to trans in antifas deranged looney world. Men to women, rich to poor. Theyre still closer to white supremacists than anyone they've ever attempted to slander as a white supremacist and im sticking to that. Closest thing I've ever seen to white supremacy is antifa and blm.
What do you have against jews buddy? They were pedophiles and felons more than they were jews
Probably the best response I heard all night. He didn't call them white supremacist, and basically told them to stand by, as in we might need you later.
I wish he would've just said, "I disavow white supremacists". Exactly like he did right after charlottesville. He's said it several times already, it's bullshit they asked again, but he should've just said it before they threw the proud boys in there. The proud boys are run by a Latino for gods sake!
No what he did was way better. He asked for specific examples of groups to condemn. The cuck moderator didn’t have any and that ended that question real fast.
That was some disgusting shit from Wallace; asking Trump to condemn Kyle on stage. That made my skin crawl almost as much as Biden implying the violence stops if he gets elected. I knew Wallace was a tds pos but this was beyond the pale.
Why should he say it again? They just keep making him say it over and over and over and then never acknowledge that he keeps saying it, while they refuse to condemn antifa and BLM terrorism.
Saying it again would be a cuck move. Im glad he didnt.
I wish he had loudly asked joe to condemn antifa explicitly right then.
So you wish he would've said something he's already said multiple times. And what would have changed? Do you think they would've taken him at his word this time? You know the answer to that... SMDH.
it was a bullshit question. wallace is a real asshole and a shit journalist. he knows the full Trump quote from charlottesville and still went this route with the white supremacist crap.
They asked him to condemn militias, but they wouldn't even be necessary if the people like the Governor of Wisconsin would call in the guard and protect businesses and private property.
This is an old game. Militias, even the actual meth-smoking right wing white supremacist ones, usually swear to uphold the constitution. They can't have people fighting back when they make unconstitutional decisions.
He should have said, “I disavow any violence, and specifically white supremacist violence. Is my struggle session over now? Can we get back to the debate?”
What “white supremacist” violence? That is just some phantom hysteria the left reeees about. And he should disavow that “specifically”? Where is this “white supremacist” violence by Trump supporters that he even needs to disavow? I understand the desire for him to just disavow it, even though it is nonsense, but he’s done that dozens of times now for many years and it never matters. And all it really does is reinforce this idea that there is something to disavow, when there isn’t. Also, I think Trump is done throwing white people under the bus like that. “Oh just say it, disavow it, and move on. It doesn’t matter if it is a lie. It doesn’t matter if it demonizes white people. Just do the little dance the left wants you to do.” That is basically the thought process people have. And I think it may be a losing strategy. It puts us on the defensive and all it does is make the left more convinced we are white supremacists. I think this is also why Trump didn’t bother correcting the Fine People Hoax. All it would do is force him to use his time debunking another lie about something he never said.
I’m with you on that. Is there ANY evidence that there is white supremacist violence plaguing the country? If anyone has some good resources I’d like to hear it. This narrative keeps being spread by the MSM and I keep looking like the John Travolta gif of him looking around and shrugging
Trump missed the opportunity. I did not even notice him say "sure" the first time I watched the footage. Trump is not good at bringing clarity to the relentless lie that he just failed to nail for all time.
Don’t be naive and think yet another disavowal from Trump would FINALLY set the record straight. They aren’t interested in that. He could have literally said, “I disavow white supremacists” over and over again all night as his only statement for every answer and the corporate media would say that Trump confirmed his support of white supremacists.
He could of said it. He didn't. YES, the left would still promote the lie...but at least Trump would of said it clearly...,.but it was not done. Now the Q is plastered across MSM world wide.
So how many times will be the magical number when he has finally disavowed it enough? He’s at about fifty times right now. Will one hundred disavowals be enough? 200? 1000? Just give a number when you think the disavowal will finally count with the left and they will stop calling him a white supremacist? If you are willing to give me a reasonable number after which he no longer has to disavow, then I might change my mind. But if the number is infinite, then, no, we’re putting our foot down. These assholes do not have the moral high ground. We don’t have to keep dancing for them an infinite number of times.
Also, read the transcript. He did disavow when Chris Wallace asked. Of course, now there is a new request. Now he needs to disavow “more emphatically”. He needs to enunciate the sentence correctly and until he meets the subjective approval of the Democrats, the disavowal will not be considered “binding”.
Unfortunately he could have ended most of the times (he has to repeat it) during the debate with a HUGE HUGE audience. He didn't do it anywhere near conclusively enough...and thus we had world wide news dominance over the last day.
I don't even know who these Proud Boys are supposed to be. Are they the ones in Portland looting,burning,pulling people from cars, and assaulting the police and random people on the street. If they're terrorizing people and businesses then it's not a peaceful protest. It's terrorism and they need to be dealt with.
I did. He cut off Wallace at the pass halfway through the question. He can't bring clarity to a question based on a lie as a premise. That's one of the reasons the logicians hated the rhetorical camp with a passion (it's a dumb as rocks rhetorical strategy that there's no counter to because it's an emotional appeal that works almost without fail).
Don't bother explaining it to him. He's essentially made the same comment multiple times and thinks he has all the answers. A lot of that going on tonight.
I noticed a lot of "pedes" repeating the fine people hoax and claiming trump didn't condemn white supremacy tonight as well. I haven't looked through their histories because the memes are so hot, I can't keep up with those nevermind deporting shills.
I don't trust that much of the audience herd Trump say "sure" whilst Wallace was speaking. Not enough clarity when I clear message needed to be delivered IMHO.
That's fine, I wouldn't put it past some broadcasters to tone down the audio on that response like they mess with the colors. I heard it as clearly as wallace asked the question and it stood out to me on RSBN but I get what you're saying.
Meanwhile millions of leftists are still promoting "very fine people" whilst accounts of Trump speaking otherwise are very hard to find via Google. The left know how to take nations down, and I respect them for it. Even though I dislike their politics. I have little respect for the CANTs.
armed militias protecting property are lumped in with white supremacists?
thats some serious left wing conflation by wallace, terrible fucking moderator
Absolutely retarded. Wallace even said trump interrupted more. Yet wallace was debating trump at one point more than biden even got to debate.
Its like Chris wallace just took Joe bidens spot and debated for him.
shows you that those people dont brush with us, they live in their little bubbles
That bubble is called Connecticut.
I live in Connecticut, there hasn't been real riots here, just an uptick in violent crime, so yes, there definitely is a bubble here. But even I have enough sense to know that Proud Boys don't exclude people based on the color of their skin.
He wasn't a moderator at all. It was a 2-vs-1 gang up on Trump
2 vs 1,
Trump being the 2 ; Biden and the moderator combined barely make a 1, and that 1 is heavily favored towards the moderator
even worse human being.
Real tired of hearing the Proud Boys referred to as white supremacists
Especially when their leadership is black, Puerto Rican, and hispanic predominately.
Is it really? I seriously know nothing about them
https://proudboysusa.com/tenets/
https://thedonald.win/p/HY7Vmxym/x/c/17sPBFoeUH
Their former Treasurer was blacker than Wesley Snipes.
Several of their chapter leaders are black and hispanic.
http://archive.is/tWKcj
Central Valley Proud Boys is lead by Gabriel Silva
Not a woketard = GENOCIDAL NAZI
It's beyond annoying, as there's little to no evidence supporting the claim, yet morons lap it up.
Is Gavin the first terrorist leader to stick a dildo up his ass on camera?
And he didn’t do it. 🇺🇸
And he even flipped it back by saying that antifa is where the REAL violence is.
They tried to get him to say proud boys were white supremacy and he flipped it and exposed the real white supremacists which is antifa. Antifa people literally believe that white people hold a superior position in the world and then use that as an excuse to reorder everyone. Black people above the whites, asians can't go to college. Whites have to work harder to compete against people who should be in a school that fits them better so they are more likely to succeed. And it shouldn't be a school thats been taken over by antifa marxist ideology.
They tried to swoop in a quick one and trump saw it and then talked about how antifa was the real problem. They were trying to interrupt him the whole time of course but thats what happened. Best president.
Not blacks above whites. Blacks used as a tool to beat down insubordinate whites. Nobody is above the virtuous white SJW in their minds. They know what’s best. But if blacks forget their place and start embracing conservative ideology, they show their true racist thoughts.
Yup and if anyone disagrees I use BLM as my example. They only actually care about black lives if they're liberal antifa type and even then I think they only care most about blacks when they can use their deaths to push gun control, reparations, or how the white man becomes a cop specifically to kill black people. You never see "black leaders" like al Sharpton do anything except trying to convince black people that the white man is holding them down, passing laws like welfare and unfair court systems so the jobs dissapear and families fall apart so you'll vote for them to come and fix all the problems they created.
Around here we dont care about black lives, we dont care about white lives, because all lives matter, black matter, white matter, whatever you look like good or bad it doesn't matter not because of skin color but because how smart they are is more important than what they look like. we all love the consitution which also says the right to bear arms shall not be infringed and that you can't arrest me for saying what I just said. 1st amendment.
"You can't care about white lives until you care about black lives" is bullshit because its straight out of geroge Orwell animal farm where "all animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others" and even worse in the fact that blms standards for making blacks equal to whites is to genocide whites by "raising their taxes and making them give their things to blacks as reparations" all while not telling you that even if they had a job to give you they'd give it to a trans person before a white or black.
Thank god we're not lefties because around here we hire who is best for the job and thats why joe biden is going to lose 🙌🙏
Kyle shot three Antifa members who all happened to be Jews. There are no white supremacists, dude,
I explained literally how antifa are closer to white supremacists than anyone else pal. They literally think white people are superior and thats what's holding black people down and thats why they want reparations. If you don't think that doesn't make them white supremacists then good luck living in lala land wherever white supremacist you see has a white hood on. Thats not how it it in reality. Blm and antifa are WORSE THAN THE KKK and the KKK was literally also democrats. So why are you telling me there's no white supermacists when there is, they just aren't who everyone wants you to think.
So yes, they are white supremacists. They believe white people to be privileged. They're also morons so they'll believe in any "privilege" be it white, Hispanic or black. Blacks have privilege compared to trans in antifas deranged looney world. Men to women, rich to poor. Theyre still closer to white supremacists than anyone they've ever attempted to slander as a white supremacist and im sticking to that. Closest thing I've ever seen to white supremacy is antifa and blm.
What do you have against jews buddy? They were pedophiles and felons more than they were jews
He told them to stand down, and stand by.
Probably the best response I heard all night. He didn't call them white supremacist, and basically told them to stand by, as in we might need you later.
I wish he would've just said, "I disavow white supremacists". Exactly like he did right after charlottesville. He's said it several times already, it's bullshit they asked again, but he should've just said it before they threw the proud boys in there. The proud boys are run by a Latino for gods sake!
No what he did was way better. He asked for specific examples of groups to condemn. The cuck moderator didn’t have any and that ended that question real fast.
Yeah that was WAY better. Proud Boys and Kenosha Kid.
Neither are white supremacists.
Very smart move by Trump
That was some disgusting shit from Wallace; asking Trump to condemn Kyle on stage. That made my skin crawl almost as much as Biden implying the violence stops if he gets elected. I knew Wallace was a tds pos but this was beyond the pale.
Yea... you know... all those damned white supremacists... burning down and rioting and causing chaos in our cities... all of those ones...
Why should he say it again? They just keep making him say it over and over and over and then never acknowledge that he keeps saying it, while they refuse to condemn antifa and BLM terrorism.
Saying it again would be a cuck move. Im glad he didnt.
I wish he had loudly asked joe to condemn antifa explicitly right then.
So you wish he would've said something he's already said multiple times. And what would have changed? Do you think they would've taken him at his word this time? You know the answer to that... SMDH.
You second guessers are a funny lot.
he does not and should not ever answer "gotcha" questions. period. whether he answers the question or not they will call him a racist either way
I heard the order.
it was a bullshit question. wallace is a real asshole and a shit journalist. he knows the full Trump quote from charlottesville and still went this route with the white supremacist crap.
Yes he did. The BS narrative stays intact.
They asked him to condemn militias, but they wouldn't even be necessary if the people like the Governor of Wisconsin would call in the guard and protect businesses and private property.
This is an old game. Militias, even the actual meth-smoking right wing white supremacist ones, usually swear to uphold the constitution. They can't have people fighting back when they make unconstitutional decisions.
Wallace works for CNN,right? ;)
Proud Boys Stand back and stand by...
Proud👏 Boys👏 are👏 not👏 white👏 supremacists. They have black and brown and trannies and fags in the PBs.
They try to say wearing Hawaiian shirts is a white supremacist group. Like wtf!
He should have said, “I disavow any violence, and specifically white supremacist violence. Is my struggle session over now? Can we get back to the debate?”
What “white supremacist” violence? That is just some phantom hysteria the left reeees about. And he should disavow that “specifically”? Where is this “white supremacist” violence by Trump supporters that he even needs to disavow? I understand the desire for him to just disavow it, even though it is nonsense, but he’s done that dozens of times now for many years and it never matters. And all it really does is reinforce this idea that there is something to disavow, when there isn’t. Also, I think Trump is done throwing white people under the bus like that. “Oh just say it, disavow it, and move on. It doesn’t matter if it is a lie. It doesn’t matter if it demonizes white people. Just do the little dance the left wants you to do.” That is basically the thought process people have. And I think it may be a losing strategy. It puts us on the defensive and all it does is make the left more convinced we are white supremacists. I think this is also why Trump didn’t bother correcting the Fine People Hoax. All it would do is force him to use his time debunking another lie about something he never said.
I’m with you on that. Is there ANY evidence that there is white supremacist violence plaguing the country? If anyone has some good resources I’d like to hear it. This narrative keeps being spread by the MSM and I keep looking like the John Travolta gif of him looking around and shrugging
That would have been ideal. But I like that he didn’t cower and grovel like every other spineless Republican who’s accused of racism and dog whistling
This is a cuck move.white supremacy idea is not what is dominating the streets.he did the best move;that question is a tricky question.
Trump should have said, yes I disavow white supremacist groups, such as antifa.
Trump missed the opportunity. I did not even notice him say "sure" the first time I watched the footage. Trump is not good at bringing clarity to the relentless lie that he just failed to nail for all time.
Don’t be naive and think yet another disavowal from Trump would FINALLY set the record straight. They aren’t interested in that. He could have literally said, “I disavow white supremacists” over and over again all night as his only statement for every answer and the corporate media would say that Trump confirmed his support of white supremacists.
He could of said it. He didn't. YES, the left would still promote the lie...but at least Trump would of said it clearly...,.but it was not done. Now the Q is plastered across MSM world wide.
So how many times will be the magical number when he has finally disavowed it enough? He’s at about fifty times right now. Will one hundred disavowals be enough? 200? 1000? Just give a number when you think the disavowal will finally count with the left and they will stop calling him a white supremacist? If you are willing to give me a reasonable number after which he no longer has to disavow, then I might change my mind. But if the number is infinite, then, no, we’re putting our foot down. These assholes do not have the moral high ground. We don’t have to keep dancing for them an infinite number of times.
Also, read the transcript. He did disavow when Chris Wallace asked. Of course, now there is a new request. Now he needs to disavow “more emphatically”. He needs to enunciate the sentence correctly and until he meets the subjective approval of the Democrats, the disavowal will not be considered “binding”.
Unfortunately he could have ended most of the times (he has to repeat it) during the debate with a HUGE HUGE audience. He didn't do it anywhere near conclusively enough...and thus we had world wide news dominance over the last day.
He doesn’t need to say it;what he did was good.
Fuck Chris Wallace
I don't even know who these Proud Boys are supposed to be. Are they the ones in Portland looting,burning,pulling people from cars, and assaulting the police and random people on the street. If they're terrorizing people and businesses then it's not a peaceful protest. It's terrorism and they need to be dealt with.
that was a weird one
so was wallace saying that white supremacist militias were in Kenosha? WTH? Is that really the mainstream narrative?
"Stand By"
"stand down and stand by"
Why didn't they ask Biden to disavow antifa?
They really pisses me off when they do that.
Proud boys arent racist. Never were. Its the boogeyman strategy.
How come Wallace didnt ask Biden to disavow David Duke or Richard Spencer, who support biden.
I did. He cut off Wallace at the pass halfway through the question. He can't bring clarity to a question based on a lie as a premise. That's one of the reasons the logicians hated the rhetorical camp with a passion (it's a dumb as rocks rhetorical strategy that there's no counter to because it's an emotional appeal that works almost without fail).
Don't bother explaining it to him. He's essentially made the same comment multiple times and thinks he has all the answers. A lot of that going on tonight.
I noticed a lot of "pedes" repeating the fine people hoax and claiming trump didn't condemn white supremacy tonight as well. I haven't looked through their histories because the memes are so hot, I can't keep up with those nevermind deporting shills.
I don't trust that much of the audience herd Trump say "sure" whilst Wallace was speaking. Not enough clarity when I clear message needed to be delivered IMHO.
That's fine, I wouldn't put it past some broadcasters to tone down the audio on that response like they mess with the colors. I heard it as clearly as wallace asked the question and it stood out to me on RSBN but I get what you're saying.
Meanwhile millions of leftists are still promoting "very fine people" whilst accounts of Trump speaking otherwise are very hard to find via Google. The left know how to take nations down, and I respect them for it. Even though I dislike their politics. I have little respect for the CANTs.
what's a CANTs?
RepubliCANTs vs DemoRATs
True. Blackpillers and Rinos are stabs to the back whereas the marxists/democrats tell you to your face they want to kill you.