I have to be honest, Biden did way better than I expected. My wife was put off a lot by Trump's interruptions, especially early, and felt he should have been better even though she recognized how crooked Wallace was. For example, we both agree on that "you didn't have a plan" assertion that Trump should've let Wallace finish the question, then immediately ripped into him for it. It would've played better.

We're still both crawling over broken glass to vote Trump, but I'm sad to say I think Biden did all right with any independents watching. I was hoping to see a more dramatic collapse but his handlers did a great job prepping him.

Fuck him for repeating the "very fine people" hoax, though.