He had Wallace to help him. He also probably hadn't quite a bit of drugs in him. He messed up a lot, and I think he actually did quite poorly as I expected. Wallace saved him from the train wrecks by slowing down the train. Yeah, he was able to hold sentences, but he was also a disaster
Joe lost it after the faux outrage concerning his son Beau. He lost his edge, slowed down and let Trump get out a couple of longer segments without interruption.
Trump did a good job defending Chris’s tactic of snuffing out rebuttals. By constantly yammering while Joe was trying to talk, it prevented him from getting traction and forced Joe to fall back on name calling. Labeling Trump a clown just didn’t stick.
Every time Trump hammered Joe and catch him Wallace would interrupt. Joe deflected answering questions blatantly and would jump into different subjects and canned hits. Yes Biden did better than drooling and pissing his pants. Yes the media will and already saying Biden did better. But watching for substance Biden was unable to handle the pressure and started wearing down after 30 to 40 minutes in.
Right about the time he started reading the “3 ways” you hurt this country from his notes. Then the animated story about his son Beau, he lost a grip and never got it back.
I do agree in terms of how it was perceived initially. However the more time passes the more ads can be made from some of the blatant/obvious lies he said. So in retrospect I think he will have done worse, than it seems now.
(just to be precise: Calling the military stupid bastards and him denying it is a very nice and effective ~15s ad.)
No serious person thought Biden was going to stroke out on TV. That talking point was seeded by the left to establish the lowest bar for debate competence in history. We have to judge it on what actually happened: Trump debated and won handily against an average politician opponent. I do believe Biden is suffering from long term mental decline, but it’s easy to pull it together for an hour (drug induced or otherwise)
hope Kelley Anne SUES biden for his slander and that is front page news for the next month.... hard and don't let up. do the talk circuits and everything. she can go on the view and ask them why they think biden would lie about her....... lol
She needs to start any ass whipping (oratorical, of course) should be gin with 'I'm not his spokesperson, I don't have the talent or the patience that the two fine women who have been in that role for President Trump...." and eat a bag of dicks or something more polite, but conveying the same point.
Needs to compliment these great women but also call out he has no idea who does what for Trump. Has probably not idea who is in the cabinet - that would be a great question. Which of his cabinet secretaries do you believe is doing a poor job, why, and what would you change?
If Hiden didn't have Wallace loading the questions for him, and softballing on the responses, it would have been a solid joke! Hiden survived because of Wallace, and that's it...
Biden talked to his voters, Trump talked to Wallace. Nothing substantial came out of Biden's mouth that had the same 47 year nothingburger. All a bunch.of lies and promises you can't keep.
He did alright. Wasn't horrible, but that's a low bar. The takeaway for most people if they are actually deciding still is: Joe will shut us back down, Trump wants to keep us open (and said I think the people can take care of themselves, they know what to do and we've all learned a lot in the last 5 months).
I think people will vote on this basic ying/yang. Open or close?
He had Wallace to help him. He also probably hadn't quite a bit of drugs in him. He messed up a lot, and I think he actually did quite poorly as I expected. Wallace saved him from the train wrecks by slowing down the train. Yeah, he was able to hold sentences, but he was also a disaster
Joe lost it after the faux outrage concerning his son Beau. He lost his edge, slowed down and let Trump get out a couple of longer segments without interruption.
Trump did a good job defending Chris’s tactic of snuffing out rebuttals. By constantly yammering while Joe was trying to talk, it prevented him from getting traction and forced Joe to fall back on name calling. Labeling Trump a clown just didn’t stick.
Joe finished weak. Trump finished strong.
^Exactly. The teacher's Pet did well....
Every time Trump hammered Joe and catch him Wallace would interrupt. Joe deflected answering questions blatantly and would jump into different subjects and canned hits. Yes Biden did better than drooling and pissing his pants. Yes the media will and already saying Biden did better. But watching for substance Biden was unable to handle the pressure and started wearing down after 30 to 40 minutes in.
Right about the time he started reading the “3 ways” you hurt this country from his notes. Then the animated story about his son Beau, he lost a grip and never got it back.
I do agree in terms of how it was perceived initially. However the more time passes the more ads can be made from some of the blatant/obvious lies he said. So in retrospect I think he will have done worse, than it seems now.
(just to be precise: Calling the military stupid bastards and him denying it is a very nice and effective ~15s ad.)
He addressed the American public directly. It was as good as he could have hoped to have done.
No serious person thought Biden was going to stroke out on TV. That talking point was seeded by the left to establish the lowest bar for debate competence in history. We have to judge it on what actually happened: Trump debated and won handily against an average politician opponent. I do believe Biden is suffering from long term mental decline, but it’s easy to pull it together for an hour (drug induced or otherwise)
hope Kelley Anne SUES biden for his slander and that is front page news for the next month.... hard and don't let up. do the talk circuits and everything. she can go on the view and ask them why they think biden would lie about her....... lol
She needs to start any ass whipping (oratorical, of course) should be gin with 'I'm not his spokesperson, I don't have the talent or the patience that the two fine women who have been in that role for President Trump...." and eat a bag of dicks or something more polite, but conveying the same point.
Needs to compliment these great women but also call out he has no idea who does what for Trump. Has probably not idea who is in the cabinet - that would be a great question. Which of his cabinet secretaries do you believe is doing a poor job, why, and what would you change?
But they wouldn't in a million years ask a legit question that could focus on policy.. God forbid
If Hiden didn't have Wallace loading the questions for him, and softballing on the responses, it would have been a solid joke! Hiden survived because of Wallace, and that's it...
Biden talked to his voters, Trump talked to Wallace. Nothing substantial came out of Biden's mouth that had the same 47 year nothingburger. All a bunch.of lies and promises you can't keep.
He did alright. Wasn't horrible, but that's a low bar. The takeaway for most people if they are actually deciding still is: Joe will shut us back down, Trump wants to keep us open (and said I think the people can take care of themselves, they know what to do and we've all learned a lot in the last 5 months).
I think people will vote on this basic ying/yang. Open or close?
Yup. I'm going to sleep VERY disappointed in this debate.