Spot on. I don't know how this strategy will hold until the election but I guess we'll see. Trump split Biden's progressive base (most of that damage was already done to be honest), but he got him clearly on camera in front of millions having a shot at Bernie, dissing the green new deal and socialized healthcare.
Also Trump brought Biden down to his level. Trump was always going to be aggressive it's who he is and those chips have been on the table now for 4 years. Seeing Biden get down and dirty contradicts his "decency" shtick big time. I'm seeing a lot more arguments that I saw in October/November 2016 about both candidates being bad, undesirable etc. This massively helps Trump. Almost no Trump voters will be changing their vote, but left progressives will and unenthusiastic voters will too.
If you want a calm, cool, dispassionate candidate who will be composed and level headed, neither candidate will please you. Anyone considering Biden can no longer declare his temperament superior. Both are rude, angry men.
If you want a candidate willing to get in there with force of personality and get things dirty and raw and messy, both went for it, but Trump won that angle hands down.
Trump and Biden are playing the same character type, Trump just does it better.
You know, you have a point. I work with hospital patients and the debate was on in one of the rooms last night. I asked how it was going, they said “just as you’d expect, two old men bickering with each other”. Didn’t think much of it at first but realized they weren’t talking about how well Biden was doing.
I completely agree. Ever since Biden started telling voters that they're full of shit and calling them "lying dog faced pony soldiers" I've been saying he's basically Will Ferrel in the other guys saying to his campaign manager, "Ohhh I thought you said 'Bad Cop/Bad Cop". He's basically doing a very poor Trump imitation hoping to get the same results he did in 2016, but the exact opposite would probably be the best approach.
Mike Pence is actually a damn likeable man. Harris is a snake and her record is going to come out. Mike is also a SMOOOOTH talker. He's probably going to turn even more people Red
This ☝ my duck faggot friend whobdoesnt like Trump and can't admit it because he thinks he's libertarian and edgy, is doing the same. Some libertarian who supposedly has some damn good policies but isn't our GEOTUS.
I don't GAF. They don't vote Biden that's good enough.
Also...
Does anyone know if Kanye is still on the ballots in like, 3 states???
Trump's entire strategy is to cut through the Democratic coalition.
That's why the minority outreach is having such positive returns, a +5% gain with Black voters in 2020 from 2016 is huge, combine it with +8% with Hispanics, game over.
Shave off at the margins, but overall the Republican reachout to Dem base like this will reverberate for decades. If the Black vote eventually gets split 75-25 or 80-20 in another cycle or two, the racism racket is done. The Dem cartel is defeated. The whole reason they do this nonsense is to deflect issues. Can't run the racism gambit if suddenly GOP has a significant block of loyal Black voters.
Spot on. I don't know how this strategy will hold until the election but I guess we'll see. Trump split Biden's progressive base (most of that damage was already done to be honest), but he got him clearly on camera in front of millions having a shot at Bernie, dissing the green new deal and socialized healthcare.
Also Trump brought Biden down to his level. Trump was always going to be aggressive it's who he is and those chips have been on the table now for 4 years. Seeing Biden get down and dirty contradicts his "decency" shtick big time. I'm seeing a lot more arguments that I saw in October/November 2016 about both candidates being bad, undesirable etc. This massively helps Trump. Almost no Trump voters will be changing their vote, but left progressives will and unenthusiastic voters will too.
These are really good arguments and changed my view on the debate.
If you want a calm, cool, dispassionate candidate who will be composed and level headed, neither candidate will please you. Anyone considering Biden can no longer declare his temperament superior. Both are rude, angry men.
If you want a candidate willing to get in there with force of personality and get things dirty and raw and messy, both went for it, but Trump won that angle hands down.
Trump and Biden are playing the same character type, Trump just does it better.
You know, you have a point. I work with hospital patients and the debate was on in one of the rooms last night. I asked how it was going, they said “just as you’d expect, two old men bickering with each other”. Didn’t think much of it at first but realized they weren’t talking about how well Biden was doing.
I completely agree. Ever since Biden started telling voters that they're full of shit and calling them "lying dog faced pony soldiers" I've been saying he's basically Will Ferrel in the other guys saying to his campaign manager, "Ohhh I thought you said 'Bad Cop/Bad Cop". He's basically doing a very poor Trump imitation hoping to get the same results he did in 2016, but the exact opposite would probably be the best approach.
Truth. Just imagine for a second if Pence was running against Trump. Pence would have walked away last night as a hero
Mike Pence is actually a damn likeable man. Harris is a snake and her record is going to come out. Mike is also a SMOOOOTH talker. He's probably going to turn even more people Red
Bernie bro co-worker said “fuck em both”
He’s gonna sit out or write in someone I’ve never heard of
To which I whispered to myself... “good...good”
or vote for Trump and never tell a soul
heh
Does he know you’re a trump supporter, tell him you want to vote third party too!
This ☝ my duck faggot friend whobdoesnt like Trump and can't admit it because he thinks he's libertarian and edgy, is doing the same. Some libertarian who supposedly has some damn good policies but isn't our GEOTUS.
I don't GAF. They don't vote Biden that's good enough.
Also...
Does anyone know if Kanye is still on the ballots in like, 3 states???
Yeezy? Are you there?
Trump's entire strategy is to cut through the Democratic coalition.
That's why the minority outreach is having such positive returns, a +5% gain with Black voters in 2020 from 2016 is huge, combine it with +8% with Hispanics, game over.
Shave off at the margins, but overall the Republican reachout to Dem base like this will reverberate for decades. If the Black vote eventually gets split 75-25 or 80-20 in another cycle or two, the racism racket is done. The Dem cartel is defeated. The whole reason they do this nonsense is to deflect issues. Can't run the racism gambit if suddenly GOP has a significant block of loyal Black voters.
Yes
If "systemic racism" card burns up, they're out of a job