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ObamasLooseButthole 344 points ago +345 / -1

Now that I think back to it he did keep bringing the leftist ideas up to get Biden to step away from them. Then following up with how Biden was losing his leftist support.

Holy shit.

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Constitution_jd 254 points ago +254 / -0

Trump was trying to create as many situations where he could drive a wedge between the Bernie wing and the Biden wing of the Dems. And he was successful. Biden got here through a unity pact with Bernie that he has now completely abandoned on the debate stage.

How many lefties are saying "fuck this, I'll stay home then"?

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ImpeachImpaired 9 points ago +10 / -1

Not as many as we are hoping I fear. I think actually he could be trying to keep fence sitters from showing up which would hurt biden more than it hurts him. If fence sitters are low info voters they might check biden just because. Last night might have been just to make it so exhausting that independents stay home and its just duking it out between bases.