They openly fly neo-nazi flags. That would be the majority of their activists, not the minority. White "nationalism" means seperatism by race. Let's not mince words here, none of them would or should disagree with me that they are interested in secession.
That black nationalists are tolerated and promoted is a bigger problem for me than a some white people that want to self-associate as they see themselves.
BLM is a black supremacist group, humorously it's primarily compromised of racist white liberal communists. Just look into what Malcolm X had to say about white liberals.
"“The worst enemy that the Negro have is this white man that runs around here drooling at the mouth professing to love Negros and calling himself a liberal, and it is following these white liberals that has perpetuated problems that Negros have. If the Negro wasn’t taken, tricked or deceived by the white liberal, then Negros would get together and solve our own problems. I only cite these things to show you that in America, the history of the white liberal has been nothing but a series of trickery designed to make Negros think that the white liberal was going to solve our problems. Our problems will never be solved by the white man.”
You're being blatantly ignorant here by misrepresenting him. He's not responding to 'nationalism' he's responding to a more specific descriptor of 'white nationalism' and he's correct in everything he said.
If you mean your nation is a race, or "white"ness, and your loyalty is to this as a volk or nation, vs. America as an American, then yes. If you want to talk about white nationalism openly then let us be honest about what this truthfully encompasses.
Weird how what you just wrote and what was written here do not sync:
Nobody is a White Supremacist. That’s a leftist term. Some people are white nationalists and that’s their right. There is nothing wrong with loving your people and wanting to preserve your culture.
Your ad hominem falls flat and you lay there naked, exposed to truth. I see the shadow of a species of vermin, a rat.
A nationalistic idea and a white nationalistic ideology are very different.
Skitter. Skitter.
I'll add to that, vermin, that patriotism in America is loyalty to our founding principles. Not to the defeated European ideologies of the past.
kind of a related point i always try to make when all these discussions about oppression of this group and that group come up. Can you really be truly oppressed when literally all of the most powerful institutions are in your corner? academia, big tech, big media, hollywood, sports, most of the fortune 500, many policitians, etc.
In the current geopolitical climate, we can observe many Muslim Supremacists, Communist Supremacists, and Shadow Supremacists (Soros). Racial priviledge is FAR FROM favoring the Dreaded White Man.
IMO, the whole race debate is just a sham. The important factor is people that have American values. American values aren't inherently "white" values. The whole idea that you can unify a group of people based on race is not really realistic. You unify a group of people based on shared values. If people think based on "black/white/brown" etc then you will never be able to unify any group large enough to do anything. American values.....on the other hand, this is something that lots of people have regardless of race. MAGA is just an iconic representation of that since we have lots of MAGA people that are from all parts of the world and from every race. Even though we are different on an individual level, we all work together because we have the same love for American values.
Preach to the choir.blacks in Africa recognize that American culture and values majorly came from English men.there is nothing bad in adapting concepts from another culture and helping new people from a different culture to assimilate into your culture or country.i don’t like when some right-wingers always try to downplay how American cultural values don’t originate from Europe.
Right obviously those people don't have traditional values but they can still decide what values they want to have. It doesn't have to do with race. Black people can adopt American traditional values if they decide to. The same can be said for white people. Just because you're white doesn't mean you have traditional American values. ANTIFA is mostly white and has some of the most anti-american people I've ever seen.
Still, the bottom line is that it doesn't have to do with race. It is more on an individual level. The biggest problem with the black community is they don't think for themselves so they let others determine how they should act or how they should feel. The blacks that can think for themselves eventually see that conservative values are the key to moving up in the world.
Yup but still every person regardless of race ultimately develops their own value systems. Most get it from parents and surroundings but still, the individual ultimately decides.
The only white supremacy happening today are in prisons... oh also they ALL segregate themselves based on race. 😂🤣 The left is seriously DUMB AS FUCK!!
just imagine all the business owners who saw their business destroyed, all the people who were beaten up, knocked out and then stomped on, all the cops who were hurled insults, rocks and molotov cocktails...
what just happened to them was only an idea...
this is no different than joe saying trump was a xenophobe for banning travel from china at the start of the china flu! joe is always late. incapable for foreseeing the inevitable. more worried about appearing politically correct and "presidential" - nevermind if people die
That's my point. They can't have it both ways. They can't have one side of the equation be a myth and the other side be a clear and present threat. Either both sides exist, or both sides don't.
The terrorist organization ironically named anti-fascist practices decentralized cells similar to Al Qaeda. No. They're not a centralized army. Terrorism is rooted out cell by cell. Starting with the schools and book stores producing students arrested at these riots.
Interesting that Biden and Wray both use Antifa propaganda in their own words, tells me that they are both members/supporters. Both need a helicopter ride.
Don't forget, Project Veritas showed us that they have vetting of new members, workshops with powerpoint presentations, fighting instructors, secret meetings with security measures to keep them secret, and secret external leadership providing them with funding.
Round them up. Make them watch their comrades get shot one by one for treason. Only then will I consider justice rendered. I don't want my family or my children to pay to take care of these faggots. The last thing I want these traitorous Anti-American pieces of shit to feel before they die is fear.
and they wear uniforms. When I turn on the TV and see them rioting, it's easy to point out who the antifa/blm crowd is because they all wear black and cover their faces. That is their uniform.
You know what’s an idea? MAGA is an idea. The group behind MAGA is patriotic supporters of Donald Trump. If antifa is an “idea” then what do you call the group behind them?
It’s a classic bait and switch move by the left. Use the same name for something but talk about different things. It’s like how they use Black Lives Matter to mean both the movement to protect black lives but it’s also the name of a Marxist organization. The right attacks the marxists organization, the left spins it and talks about the other one saying noooo this is about black lives and nothing more.
Idk if this is gaslighting or what, but it’s a new tactic I see. It would be like Nazis pushing Hitlers ideology but instead calling themselves “Feed Starving Children” so when you call out the Nazis for their bullshit they will turn around and say “why do you hate children, so you want them to starve?”
But it is not unacceptable for HARRIS-Biden to refuse to condemn Marxist Black Supremacy or condemn terrorist, fascist ANTIFA, which they believe is not an organization but an idea.
Like ideas wander around arsoning whole cities and forests.
I used to be part of left wing circles and we call these people "ML's" or Militant Leftists and even social democrats and progressives hate them. The more you know (;
When the ML's are taking over the movement, that's when I left and joined the Trump train.
The graffiti i saw all over trashed and coincidentally mom-n-pop businesses the morning after the riots in west la calling for dead cops and the overthrow of the usa was more than an idea joe.
Saying Antifa is an idea is an egregious dodge. Antifa is an umbrella of groups, a collective generalization used to describe far left anarchist and communist groups.
White Supremacy is an idea. A stupid idea, but an idea nonetheless.
They openly fly neo-nazi flags. That would be the majority of their activists, not the minority. White "nationalism" means seperatism by race. Let's not mince words here, none of them would or should disagree with me that they are interested in secession.
That black nationalists are tolerated and promoted is a bigger problem for me than a some white people that want to self-associate as they see themselves.
The left cannot have it both ways.
Blatantly ignorant and wrong.
Definition of nationalism
1: loyalty and devotion to a nation
Learn how to define words before using them.
BLM is a black supremacist group, humorously it's primarily compromised of racist white liberal communists. Just look into what Malcolm X had to say about white liberals.
This is correct. As Brother Malcolm once said,
"“The worst enemy that the Negro have is this white man that runs around here drooling at the mouth professing to love Negros and calling himself a liberal, and it is following these white liberals that has perpetuated problems that Negros have. If the Negro wasn’t taken, tricked or deceived by the white liberal, then Negros would get together and solve our own problems. I only cite these things to show you that in America, the history of the white liberal has been nothing but a series of trickery designed to make Negros think that the white liberal was going to solve our problems. Our problems will never be solved by the white man.”
You're being blatantly ignorant here by misrepresenting him. He's not responding to 'nationalism' he's responding to a more specific descriptor of 'white nationalism' and he's correct in everything he said.
So you're defending a racist.
Got it.
Oh, you're the left calling a guy racist based on your feelings as he deals in facts.
Got it.
Get bent FAGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTS
all ya'll cucks, shills, clingers-on, and losers - BTFO
top fucking kek, you bitch.
And?
He's done it numerous times.
This is nothing new.
Start paying attention you shit-stain fucknut.
Hhahahaahha stay wrekt seditious ratfink fucktard. Maybe David Duke will make another go at LA and you can caucus for Ilhan with him after he loses.
If you mean your nation is a race, or "white"ness, and your loyalty is to this as a volk or nation, vs. America as an American, then yes. If you want to talk about white nationalism openly then let us be honest about what this truthfully encompasses.
Okay there racist.
The only person putting a race in front of nationalism is you. If you need to put a race in front of it, you're the racist.
There is nothing wrong with being a Nationalist here in America.
So get fucked.
Weird how what you just wrote and what was written here do not sync:
Your ad hominem falls flat and you lay there naked, exposed to truth. I see the shadow of a species of vermin, a rat.
A nationalistic idea and a white nationalistic ideology are very different.
Skitter. Skitter.
I'll add to that, vermin, that patriotism in America is loyalty to our founding principles. Not to the defeated European ideologies of the past.
So, you know, get bent leftists.
That’s true. I’ve lived in the South my entire life and I’ve never seen a Swastika flying anywhere.
Rightwing is not white nationalism.
kind of a related point i always try to make when all these discussions about oppression of this group and that group come up. Can you really be truly oppressed when literally all of the most powerful institutions are in your corner? academia, big tech, big media, hollywood, sports, most of the fortune 500, many policitians, etc.
It the fbi are the only ones who dont know about it wink wink
In the current geopolitical climate, we can observe many Muslim Supremacists, Communist Supremacists, and Shadow Supremacists (Soros). Racial priviledge is FAR FROM favoring the Dreaded White Man.
We live in a nation where people (Pocahontas, Talcum X) pretend to be something other than white to gain privileges.
If blacks are allowed to do it, whites should be too. If there were a law against double standards, the dems would all be in jail right now!
IMO, the whole race debate is just a sham. The important factor is people that have American values. American values aren't inherently "white" values. The whole idea that you can unify a group of people based on race is not really realistic. You unify a group of people based on shared values. If people think based on "black/white/brown" etc then you will never be able to unify any group large enough to do anything. American values.....on the other hand, this is something that lots of people have regardless of race. MAGA is just an iconic representation of that since we have lots of MAGA people that are from all parts of the world and from every race. Even though we are different on an individual level, we all work together because we have the same love for American values.
Preach to the choir.blacks in Africa recognize that American culture and values majorly came from English men.there is nothing bad in adapting concepts from another culture and helping new people from a different culture to assimilate into your culture or country.i don’t like when some right-wingers always try to downplay how American cultural values don’t originate from Europe.
Right obviously those people don't have traditional values but they can still decide what values they want to have. It doesn't have to do with race. Black people can adopt American traditional values if they decide to. The same can be said for white people. Just because you're white doesn't mean you have traditional American values. ANTIFA is mostly white and has some of the most anti-american people I've ever seen.
Still, the bottom line is that it doesn't have to do with race. It is more on an individual level. The biggest problem with the black community is they don't think for themselves so they let others determine how they should act or how they should feel. The blacks that can think for themselves eventually see that conservative values are the key to moving up in the world.
Yup but still every person regardless of race ultimately develops their own value systems. Most get it from parents and surroundings but still, the individual ultimately decides.
The only white supremacy happening today are in prisons... oh also they ALL segregate themselves based on race. 😂🤣 The left is seriously DUMB AS FUCK!!
Came here to say that. Whereas ANTIFA is an actual organization.
just imagine all the business owners who saw their business destroyed, all the people who were beaten up, knocked out and then stomped on, all the cops who were hurled insults, rocks and molotov cocktails...
what just happened to them was only an idea...
this is no different than joe saying trump was a xenophobe for banning travel from china at the start of the china flu! joe is always late. incapable for foreseeing the inevitable. more worried about appearing politically correct and "presidential" - nevermind if people die
MAGA is an idea. A really perfect, superior, excellent idea.
"You cant join white supremacy"
If Antifa is an idea and not an organization...then why does their website end in org???
http://antifa.us.org
???
If Antifa doesn't exist, then the Proud Boys can't either. There's nothing for them to fight otherwise.
If Proud Boys is the "comparison" to Antifa, then Antifa is a group because Proud Boys is a group.
That's my point. They can't have it both ways. They can't have one side of the equation be a myth and the other side be a clear and present threat. Either both sides exist, or both sides don't.
HA HA HA HA!
The terrorist organization ironically named anti-fascist practices decentralized cells similar to Al Qaeda. No. They're not a centralized army. Terrorism is rooted out cell by cell. Starting with the schools and book stores producing students arrested at these riots.
An idea that rents a Uhaul full of LARP gear.
Is this real or a parody website?
Every single person in this thread should be calling for Christopher Wray's head.
For him to say that ANTIFA is an "idea" is utterly ridiculous and he should resign immediately.
Interesting that Biden and Wray both use Antifa propaganda in their own words, tells me that they are both members/supporters. Both need a helicopter ride.
It’s a meaningless platitude to absolve them of the guilt of treason.
I see it as an attempt to romanticize their movement.
They want to act like they're Anonymous / Guy Fawkes. "If you cut one of us down two more will rise to replace us because we're just an idea mang".
Agreed. I basically said in another comment that it’s what sounds cool in Hunger Games fantasy universe movies.
And they all use one messaging app. Why? Why do they need to message each other? To, organize?
What about that Antifa/"BLM leader" who got arrested for spending $200k on donations? News articles literally call these people leaders.
What about having enough structure to organize a woman supplying shields to Antifa/BLM from a u-haul?
What about all these organizers having the same exact red and white megaphones?
Why don't they just call themselves anti-fascist? Why make a new name "Antifa"? Anti-fascist is an ideology, "Antifa" isn't.
Shitty ideas are shitty
And have a trackable communication network
Don't forget, Project Veritas showed us that they have vetting of new members, workshops with powerpoint presentations, fighting instructors, secret meetings with security measures to keep them secret, and secret external leadership providing them with funding.
I didn't realize ideas could have facebook groups and twitter accounts. How does an idea type?
"This is just punk rock culture" "the FBI doesnt designate them as a terrorist group" - That's what i'm hearing from leftards today
Round them up. Make them watch their comrades get shot one by one for treason. Only then will I consider justice rendered. I don't want my family or my children to pay to take care of these faggots. The last thing I want these traitorous Anti-American pieces of shit to feel before they die is fear.
"Hey let me stand here holding a lit 2,000 degree flare amongst a group of jostling, distracted dipshits."
soon
"MEDIC!"
TFW you are a white female that pushed a confederate statue onto a black man crushing his head
Islamism is also an idea. So is the caliphate. We went through a 20-year war against that idea.
Helicopters are just an idea.
Same funding sources.
That feeling when you get hit by a big idea:
https://thedonald.win/p/HY7TWj6O/ideas-nowadays-really-pack-a-pun/c/
They fly the flags of the Soviet Empire in opposition to the flag of the American People.
Soooooooo... Like Al-Qaeda.
These dumb kids have no idea how good they have it here. They need to spend a week in some shithole country.
Communism was also just an idea at some point, and then it killed millions of people!
and they wear uniforms. When I turn on the TV and see them rioting, it's easy to point out who the antifa/blm crowd is because they all wear black and cover their faces. That is their uniform.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_City_Antifa
Rose City Antifa (RCA) is an antifa GROUP founded 2007 in Portland, Oregon.[1] It is a leftist GROUP
I too love my race.
Why are 97% of these people pasty white fucks with neon-colored hair?
You know what’s an idea? MAGA is an idea. The group behind MAGA is patriotic supporters of Donald Trump. If antifa is an “idea” then what do you call the group behind them?
It’s a classic bait and switch move by the left. Use the same name for something but talk about different things. It’s like how they use Black Lives Matter to mean both the movement to protect black lives but it’s also the name of a Marxist organization. The right attacks the marxists organization, the left spins it and talks about the other one saying noooo this is about black lives and nothing more.
Idk if this is gaslighting or what, but it’s a new tactic I see. It would be like Nazis pushing Hitlers ideology but instead calling themselves “Feed Starving Children” so when you call out the Nazis for their bullshit they will turn around and say “why do you hate children, so you want them to starve?”
You know who else was an idea and not a group? Al-Qaeda. Neo-Nazis.
Facism is not a group it's an idea
Nazism is not a group it's an idea
An Idea went to Syria to train in combat
Who's idea was it is the real question.
But it is not unacceptable for HARRIS-Biden to refuse to condemn Marxist Black Supremacy or condemn terrorist, fascist ANTIFA, which they believe is not an organization but an idea.
Like ideas wander around arsoning whole cities and forests.
Can someone tell me what the “proud boys” are?
Shame on those cops just watching this
I used to be part of left wing circles and we call these people "ML's" or Militant Leftists and even social democrats and progressives hate them. The more you know (;
When the ML's are taking over the movement, that's when I left and joined the Trump train.
And organized uhaul trucks full of stationary.
You can literally take the BLM/Antifa training online
https://beautifultrouble.org/
"We're trained Marxists"
Yeah.
The graffiti i saw all over trashed and coincidentally mom-n-pop businesses the morning after the riots in west la calling for dead cops and the overthrow of the usa was more than an idea joe.
Please do tell, Biden, who's idea was it?
if antifa is an idea, then who's funding it? the democratic party. so the democratic party is the org and antifa is their idea.
If it’s just an idea, can we eradicate that idea from our streets?
And Biden is a moron - not a candidate!
And hand out weapons out of Uhauls to eachother
Saying Antifa is an idea is an egregious dodge. Antifa is an umbrella of groups, a collective generalization used to describe far left anarchist and communist groups.