However we must also acknowledge that Trump has complete authority of declassifications.
If he wants to.... he can do it if she doesn't.
We have to ask the question why Trump has not declassified these things when his own appointees don't.
To play the devils advocate, could there be legitimate reasons?
That said.. it's very likely she is implicated to some degree in the documents. She ran the London office during 2016, and a lot of "news" came from London during that time. I'm sure her name is on a few documents, at least.
Unsure why Trump would appoint her, in that case unless he was under the impression she would expose Brennan (but now she is protecting him).
I think there are even deeper levels of investigation going on and that the head doesn't know what the hands and feet are doing so certain items are going to be blocked till they no longer impact ongoing stuff. Sadly it's going to take more than one term or even two before the rot of corruption that is decades deep can be fully rooted out. We may be begging Trump for a third term.
Honestly at this point... I say to Trump, declass it all.
Yes, it is risky because the amount of paranoia, harm, and clusterfuck it would create in our government and institutions, however the longer this stays hidden, the harder it is to weed out and easier it is for the players to stay hidden in the weeds.
There is always the ethical argument of keeping the information hidden from the public when it involves people that hold public office. Sure, there are times when it's necessary, but when it's factual and not speculative, I think it's time to know.
He needs to declassify now because if he loses the election, presumably due to fraud, then it will be too late and all that hard work will be hidden forever
To be honest, I doubt very seriously if anyone would follow his orders to declassify now. These people think they run the country (because they do) and will face zero consequences If they just refuse.
I am still shocked that Trump appointed Christopher Wray and Gina Haspel to the FBI and CIA repectively.
And Bill Barr to the DOJ.
At what point do we look at this and say, Trump had the opportunity not to put career Deep State politicians in these positions, and instead that's exactly what he did.
So far, none of these three people have done ANYTHING to show to the American public that they are trustworthy and should even EXIST.
I hate to break this to people but regardless of this election outcome it's pretty apparent that the government is FUBAR'ed and it will take a civil war to return it to we the people as the globohomos aren't going anywhere and have been entrenching themselves since at least post WWII. 4 years wasn't enough to extract one ounce of justice I doubt another 4 would be anything but a band-aid on a gangrenous limb.
There is good reason the US is missing from end times prophecy.
Trump negotiated a second and third term with the deep state. Russia gate stays classified and buried due to the widespread chaos it could cause and the deep staters involved remain free. Trump gets two more terms. Biden is a throwaway candidate but allows the left to pretend they are fighting Trump!
(This is just a for fun, what if comment and not what I really believe)
Declassify it and fire her ass and anyone else obstructing it. Better yet, have them arrested (Live broadcast with OANN or RSBN showing it) and then fire them.
"Honestly at this point... I say to Trump, declass it all."
No records responsive to your request can be found.
What do you do then? Trump doesn't know what file cabinet or which computer file these things are in. He can't just stroll on down and get shit himself.
I agree. Declassify everything. Let everyone rifle through it on their own. The media can't spin it if everyone has the same information. Independent lawyers can file civil suits for civil rights violations, hatch act violations, etc. Independent DAs, AGs can do their own thing. Maybe one master investigation won't work for something this large and it requires thousands of independent investigations, lawsuits etc.
If the Trump admin releases all the documents that relates to these subjects, they will be regarded as the most transparent administration looking back through the years.
And the legal action taken by independent lawyers against government officials will be unprecedented. Unlike the government, independent lawyers have freedom to do their jobs. It doesn't matter if Trump appoints the head of the FBI, CIA, AG, or whoever.
By now we know we cannot trust them to do their job. Trump is doing everything he can, but he needs the help of independent players. Anyone tied to government should be assumed ineffective in dealing with the swamp.
Pompeo is doing God's work as secretary of state and Barr knows the ropes and closet skeletons of DC better than anyone. I know there is defeatist talk about Barr doing nothing because he hasn't tossed hillary and obama and crew into jail yet but again you don't root out decades of entrenched corruption in a couple of years. I agree that optics are key and that unleashing the hounds right before a hotly contested election could jam up the works and screw Trump out of a second term. Now after Trump gets his second term and 3~6 months in there is still no 'action' then yeah start boiling the tar and fluffing the feathers.
In my direct experience, the Agency is downright professional, lean and virtuous in contrast to State. State is the MOST political department in the Executive, they meet and travel with Hill members and staffers Every, Day. Of. The. Week. The Executive can't fart without State staffers running over to tell the hill rats. The actual Secretary of State, to function within State is in practice run as a private office with a small group and some trusted FSO's like Grenell. You could fire 2/3 of main State and it would probably function better. State is a huge - I mean Huge! - organization - that duplicates in some respect almost every function of every other Agency of the Executive. But the Executive can't touch them because the Senate protects them. That's why you see Rand's - what do you people do all day, and isn't this your one job, and you f that up too attitude spill out in his hearings.
Pretty sure that extreme pruning of the various government staff bloated agencies will come after the election. Just too much chaos will be unleashed if he wipes out decades of bureaucratic power creep in a series of executive actions to risk it before his second term is secured. He already did the ground work with the government shutdown and the studies they ran which found huge improvements in efficiency by cutting the staff to the bone and sending the dead weight home on vacation.
I wish they would re-populate where the headquarters are for these agencies and departments. It makes no sense for their headquarters to be in Washington DC/Virginia. Put some of those agencies in fly over country and you'll get more responsive and representative government agencies.
it's not really so much as he hasn't stuck it to Obama and crew yet, it's that literally everyone involved in the entire Fiasco, outside of Trump associates, are running around completely free of consequences. These people are so Brazen you even have Comey running around starting up the muh Russia bullshit again.
Yeah but they have no power. Just words on the media no one trusts anymore past the hard core crazies who will never accept the truth anyways. Let them run around powerless as Trump bides his time to get his second term. I mean do you really think Trump signed orders to rebuild gitmo into the worlds premier island prison with a huge max complex and a 'vip' prison with full medical facilities so who ever goes in need never leave for just shizz n giggles? Plus its defenses have been upgraded to repel a full on assault by a modern military and now has barracks for tens of thousands of troops. Thats not the actions of a man who is going to let them go free forever.
IMHO, Whitaker was in over his head as AG. He was AG in name only, and the SES class were in open revolt. You know, 'make sure the right people' are in charge of the investigation. Having Barr as AG at least puts someone in there that knows the organization and can shuffle people around until it is functioning somewhat per what it should be doing. And even Barr IMHO has his hands full as the entire DOJ/HQ is captured by K St and the Dems.
Haspill was COS London. Nothing is suppose to happen there without the COS sign off. Obviously, the docs will implicate her, or show her as incompetent to run a station. And if you can't run a station, you shouldn't be running the entire outfit. Not a good look in either scenario. If her defense is Brennon was running a 'special' under her watch as COS London and she just looked away, well that shows a lack of integrity to be a good director, again not a good look. The Agency, at least when I was there, runs under a strict chain of command, this was one of the falls out of the Church Commission.
Is there anything else? Not that that's okay he wanted to do that, but if it's just that one thing then I'm not sure it would sway me enough assuming he's sufficient in other areas.
That's why I feel he should go full on scorched earth in the second term. As scary as that would probably be, I currently feel it best to just go clean slate as soon as possible.
Given all the 'leaks' from the various investigations that no one knew about till they leaked and Trump renewing his 'lock em up' narrative at the rallies and his tweets I'm pretty sure he will pull the trigger after the election whether he gets reelected or not. If he wins he can wait a bit then go for it or if he loses he is still president and in full control till jan 20th with no fucks left to give.
Trump can not lose. PERIOD. This is our last chance to save the REPUBLIC. Exposed or not if he is not in office the DEEP STATE WINS. Get out and VOTE in PERSON. Vote Early IN PERSON if you can. Take 3 people with you each day to VOTE IN PERSON. Volunteer to be a pole watcher. Work to keep this election SAFE while the SCUM tries to steal it.
In the debate, Trump told Biden he was there in the room when they pushed to prosecute Flynn.
Comey cuck has said thats not true (lied probably, given his ability to lie everytime he opens his mouth) and all the media networks are covering Comey's take rather than Trump.
We knew this years ago. This was published in I wanna say real clear investigations in like 2017 or 2018. Susan rice was there too, and I believe Clapper.
Perhaps he's waiting for 1-2 weeks before the election? If he drops them now and they incriminate Biden they could easily push forward another candidate. Do it a week before the election however and the Democratic party would be in complete chaos.
If your goal is to demoralize Biden voters by exposing the Dems' corruption, two weeks out from the election is too late.....they will have already early voted by mail, along with all the harvested votes from the dementia ridden elderly, homeless, ballots stolen from mail boxes, dead voters, and those who sell their ballots.
Want a spoiler? The British Monarchy itself is behind the international military industrial complex which has been trying to preserve itself from being cut off funding by Trump. That’s why the spying was ordered, and if it comes out publicly that Russiagate was an Intelligence Agency Hoax then it will come out just how deeply the “cooperation” with our close “allies” really goes into abusing the IC, the US gov, the US media, and the public. Btw spy networks don’t run the news companies it’s the other way around.
As it turns out, scattering 'the intelligence community' across the entire planet doesn't make it less prone to corruption, just harder to thwart.
Good luck investigating some billionaire Illuminati shit on the other side of the planet with your domestic law enforcement in the dark, flying coach & handcuffed by jurisdiction.
Trump's biggest mistake was assuming that he could work with these people. He's been suffering for it since day 1 and half of this attempted election theft is a result.
I don't think Trump has the experience or knowledge of what these people are. It's kind of like that movie Hot Fuzz, where the whole town is in on it besides him and a tiny number of white hats.
It is a good analogy. If you spend any time in D.C. you see how their (bureaucrats) main goal in life is to control elected officials/their actions.
D.C. : "If you can't make them go away... delay."
They couldn't remove Trump via Crossfire Hurricane or Impeachment, now the delay tactics happen so that the "Corona Ballots" can be stuffed for Biden, which of course will eventually become the Harris Administration. Around February 2021
I think he learned pretty quickly. The problem is the Senate isn't allowing any non-swampy beaurocratic appointments, so he's stuck trying to find the least horrible members of a den of vipers to fill spots.
Exactly. That is why the country needs to run by patriotic outsiders who can hopefully chip away at the entrenched swamp. Cruz is a fucking pussy ...and the rest of the 'out of touch' 'do nothing' RepubliCANTs.
it boggles my mind why he would even play around with letting these people continue to exist under his watch. everybody was expecting him to clean house and we see these cretons still lurking about.
Maybe after he wins re-election he starts giving fuck it hires out.
Fire Haspel and put crazy Tom Cruise as Ethan Hunt for head of the CIA
Dr Drew head of the CDC, arnold schwarzenegger head of the department of defense, Rudy as AG, Conner Mcgregor ambassador to Ireland even though he’s Irish. Ivanka chief of staff
It really is awful for him to have the authority to do those things, given by us, and he doesn't. I can only assume there's something we don't know about.
The problem is it does at work that simply, they have to be approved by the senate I believe. Do you think they’ll let a non swamp creature just be appointed to destroy them??
The challenge he faced from day one is that he isn’t a swamp creature, but he stepped into the swamp.
McConnell told him to cut it out with swamp language.
How do you staff an administration of non-swamp people? As sad as that is to say. And don’t forget a lot of positions still haven’t been confirmed by the Senate.
... which brings me to the final point. The Senate has to confirm top posts.
McConnell has pushed record numbers of judicial appointments through, but he is also the source of some of the headaches.
Nah fuck that, just eliminate the departments altogether. Start from scratch with people that have never had anything to do with government work in the past.
Hello? Trump can't get his appointments past McConnell. He just outright rejected his last 3 appointments out of hand - no hearings at all. Just as importantly, McConnel will NOT adjure the Senate - 4 years running now - keeping Trump from making ANY recess appointments.
Fucking bipolar turtle, judicial appointments are literally the only thing where he hasn't been worse than useless these past years, yet he's kicked ass at that one thing. We need to get a more consistently patriotic majority leader next year.
I think there’s more to it. If Haspell gave in so quickly, it would appear that they have coordinated it with Trump. Pushback makes it look more legitimate.
Yes. Trump is making and controlling the timeline. What if the “bizarre” debate style was to raise the temperature and maximize press coverage for upcoming deep state expositions?
This is all wishful thinking it's been almost 4 years trump is listening to advice from people that want him to slow walk the investigation until he is out of office and than the information will be irrelevant/forgotten we don't need more reports or congressional hearings that lead to nothing and for the people down voting me we are suppose to be supporters not cult members we need to put more pressure on trump over this he appointed the deep state to leadership positions in HIS administration he is the boss and should take responsibility he could had declasified everything what we are learning today 3 years ago
Some believe the protection of Agency is what matters most.
Some believe the declassification [public exposure of truth] and rebuilding of
Agency is what matters most.
Apply same to FBI.
Apply same to State.
.........
Any attempt to buck the system, no matter severity of crime, and they will fight back [self-preservation].
SHADOW GAME.
Prevent public exposure of truth.
Why?
PEOPLE [UNITED] HAVE THE POWER.
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, -That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.
Arguably the greatest thing about the Trump presidency is that it, just by its very nature, has slowly started to peel back the layers of the deep state.
Little by little we see more and more people who are unwilling to allow the American people to know the truth.
Well that's kinda what I'm saying. Trump didn't exactly do anything to cause someone like Gina to reveal herself as a swamprat, she exposed herself. I'm saying that just by Trump being in office it's peeling back the layers of the swamp and exposing bad actors.
I agree, it should be done faster but this isn't a result of any direct action that Trump took. It happened naturally.
It was well known she was swamp, this isn't surprising at all. She was PART of spygate, had a pretty big part at that.
Pompeo pushing her made me wary of him at the time, although he hasn't shown his true colors yet I think we can expect him to backstab trump at some point in the future.
That rings true. Gina Haspel was the station chief in the UK when all the entrapping of Flynn, Page and Papadopolous was going on. Not to mention the GCHQ allowing one of theirs, Christopher Steele to interfere in our elections. Don't tell me Gina Haspel didn't know anything about Stefan Halper's games or Alexander Downer's fake "warning" to the FBI.
Towards the end of the hearing Lindsay G started recanting how many of the top people involved in the FISA warrant and unmasking were all claiming “If I knew then what I know now I wouldn’t have done it.” And that just shows you how far these people are trying to reach back to cover their collective asses.
I seriously doubt there will ever be a Trump nominated person approved by Congress who isn't secretly a Deep State agent. It is truly going to take a lifetime and a couple of constitutional amendments to drain the swamp.
Then those particular spots should just be left empty then. I'd rather spots go unfilled than to have traitorous commies in there. Lesser of two evils kinda thing.
Senate won't allow it, they haven't had a single recess since Trump's inauguration. It's fucking bizarre how they rush through a record number of judicial nominees while slow walking beaurocratic nominees. They keep approving all these great judges, while blocking anyone non-swampy that Trump wants to give a high executive spot
The organizations should be abolished completely. Leaving the spot open just allows the next guy in line to continue the same shit show. The FBI, the DOJ, the CIA, the NSA, all have to go.
Simply put, Trump as an outsider walked into the Oval Office naive as he believed in his heart that the generals were all patriots and that the core of government personnel were mostly honorable. He doesn't believe that any longer.
A second term will see a more stable administration. The first one he fires is Wray, I predict.
I'm willing to believe there was an ulterior motive, but I've never understood why on earth Haspel, or Wray at the FBI, were given their respective jobs. Story goes Haspel in particular was heavily involved in the blackmail ops, allegedly m'lud.
Anyway, whatever, fire her ass. Appreciate that it has to wait till after the election, but Day 1 of 2nd Term is fine.
John Ratliffe is Director of National Intelligence that oversees 17 Intelligence agencies, including CIA, right? And that would mean Ratliffe is Hapsels BOSS. So what's going on here??
We as American citizens are denied transparency daily. It is our right to see the truth of our government good or bad. There are individuals on both sides of the isle involved and that shouldn't deter the truth from coming out.
Exactly, so trusting Trump we must assume there is some strategy at work here. Why play helpless and let the circus continue? I think he’s giving them more rope to hang themselves. The longer they are there the more crimes they commit, the more overt and visible they become. All coming to a head soon.
Trump knew her background and still appointed her. At some point, we have to point the blame inward. She's doing what we expect her to do. Why did we place her in a position to do that? Was nobody else available? No one? Shit, nominate the guy who makes the guac bowls in Trump Tower to the job. At least he probably loves America.
Yes, on the surface these appointments look like unforced errors. However I don’t buy that. There has to be a reason this logjam is allowed to persist. I think this is a way of getting the deep state to commit more crimes while inching ever closer to getting the BTFO moment we’ve all been expecting. It’s very difficult to know.
bring back recess appointments. Fire the swamp things, then move the awesome Grenell into their spots to make the uniparty senate relent and let Trump appoint his own people---not swampees from a pre-approved list provided by the senate.
Bc the repubs hate Trump as much as the Dems. Why do you think there are only a handful defending the president? Why do you think the senate did not put together hearings during the first 2 years of muellers bullshit. They knew mueller was bs.. they were just hoping he would find something they could go along with impeaching. Think of all the set ups mueller did, and completely obliterating attorney/client privilege by going after Trump’s personal lawyer... they walked all over the constitution and there was not a peep from the senate.
You are 100% correct.
However we must also acknowledge that Trump has complete authority of declassifications.
If he wants to.... he can do it if she doesn't.
We have to ask the question why Trump has not declassified these things when his own appointees don't.
To play the devils advocate, could there be legitimate reasons?
That said.. it's very likely she is implicated to some degree in the documents. She ran the London office during 2016, and a lot of "news" came from London during that time. I'm sure her name is on a few documents, at least.
Unsure why Trump would appoint her, in that case unless he was under the impression she would expose Brennan (but now she is protecting him).
I think there are even deeper levels of investigation going on and that the head doesn't know what the hands and feet are doing so certain items are going to be blocked till they no longer impact ongoing stuff. Sadly it's going to take more than one term or even two before the rot of corruption that is decades deep can be fully rooted out. We may be begging Trump for a third term.
Honestly at this point... I say to Trump, declass it all.
Yes, it is risky because the amount of paranoia, harm, and clusterfuck it would create in our government and institutions, however the longer this stays hidden, the harder it is to weed out and easier it is for the players to stay hidden in the weeds.
There is always the ethical argument of keeping the information hidden from the public when it involves people that hold public office. Sure, there are times when it's necessary, but when it's factual and not speculative, I think it's time to know.
He needs to declassify now because if he loses the election, presumably due to fraud, then it will be too late and all that hard work will be hidden forever
If he loses in November and tries to declassify on his way out the door, they will ignore it completely, knowing he's a lame duck.
To be honest, I doubt very seriously if anyone would follow his orders to declassify now. These people think they run the country (because they do) and will face zero consequences If they just refuse.
It's already happened. He declassified documents a long time ago and I don't think we've even so all of those documents yet.
If they refused the order, fire them and put someone in who WILL declassify.
I am still shocked that Trump appointed Christopher Wray and Gina Haspel to the FBI and CIA repectively.
And Bill Barr to the DOJ.
At what point do we look at this and say, Trump had the opportunity not to put career Deep State politicians in these positions, and instead that's exactly what he did.
So far, none of these three people have done ANYTHING to show to the American public that they are trustworthy and should even EXIST.
Its despicable.
I hate to break this to people but regardless of this election outcome it's pretty apparent that the government is FUBAR'ed and it will take a civil war to return it to we the people as the globohomos aren't going anywhere and have been entrenching themselves since at least post WWII. 4 years wasn't enough to extract one ounce of justice I doubt another 4 would be anything but a band-aid on a gangrenous limb.
There is good reason the US is missing from end times prophecy.
Conspiracy Theory:
Trump negotiated a second and third term with the deep state. Russia gate stays classified and buried due to the widespread chaos it could cause and the deep staters involved remain free. Trump gets two more terms. Biden is a throwaway candidate but allows the left to pretend they are fighting Trump!
(This is just a for fun, what if comment and not what I really believe)
Where’s the 👽?
That would be unconstitutional. 22nd Amendment.
Declassify it and fire her ass and anyone else obstructing it. Better yet, have them arrested (Live broadcast with OANN or RSBN showing it) and then fire them.
Good point
No records responsive to your request can be found.
What do you do then? Trump doesn't know what file cabinet or which computer file these things are in. He can't just stroll on down and get shit himself.
would love the live stream of that though
I agree. Declassify everything. Let everyone rifle through it on their own. The media can't spin it if everyone has the same information. Independent lawyers can file civil suits for civil rights violations, hatch act violations, etc. Independent DAs, AGs can do their own thing. Maybe one master investigation won't work for something this large and it requires thousands of independent investigations, lawsuits etc.
I am genuinely not a Q believer, but this sort of thought makes me question if this is the purpose of Q.
Either way, I agree. Officially, these documents should be released.
Not leaked, not used in subversive ways, but officially, legitimately, and publicly.
If the Trump admin releases all the documents that relates to these subjects, they will be regarded as the most transparent administration looking back through the years.
And the legal action taken by independent lawyers against government officials will be unprecedented. Unlike the government, independent lawyers have freedom to do their jobs. It doesn't matter if Trump appoints the head of the FBI, CIA, AG, or whoever.
By now we know we cannot trust them to do their job. Trump is doing everything he can, but he needs the help of independent players. Anyone tied to government should be assumed ineffective in dealing with the swamp.
Pompeo is doing God's work as secretary of state and Barr knows the ropes and closet skeletons of DC better than anyone. I know there is defeatist talk about Barr doing nothing because he hasn't tossed hillary and obama and crew into jail yet but again you don't root out decades of entrenched corruption in a couple of years. I agree that optics are key and that unleashing the hounds right before a hotly contested election could jam up the works and screw Trump out of a second term. Now after Trump gets his second term and 3~6 months in there is still no 'action' then yeah start boiling the tar and fluffing the feathers.
In my direct experience, the Agency is downright professional, lean and virtuous in contrast to State. State is the MOST political department in the Executive, they meet and travel with Hill members and staffers Every, Day. Of. The. Week. The Executive can't fart without State staffers running over to tell the hill rats. The actual Secretary of State, to function within State is in practice run as a private office with a small group and some trusted FSO's like Grenell. You could fire 2/3 of main State and it would probably function better. State is a huge - I mean Huge! - organization - that duplicates in some respect almost every function of every other Agency of the Executive. But the Executive can't touch them because the Senate protects them. That's why you see Rand's - what do you people do all day, and isn't this your one job, and you f that up too attitude spill out in his hearings.
Pretty sure that extreme pruning of the various government staff bloated agencies will come after the election. Just too much chaos will be unleashed if he wipes out decades of bureaucratic power creep in a series of executive actions to risk it before his second term is secured. He already did the ground work with the government shutdown and the studies they ran which found huge improvements in efficiency by cutting the staff to the bone and sending the dead weight home on vacation.
I wish they would re-populate where the headquarters are for these agencies and departments. It makes no sense for their headquarters to be in Washington DC/Virginia. Put some of those agencies in fly over country and you'll get more responsive and representative government agencies.
it's not really so much as he hasn't stuck it to Obama and crew yet, it's that literally everyone involved in the entire Fiasco, outside of Trump associates, are running around completely free of consequences. These people are so Brazen you even have Comey running around starting up the muh Russia bullshit again.
Yeah but they have no power. Just words on the media no one trusts anymore past the hard core crazies who will never accept the truth anyways. Let them run around powerless as Trump bides his time to get his second term. I mean do you really think Trump signed orders to rebuild gitmo into the worlds premier island prison with a huge max complex and a 'vip' prison with full medical facilities so who ever goes in need never leave for just shizz n giggles? Plus its defenses have been upgraded to repel a full on assault by a modern military and now has barracks for tens of thousands of troops. Thats not the actions of a man who is going to let them go free forever.
Nobody
IMHO, Whitaker was in over his head as AG. He was AG in name only, and the SES class were in open revolt. You know, 'make sure the right people' are in charge of the investigation. Having Barr as AG at least puts someone in there that knows the organization and can shuffle people around until it is functioning somewhat per what it should be doing. And even Barr IMHO has his hands full as the entire DOJ/HQ is captured by K St and the Dems.
Haspill was COS London. Nothing is suppose to happen there without the COS sign off. Obviously, the docs will implicate her, or show her as incompetent to run a station. And if you can't run a station, you shouldn't be running the entire outfit. Not a good look in either scenario. If her defense is Brennon was running a 'special' under her watch as COS London and she just looked away, well that shows a lack of integrity to be a good director, again not a good look. The Agency, at least when I was there, runs under a strict chain of command, this was one of the falls out of the Church Commission.
This guy is legit.
Were you in the military prior to the Agency?
My dude, Pompeo is being groomed to be a President.
President Trump
Is there anything else? Not that that's okay he wanted to do that, but if it's just that one thing then I'm not sure it would sway me enough assuming he's sufficient in other areas.
Well there is the delicate matter of Lindsey. He's in a tight election, so I'm told.
God we need a few dozen candidates to run primary against these fools.
That is the reason.
He is waiting for the election to be over to go nuclear on everybody....no matter who wins. lol
That's why I feel he should go full on scorched earth in the second term. As scary as that would probably be, I currently feel it best to just go clean slate as soon as possible.
Dude they are scared to death of second term Trump. If they thought he gave no fucks as of now, they are sorely mistaken. Just wait...
This term he gives no fucks.
Next term he begins taking fucks.
There's a grand sentiment sweeping the land for full slate cleaning, of one of two types.
One type destroys the nation, the other heals it.
I sense a Trump win in the slate cleaning department, on a scale so massive none of us right now can comprehend it.
Given all the 'leaks' from the various investigations that no one knew about till they leaked and Trump renewing his 'lock em up' narrative at the rallies and his tweets I'm pretty sure he will pull the trigger after the election whether he gets reelected or not. If he wins he can wait a bit then go for it or if he loses he is still president and in full control till jan 20th with no fucks left to give.
Trump can not lose. PERIOD. This is our last chance to save the REPUBLIC. Exposed or not if he is not in office the DEEP STATE WINS. Get out and VOTE in PERSON. Vote Early IN PERSON if you can. Take 3 people with you each day to VOTE IN PERSON. Volunteer to be a pole watcher. Work to keep this election SAFE while the SCUM tries to steal it.
WWG1WGA
You gotta have the right assets to be a pole worker.
idk about you guys but I would never put a democrat in office ever again after what they did. they're going to get us all killed
In the debate, Trump told Biden he was there in the room when they pushed to prosecute Flynn.
Comey cuck has said thats not true (lied probably, given his ability to lie everytime he opens his mouth) and all the media networks are covering Comey's take rather than Trump.
We knew this years ago. This was published in I wanna say real clear investigations in like 2017 or 2018. Susan rice was there too, and I believe Clapper.
Trump remembers what happened to JFK.
This man is fighting demons, I think we all forget that.
Perhaps he's waiting for 1-2 weeks before the election? If he drops them now and they incriminate Biden they could easily push forward another candidate. Do it a week before the election however and the Democratic party would be in complete chaos.
What happens to all those early voting ballots if the guy on the ticket just got outed as a criminal and had to be dropped from the ticket?
Like a few hours before the last debate, or 30 minutes before -- it would make for some fine theater.
If your goal is to demoralize Biden voters by exposing the Dems' corruption, two weeks out from the election is too late.....they will have already early voted by mail, along with all the harvested votes from the dementia ridden elderly, homeless, ballots stolen from mail boxes, dead voters, and those who sell their ballots.
He did say he will fire Wray IN THE DEBATES.
No he didn't. That doesn't mean he won't, but he didn't say it.
Did he? He said Wray was wrong, I recall
I think that Wray’s “no evidence of election fraud” sealed Wray’s fate.
That and claiming the violent anarchists currently burning, looting, and murdering don't exist.
how deep does this go? both the head of the FBI and the CIA are in on this shit too?? its an entirely separate government good god
Want a spoiler? The British Monarchy itself is behind the international military industrial complex which has been trying to preserve itself from being cut off funding by Trump. That’s why the spying was ordered, and if it comes out publicly that Russiagate was an Intelligence Agency Hoax then it will come out just how deeply the “cooperation” with our close “allies” really goes into abusing the IC, the US gov, the US media, and the public. Btw spy networks don’t run the news companies it’s the other way around.
Her name also echoes very well
So that's what the D.C. in Washington D.C. stands for. I never knew.
wtf?
Don't forget that British intelligence were balls deep in this saga
As it turns out, scattering 'the intelligence community' across the entire planet doesn't make it less prone to corruption, just harder to thwart.
Good luck investigating some billionaire Illuminati shit on the other side of the planet with your domestic law enforcement in the dark, flying coach & handcuffed by jurisdiction.
Exactly why they did it.
He appointed her, when mike let the job. Follow along friend
Pompeo
Trump's biggest mistake was assuming that he could work with these people. He's been suffering for it since day 1 and half of this attempted election theft is a result.
I don't think Trump has the experience or knowledge of what these people are. It's kind of like that movie Hot Fuzz, where the whole town is in on it besides him and a tiny number of white hats.
It is a good analogy. If you spend any time in D.C. you see how their (bureaucrats) main goal in life is to control elected officials/their actions.
D.C. : "If you can't make them go away... delay."
They couldn't remove Trump via Crossfire Hurricane or Impeachment, now the delay tactics happen so that the "Corona Ballots" can be stuffed for Biden, which of course will eventually become the Harris Administration. Around February 2021
I think he learned pretty quickly. The problem is the Senate isn't allowing any non-swampy beaurocratic appointments, so he's stuck trying to find the least horrible members of a den of vipers to fill spots.
Exactly. That is why the country needs to run by patriotic outsiders who can hopefully chip away at the entrenched swamp. Cruz is a fucking pussy ...and the rest of the 'out of touch' 'do nothing' RepubliCANTs.
it boggles my mind why he would even play around with letting these people continue to exist under his watch. everybody was expecting him to clean house and we see these cretons still lurking about.
All he did was make his job harder.
Maybe after he wins re-election he starts giving fuck it hires out.
Fire Haspel and put crazy Tom Cruise as Ethan Hunt for head of the CIA
Dr Drew head of the CDC, arnold schwarzenegger head of the department of defense, Rudy as AG, Conner Mcgregor ambassador to Ireland even though he’s Irish. Ivanka chief of staff
It really is awful for him to have the authority to do those things, given by us, and he doesn't. I can only assume there's something we don't know about.
The problem is it does at work that simply, they have to be approved by the senate I believe. Do you think they’ll let a non swamp creature just be appointed to destroy them??
Jesus Christ Trump. In one fell swoop fire them all and install MAGA loyalists. Im getting sick of this shit.
Should have been done day one.
The challenge he faced from day one is that he isn’t a swamp creature, but he stepped into the swamp.
McConnell told him to cut it out with swamp language.
How do you staff an administration of non-swamp people? As sad as that is to say. And don’t forget a lot of positions still haven’t been confirmed by the Senate.
... which brings me to the final point. The Senate has to confirm top posts.
McConnell has pushed record numbers of judicial appointments through, but he is also the source of some of the headaches.
It's exactly what Obummer did, but, you know, with evil people. We should have 180'd that on day one.
Nah fuck that, just eliminate the departments altogether. Start from scratch with people that have never had anything to do with government work in the past.
Hello? Trump can't get his appointments past McConnell. He just outright rejected his last 3 appointments out of hand - no hearings at all. Just as importantly, McConnel will NOT adjure the Senate - 4 years running now - keeping Trump from making ANY recess appointments.
Fucking bipolar turtle, judicial appointments are literally the only thing where he hasn't been worse than useless these past years, yet he's kicked ass at that one thing. We need to get a more consistently patriotic majority leader next year.
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Fire them all and destroy the CIA and FBI. Do what JFK wanted to do.
The deep states reaction to that would cause us all incredible sadness & force us into 1776.
I think there’s more to it. If Haspell gave in so quickly, it would appear that they have coordinated it with Trump. Pushback makes it look more legitimate.
Upvoted. Despite his carefully cultivated, but undeserved reputation for rashness, our GEOTUS plays the long game, fren.
Indeed, hopefully this innit one of them.
First Christopher Wray, now Gina Haspel.
The swamp runs deep!
Maybe he's giving these deep state stooges the opportunity to reveal themselves for all to see
Yes. Trump is making and controlling the timeline. What if the “bizarre” debate style was to raise the temperature and maximize press coverage for upcoming deep state expositions?
I view this as a way for these people to get their fair chance to get enough rope to hang themselves with.
As Sun Tzu(?) said, never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake.
This is all wishful thinking it's been almost 4 years trump is listening to advice from people that want him to slow walk the investigation until he is out of office and than the information will be irrelevant/forgotten we don't need more reports or congressional hearings that lead to nothing and for the people down voting me we are suppose to be supporters not cult members we need to put more pressure on trump over this he appointed the deep state to leadership positions in HIS administration he is the boss and should take responsibility he could had declasified everything what we are learning today 3 years ago
Well, OK so check this:
Some believe the protection of Agency is what matters most.
Some believe the declassification [public exposure of truth] and rebuilding of Agency is what matters most.
Apply same to FBI.
Apply same to State.
.........
Any attempt to buck the system, no matter severity of crime, and they will fight back [self-preservation].
SHADOW GAME.
Prevent public exposure of truth.
Why?
PEOPLE [UNITED] HAVE THE POWER.
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, -That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered; yet we have this consolation with us, that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph.
And I'll leave you with this: https://twitter.com/C_L_I_C_K/status/1311481435442810882
SPEZ: Funny getting downvoted for posting a video of Trump sharing OPs sentiment as well as some text from the declaration of independence!
DOWNVOTERS ARE MORONS!
Color me naïve, but I think they‘re gonna get fucked by our boi very soon.
Why don't you just "Trust the plan"? Go back to sleep everything will be OK /s
BTW Rand Paul was right about Gina Haspel.
I don't necessarily believe Sean Davis, but I will keep an open mind.
That said, it must take a rare individual to maintain their integrity against the globalists: the world's richest and most powerful people.
For all we know, Haspel's friends and family being threatened, stalked, having photographs taken of them while they sleep, etc.
Agreed, assuming what Sean David claims is true.
We are at war and some intel is likely intended as misinformation for the enemy.
Arguably the greatest thing about the Trump presidency is that it, just by its very nature, has slowly started to peel back the layers of the deep state.
Little by little we see more and more people who are unwilling to allow the American people to know the truth.
Just another swampling for Trump drain out.
He does. Millions of us.
Sometimes you can't just tell people... you have to show them.
this is Trump’s MO. he used the same strategy at the debate
I'm not sure I follow.
Well that's kinda what I'm saying. Trump didn't exactly do anything to cause someone like Gina to reveal herself as a swamprat, she exposed herself. I'm saying that just by Trump being in office it's peeling back the layers of the swamp and exposing bad actors.
I agree, it should be done faster but this isn't a result of any direct action that Trump took. It happened naturally.
Remove that hideous swamp demon Haspel as head of the CIA.
"Splinter into a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds"
Rand Paul tried to warn him during her confirmation.
It was well known she was swamp, this isn't surprising at all. She was PART of spygate, had a pretty big part at that.
Pompeo pushing her made me wary of him at the time, although he hasn't shown his true colors yet I think we can expect him to backstab trump at some point in the future.
Rand Paul comes out as ‘concerned’ about everything. He’s bound to be right once or twice.
Link?
That rings true. Gina Haspel was the station chief in the UK when all the entrapping of Flynn, Page and Papadopolous was going on. Not to mention the GCHQ allowing one of theirs, Christopher Steele to interfere in our elections. Don't tell me Gina Haspel didn't know anything about Stefan Halper's games or Alexander Downer's fake "warning" to the FBI.
Fire her and appoint Grenell as the acting for the next few months.
Surprised? Starting to think everyone in the top levels of CIA and FBI were in on the coup. Subpena and question them. Someone will flip.
Towards the end of the hearing Lindsay G started recanting how many of the top people involved in the FISA warrant and unmasking were all claiming “If I knew then what I know now I wouldn’t have done it.” And that just shows you how far these people are trying to reach back to cover their collective asses.
We are a banana republic.
I seriously doubt there will ever be a Trump nominated person approved by Congress who isn't secretly a Deep State agent. It is truly going to take a lifetime and a couple of constitutional amendments to drain the swamp.
Then those particular spots should just be left empty then. I'd rather spots go unfilled than to have traitorous commies in there. Lesser of two evils kinda thing.
Recess appointments.
Recess of what? The Senate?
When is, or has been, the Senate in recess?
Good ol Mitch wont allow it so Trump can not make recess appointments. He is the first president in history to not have a single one i believe
Senate won't allow it, they haven't had a single recess since Trump's inauguration. It's fucking bizarre how they rush through a record number of judicial nominees while slow walking beaurocratic nominees. They keep approving all these great judges, while blocking anyone non-swampy that Trump wants to give a high executive spot
The organizations should be abolished completely. Leaving the spot open just allows the next guy in line to continue the same shit show. The FBI, the DOJ, the CIA, the NSA, all have to go.
Make Alex Jones the CIA ... AND FBI director!!!
We will know EVERYTHING BY THE END OF THE FUCKIN' WEEK!
I HAVE THE DOCUMENTS (but for real this time)
Simply put, Trump as an outsider walked into the Oval Office naive as he believed in his heart that the generals were all patriots and that the core of government personnel were mostly honorable. He doesn't believe that any longer. A second term will see a more stable administration. The first one he fires is Wray, I predict.
Wray has to go. What a garbage person.
I wonder if this story about the hard drives is true. If it is, this don't mean shit.
Oh look, an English educated traitor. Who would of guessed 🙄
I'm willing to believe there was an ulterior motive, but I've never understood why on earth Haspel, or Wray at the FBI, were given their respective jobs. Story goes Haspel in particular was heavily involved in the blackmail ops, allegedly m'lud.
Anyway, whatever, fire her ass. Appreciate that it has to wait till after the election, but Day 1 of 2nd Term is fine.
Sidney Powell said Wray was recommended to Trump by none other that Rod “the rat” Rosenstein.
Gina probably knows all about the nefarious goings-on with the earliest stages of The Coup in London.
Politely asking the crooks to provide their own hanging evidence may not be a productive strategy.
Helicopter rides with no seat belts and open doors???
John Ratliffe is Director of National Intelligence that oversees 17 Intelligence agencies, including CIA, right? And that would mean Ratliffe is Hapsels BOSS. So what's going on here??
SO OVERRULE THE CUNT, AND FIRE HER
Why is she even there, if she's a Brennan ally?
This lady definitely has a pussy hat and many cats.
Two words: "You're fired."
Never let these Leftists near our Government Again.
The only thing that is shocking to me is we all keep thinking the truth will come out. It never will. The deep state wont let it....
I knew she was going to be trouble when Cryin' Chuck supported her. Why do we keep on putting Deep Staters in these positions?
Realize that the president has over all control of this process. He needs to declassify the documents then fire this Clinton loving marxis
lol CIA. Typical.
We as American citizens are denied transparency daily. It is our right to see the truth of our government good or bad. There are individuals on both sides of the isle involved and that shouldn't deter the truth from coming out.
Solid sourcing as usual.
Wray and Haspel shitting on the Tree
C-O-N-S-P-I-R-A-C-Y
My mom says never judge a person based only on looks, but I knew this lady was a cunt imnediately when she was hired. Resting Bitch Face x 10000.
How can a staffer block the president?
They literally can't. There may be political fall out if the president were to bypass the "process" but he could do so in a snap. Does he want to?
Hey guys the deep state is just a conspiracy /s
Trump can just do it. He's the boss, not Gina. There's zero reason why this should be any sort of roadblock.
Exactly, so trusting Trump we must assume there is some strategy at work here. Why play helpless and let the circus continue? I think he’s giving them more rope to hang themselves. The longer they are there the more crimes they commit, the more overt and visible they become. All coming to a head soon.
She certainly looks the part. Smarmy cat lady who dreams of aborting babies and wearing a pink hat through the streets forever and ever.
The Swamp protects its own
He needs to clean house after the election. Get rid of all these cunts.
Trump knew her background and still appointed her. At some point, we have to point the blame inward. She's doing what we expect her to do. Why did we place her in a position to do that? Was nobody else available? No one? Shit, nominate the guy who makes the guac bowls in Trump Tower to the job. At least he probably loves America.
Yes, on the surface these appointments look like unforced errors. However I don’t buy that. There has to be a reason this logjam is allowed to persist. I think this is a way of getting the deep state to commit more crimes while inching ever closer to getting the BTFO moment we’ve all been expecting. It’s very difficult to know.
bring back recess appointments. Fire the swamp things, then move the awesome Grenell into their spots to make the uniparty senate relent and let Trump appoint his own people---not swampees from a pre-approved list provided by the senate.
...and ask yourself why recess appointments went away, with a Republican majority senate, when Trump was elected
Bc the repubs hate Trump as much as the Dems. Why do you think there are only a handful defending the president? Why do you think the senate did not put together hearings during the first 2 years of muellers bullshit. They knew mueller was bs.. they were just hoping he would find something they could go along with impeaching. Think of all the set ups mueller did, and completely obliterating attorney/client privilege by going after Trump’s personal lawyer... they walked all over the constitution and there was not a peep from the senate.
I don't even care any more, we are a month out from the elections.... it's all a shit show... meh.