However we must also acknowledge that Trump has complete authority of declassifications.
If he wants to.... he can do it if she doesn't.
We have to ask the question why Trump has not declassified these things when his own appointees don't.
To play the devils advocate, could there be legitimate reasons?
That said.. it's very likely she is implicated to some degree in the documents. She ran the London office during 2016, and a lot of "news" came from London during that time. I'm sure her name is on a few documents, at least.
Unsure why Trump would appoint her, in that case unless he was under the impression she would expose Brennan (but now she is protecting him).
I think there are even deeper levels of investigation going on and that the head doesn't know what the hands and feet are doing so certain items are going to be blocked till they no longer impact ongoing stuff. Sadly it's going to take more than one term or even two before the rot of corruption that is decades deep can be fully rooted out. We may be begging Trump for a third term.
Honestly at this point... I say to Trump, declass it all.
Yes, it is risky because the amount of paranoia, harm, and clusterfuck it would create in our government and institutions, however the longer this stays hidden, the harder it is to weed out and easier it is for the players to stay hidden in the weeds.
There is always the ethical argument of keeping the information hidden from the public when it involves people that hold public office. Sure, there are times when it's necessary, but when it's factual and not speculative, I think it's time to know.
He needs to declassify now because if he loses the election, presumably due to fraud, then it will be too late and all that hard work will be hidden forever
Declassify it and fire her ass and anyone else obstructing it. Better yet, have them arrested (Live broadcast with OANN or RSBN showing it) and then fire them.
"Honestly at this point... I say to Trump, declass it all."
No records responsive to your request can be found.
What do you do then? Trump doesn't know what file cabinet or which computer file these things are in. He can't just stroll on down and get shit himself.
I agree. Declassify everything. Let everyone rifle through it on their own. The media can't spin it if everyone has the same information. Independent lawyers can file civil suits for civil rights violations, hatch act violations, etc. Independent DAs, AGs can do their own thing. Maybe one master investigation won't work for something this large and it requires thousands of independent investigations, lawsuits etc.
If the Trump admin releases all the documents that relates to these subjects, they will be regarded as the most transparent administration looking back through the years.
And the legal action taken by independent lawyers against government officials will be unprecedented. Unlike the government, independent lawyers have freedom to do their jobs. It doesn't matter if Trump appoints the head of the FBI, CIA, AG, or whoever.
By now we know we cannot trust them to do their job. Trump is doing everything he can, but he needs the help of independent players. Anyone tied to government should be assumed ineffective in dealing with the swamp.
Pompeo is doing God's work as secretary of state and Barr knows the ropes and closet skeletons of DC better than anyone. I know there is defeatist talk about Barr doing nothing because he hasn't tossed hillary and obama and crew into jail yet but again you don't root out decades of entrenched corruption in a couple of years. I agree that optics are key and that unleashing the hounds right before a hotly contested election could jam up the works and screw Trump out of a second term. Now after Trump gets his second term and 3~6 months in there is still no 'action' then yeah start boiling the tar and fluffing the feathers.
In my direct experience, the Agency is downright professional, lean and virtuous in contrast to State. State is the MOST political department in the Executive, they meet and travel with Hill members and staffers Every, Day. Of. The. Week. The Executive can't fart without State staffers running over to tell the hill rats. The actual Secretary of State, to function within State is in practice run as a private office with a small group and some trusted FSO's like Grenell. You could fire 2/3 of main State and it would probably function better. State is a huge - I mean Huge! - organization - that duplicates in some respect almost every function of every other Agency of the Executive. But the Executive can't touch them because the Senate protects them. That's why you see Rand's - what do you people do all day, and isn't this your one job, and you f that up too attitude spill out in his hearings.
it's not really so much as he hasn't stuck it to Obama and crew yet, it's that literally everyone involved in the entire Fiasco, outside of Trump associates, are running around completely free of consequences. These people are so Brazen you even have Comey running around starting up the muh Russia bullshit again.
IMHO, Whitaker was in over his head as AG. He was AG in name only, and the SES class were in open revolt. You know, 'make sure the right people' are in charge of the investigation. Having Barr as AG at least puts someone in there that knows the organization and can shuffle people around until it is functioning somewhat per what it should be doing. And even Barr IMHO has his hands full as the entire DOJ/HQ is captured by K St and the Dems.
Haspill was COS London. Nothing is suppose to happen there without the COS sign off. Obviously, the docs will implicate her, or show her as incompetent to run a station. And if you can't run a station, you shouldn't be running the entire outfit. Not a good look in either scenario. If her defense is Brennon was running a 'special' under her watch as COS London and she just looked away, well that shows a lack of integrity to be a good director, again not a good look. The Agency, at least when I was there, runs under a strict chain of command, this was one of the falls out of the Church Commission.
That's why I feel he should go full on scorched earth in the second term. As scary as that would probably be, I currently feel it best to just go clean slate as soon as possible.
Given all the 'leaks' from the various investigations that no one knew about till they leaked and Trump renewing his 'lock em up' narrative at the rallies and his tweets I'm pretty sure he will pull the trigger after the election whether he gets reelected or not. If he wins he can wait a bit then go for it or if he loses he is still president and in full control till jan 20th with no fucks left to give.
Trump can not lose. PERIOD. This is our last chance to save the REPUBLIC. Exposed or not if he is not in office the DEEP STATE WINS. Get out and VOTE in PERSON. Vote Early IN PERSON if you can. Take 3 people with you each day to VOTE IN PERSON. Volunteer to be a pole watcher. Work to keep this election SAFE while the SCUM tries to steal it.
In the debate, Trump told Biden he was there in the room when they pushed to prosecute Flynn.
Comey cuck has said thats not true (lied probably, given his ability to lie everytime he opens his mouth) and all the media networks are covering Comey's take rather than Trump.
We knew this years ago. This was published in I wanna say real clear investigations in like 2017 or 2018. Susan rice was there too, and I believe Clapper.
Perhaps he's waiting for 1-2 weeks before the election? If he drops them now and they incriminate Biden they could easily push forward another candidate. Do it a week before the election however and the Democratic party would be in complete chaos.
If your goal is to demoralize Biden voters by exposing the Dems' corruption, two weeks out from the election is too late.....they will have already early voted by mail, along with all the harvested votes from the dementia ridden elderly, homeless, ballots stolen from mail boxes, dead voters, and those who sell their ballots.
You are 100% correct.
However we must also acknowledge that Trump has complete authority of declassifications.
If he wants to.... he can do it if she doesn't.
We have to ask the question why Trump has not declassified these things when his own appointees don't.
To play the devils advocate, could there be legitimate reasons?
That said.. it's very likely she is implicated to some degree in the documents. She ran the London office during 2016, and a lot of "news" came from London during that time. I'm sure her name is on a few documents, at least.
Unsure why Trump would appoint her, in that case unless he was under the impression she would expose Brennan (but now she is protecting him).
I think there are even deeper levels of investigation going on and that the head doesn't know what the hands and feet are doing so certain items are going to be blocked till they no longer impact ongoing stuff. Sadly it's going to take more than one term or even two before the rot of corruption that is decades deep can be fully rooted out. We may be begging Trump for a third term.
Honestly at this point... I say to Trump, declass it all.
Yes, it is risky because the amount of paranoia, harm, and clusterfuck it would create in our government and institutions, however the longer this stays hidden, the harder it is to weed out and easier it is for the players to stay hidden in the weeds.
There is always the ethical argument of keeping the information hidden from the public when it involves people that hold public office. Sure, there are times when it's necessary, but when it's factual and not speculative, I think it's time to know.
He needs to declassify now because if he loses the election, presumably due to fraud, then it will be too late and all that hard work will be hidden forever
If he loses in November and tries to declassify on his way out the door, they will ignore it completely, knowing he's a lame duck.
Declassify it and fire her ass and anyone else obstructing it. Better yet, have them arrested (Live broadcast with OANN or RSBN showing it) and then fire them.
Good point
No records responsive to your request can be found.
What do you do then? Trump doesn't know what file cabinet or which computer file these things are in. He can't just stroll on down and get shit himself.
would love the live stream of that though
I agree. Declassify everything. Let everyone rifle through it on their own. The media can't spin it if everyone has the same information. Independent lawyers can file civil suits for civil rights violations, hatch act violations, etc. Independent DAs, AGs can do their own thing. Maybe one master investigation won't work for something this large and it requires thousands of independent investigations, lawsuits etc.
I am genuinely not a Q believer, but this sort of thought makes me question if this is the purpose of Q.
Either way, I agree. Officially, these documents should be released.
Not leaked, not used in subversive ways, but officially, legitimately, and publicly.
If the Trump admin releases all the documents that relates to these subjects, they will be regarded as the most transparent administration looking back through the years.
And the legal action taken by independent lawyers against government officials will be unprecedented. Unlike the government, independent lawyers have freedom to do their jobs. It doesn't matter if Trump appoints the head of the FBI, CIA, AG, or whoever.
By now we know we cannot trust them to do their job. Trump is doing everything he can, but he needs the help of independent players. Anyone tied to government should be assumed ineffective in dealing with the swamp.
Pompeo is doing God's work as secretary of state and Barr knows the ropes and closet skeletons of DC better than anyone. I know there is defeatist talk about Barr doing nothing because he hasn't tossed hillary and obama and crew into jail yet but again you don't root out decades of entrenched corruption in a couple of years. I agree that optics are key and that unleashing the hounds right before a hotly contested election could jam up the works and screw Trump out of a second term. Now after Trump gets his second term and 3~6 months in there is still no 'action' then yeah start boiling the tar and fluffing the feathers.
In my direct experience, the Agency is downright professional, lean and virtuous in contrast to State. State is the MOST political department in the Executive, they meet and travel with Hill members and staffers Every, Day. Of. The. Week. The Executive can't fart without State staffers running over to tell the hill rats. The actual Secretary of State, to function within State is in practice run as a private office with a small group and some trusted FSO's like Grenell. You could fire 2/3 of main State and it would probably function better. State is a huge - I mean Huge! - organization - that duplicates in some respect almost every function of every other Agency of the Executive. But the Executive can't touch them because the Senate protects them. That's why you see Rand's - what do you people do all day, and isn't this your one job, and you f that up too attitude spill out in his hearings.
it's not really so much as he hasn't stuck it to Obama and crew yet, it's that literally everyone involved in the entire Fiasco, outside of Trump associates, are running around completely free of consequences. These people are so Brazen you even have Comey running around starting up the muh Russia bullshit again.
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IMHO, Whitaker was in over his head as AG. He was AG in name only, and the SES class were in open revolt. You know, 'make sure the right people' are in charge of the investigation. Having Barr as AG at least puts someone in there that knows the organization and can shuffle people around until it is functioning somewhat per what it should be doing. And even Barr IMHO has his hands full as the entire DOJ/HQ is captured by K St and the Dems.
Haspill was COS London. Nothing is suppose to happen there without the COS sign off. Obviously, the docs will implicate her, or show her as incompetent to run a station. And if you can't run a station, you shouldn't be running the entire outfit. Not a good look in either scenario. If her defense is Brennon was running a 'special' under her watch as COS London and she just looked away, well that shows a lack of integrity to be a good director, again not a good look. The Agency, at least when I was there, runs under a strict chain of command, this was one of the falls out of the Church Commission.
This guy is legit.
Were you in the military prior to the Agency?
My dude, Pompeo is being groomed to be a President.
Well there is the delicate matter of Lindsey. He's in a tight election, so I'm told.
God we need a few dozen candidates to run primary against these fools.
That is the reason.
He is waiting for the election to be over to go nuclear on everybody....no matter who wins. lol
That's why I feel he should go full on scorched earth in the second term. As scary as that would probably be, I currently feel it best to just go clean slate as soon as possible.
Dude they are scared to death of second term Trump. If they thought he gave no fucks as of now, they are sorely mistaken. Just wait...
This term he gives no fucks.
Next term he begins taking fucks.
There's a grand sentiment sweeping the land for full slate cleaning, of one of two types.
One type destroys the nation, the other heals it.
I sense a Trump win in the slate cleaning department, on a scale so massive none of us right now can comprehend it.
Given all the 'leaks' from the various investigations that no one knew about till they leaked and Trump renewing his 'lock em up' narrative at the rallies and his tweets I'm pretty sure he will pull the trigger after the election whether he gets reelected or not. If he wins he can wait a bit then go for it or if he loses he is still president and in full control till jan 20th with no fucks left to give.
Trump can not lose. PERIOD. This is our last chance to save the REPUBLIC. Exposed or not if he is not in office the DEEP STATE WINS. Get out and VOTE in PERSON. Vote Early IN PERSON if you can. Take 3 people with you each day to VOTE IN PERSON. Volunteer to be a pole watcher. Work to keep this election SAFE while the SCUM tries to steal it.
WWG1WGA
idk about you guys but I would never put a democrat in office ever again after what they did. they're going to get us all killed
In the debate, Trump told Biden he was there in the room when they pushed to prosecute Flynn.
Comey cuck has said thats not true (lied probably, given his ability to lie everytime he opens his mouth) and all the media networks are covering Comey's take rather than Trump.
We knew this years ago. This was published in I wanna say real clear investigations in like 2017 or 2018. Susan rice was there too, and I believe Clapper.
Trump remembers what happened to JFK.
This man is fighting demons, I think we all forget that.
Perhaps he's waiting for 1-2 weeks before the election? If he drops them now and they incriminate Biden they could easily push forward another candidate. Do it a week before the election however and the Democratic party would be in complete chaos.
What happens to all those early voting ballots if the guy on the ticket just got outed as a criminal and had to be dropped from the ticket?
Like a few hours before the last debate, or 30 minutes before -- it would make for some fine theater.
If your goal is to demoralize Biden voters by exposing the Dems' corruption, two weeks out from the election is too late.....they will have already early voted by mail, along with all the harvested votes from the dementia ridden elderly, homeless, ballots stolen from mail boxes, dead voters, and those who sell their ballots.
He did say he will fire Wray IN THE DEBATES.
No he didn't. That doesn't mean he won't, but he didn't say it.
Did he? He said Wray was wrong, I recall
I think that Wray’s “no evidence of election fraud” sealed Wray’s fate.
That and claiming the violent anarchists currently burning, looting, and murdering don't exist.