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SquiggyMcPepe 101 points ago +106 / -5

I think there are even deeper levels of investigation going on and that the head doesn't know what the hands and feet are doing so certain items are going to be blocked till they no longer impact ongoing stuff. Sadly it's going to take more than one term or even two before the rot of corruption that is decades deep can be fully rooted out. We may be begging Trump for a third term.

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wumao 113 points ago +115 / -2

Honestly at this point... I say to Trump, declass it all.

Yes, it is risky because the amount of paranoia, harm, and clusterfuck it would create in our government and institutions, however the longer this stays hidden, the harder it is to weed out and easier it is for the players to stay hidden in the weeds.

There is always the ethical argument of keeping the information hidden from the public when it involves people that hold public office. Sure, there are times when it's necessary, but when it's factual and not speculative, I think it's time to know.

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Tellsyouhow 105 points ago +106 / -1

He needs to declassify now because if he loses the election, presumably due to fraud, then it will be too late and all that hard work will be hidden forever

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BigIronBigIron 67 points ago +68 / -1

If he loses in November and tries to declassify on his way out the door, they will ignore it completely, knowing he's a lame duck.

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Hckyhillbilly 54 points ago +55 / -1

To be honest, I doubt very seriously if anyone would follow his orders to declassify now. These people think they run the country (because they do) and will face zero consequences If they just refuse.

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Bigus_Dickus 13 points ago +13 / -0

I hate to break this to people but regardless of this election outcome it's pretty apparent that the government is FUBAR'ed and it will take a civil war to return it to we the people as the globohomos aren't going anywhere and have been entrenching themselves since at least post WWII. 4 years wasn't enough to extract one ounce of justice I doubt another 4 would be anything but a band-aid on a gangrenous limb.

There is good reason the US is missing from end times prophecy.

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Meatbank84 3 points ago +3 / -0

Conspiracy Theory:

Trump negotiated a second and third term with the deep state. Russia gate stays classified and buried due to the widespread chaos it could cause and the deep staters involved remain free. Trump gets two more terms. Biden is a throwaway candidate but allows the left to pretend they are fighting Trump!

(This is just a for fun, what if comment and not what I really believe)

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Necrovoter 21 points ago +21 / -0

Declassify it and fire her ass and anyone else obstructing it. Better yet, have them arrested (Live broadcast with OANN or RSBN showing it) and then fire them.

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wumao 4 points ago +4 / -0

Good point

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bill_in_texas 3 points ago +3 / -0

"Honestly at this point... I say to Trump, declass it all."

No records responsive to your request can be found.

What do you do then? Trump doesn't know what file cabinet or which computer file these things are in. He can't just stroll on down and get shit himself.

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DemsFuckKids 4 points ago +4 / -0

would love the live stream of that though

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GrabLifeByThePussy 2 points ago +2 / -0

I agree. Declassify everything. Let everyone rifle through it on their own. The media can't spin it if everyone has the same information. Independent lawyers can file civil suits for civil rights violations, hatch act violations, etc. Independent DAs, AGs can do their own thing. Maybe one master investigation won't work for something this large and it requires thousands of independent investigations, lawsuits etc.

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wumao 1 point ago +1 / -0

I am genuinely not a Q believer, but this sort of thought makes me question if this is the purpose of Q.

Either way, I agree. Officially, these documents should be released.

Not leaked, not used in subversive ways, but officially, legitimately, and publicly.

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wumao 1 point ago +1 / -0

If the Trump admin releases all the documents that relates to these subjects, they will be regarded as the most transparent administration looking back through the years.

And the legal action taken by independent lawyers against government officials will be unprecedented. Unlike the government, independent lawyers have freedom to do their jobs. It doesn't matter if Trump appoints the head of the FBI, CIA, AG, or whoever.

By now we know we cannot trust them to do their job. Trump is doing everything he can, but he needs the help of independent players. Anyone tied to government should be assumed ineffective in dealing with the swamp.

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SquiggyMcPepe 27 points ago +34 / -7

Pompeo is doing God's work as secretary of state and Barr knows the ropes and closet skeletons of DC better than anyone. I know there is defeatist talk about Barr doing nothing because he hasn't tossed hillary and obama and crew into jail yet but again you don't root out decades of entrenched corruption in a couple of years. I agree that optics are key and that unleashing the hounds right before a hotly contested election could jam up the works and screw Trump out of a second term. Now after Trump gets his second term and 3~6 months in there is still no 'action' then yeah start boiling the tar and fluffing the feathers.

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tom_of_rj_fame 9 points ago +9 / -0

In my direct experience, the Agency is downright professional, lean and virtuous in contrast to State. State is the MOST political department in the Executive, they meet and travel with Hill members and staffers Every, Day. Of. The. Week. The Executive can't fart without State staffers running over to tell the hill rats. The actual Secretary of State, to function within State is in practice run as a private office with a small group and some trusted FSO's like Grenell. You could fire 2/3 of main State and it would probably function better. State is a huge - I mean Huge! - organization - that duplicates in some respect almost every function of every other Agency of the Executive. But the Executive can't touch them because the Senate protects them. That's why you see Rand's - what do you people do all day, and isn't this your one job, and you f that up too attitude spill out in his hearings.

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SquiggyMcPepe 5 points ago +5 / -0

Pretty sure that extreme pruning of the various government staff bloated agencies will come after the election. Just too much chaos will be unleashed if he wipes out decades of bureaucratic power creep in a series of executive actions to risk it before his second term is secured. He already did the ground work with the government shutdown and the studies they ran which found huge improvements in efficiency by cutting the staff to the bone and sending the dead weight home on vacation.

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MrQuacker2020 4 points ago +4 / -0

it's not really so much as he hasn't stuck it to Obama and crew yet, it's that literally everyone involved in the entire Fiasco, outside of Trump associates, are running around completely free of consequences. These people are so Brazen you even have Comey running around starting up the muh Russia bullshit again.

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SquiggyMcPepe 0 points ago +1 / -1

Yeah but they have no power. Just words on the media no one trusts anymore past the hard core crazies who will never accept the truth anyways. Let them run around powerless as Trump bides his time to get his second term. I mean do you really think Trump signed orders to rebuild gitmo into the worlds premier island prison with a huge max complex and a 'vip' prison with full medical facilities so who ever goes in need never leave for just shizz n giggles? Plus its defenses have been upgraded to repel a full on assault by a modern military and now has barracks for tens of thousands of troops. Thats not the actions of a man who is going to let them go free forever.

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Spirit_of_Resistance 1 point ago +1 / -0

I know there is defeatist talk about Barr doing nothing because he hasn't tossed hillary and obama and crew

Nobody

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tom_of_rj_fame 11 points ago +11 / -0

IMHO, Whitaker was in over his head as AG. He was AG in name only, and the SES class were in open revolt. You know, 'make sure the right people' are in charge of the investigation. Having Barr as AG at least puts someone in there that knows the organization and can shuffle people around until it is functioning somewhat per what it should be doing. And even Barr IMHO has his hands full as the entire DOJ/HQ is captured by K St and the Dems.

Haspill was COS London. Nothing is suppose to happen there without the COS sign off. Obviously, the docs will implicate her, or show her as incompetent to run a station. And if you can't run a station, you shouldn't be running the entire outfit. Not a good look in either scenario. If her defense is Brennon was running a 'special' under her watch as COS London and she just looked away, well that shows a lack of integrity to be a good director, again not a good look. The Agency, at least when I was there, runs under a strict chain of command, this was one of the falls out of the Church Commission.

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FreeBased1 1 point ago +1 / -0

This guy is legit.

Were you in the military prior to the Agency?

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Wallypip3 11 points ago +14 / -3

My dude, Pompeo is being groomed to be a President.

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Wallypip3 1 point ago +1 / -0

President Trump

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FragrantDude 1 point ago +2 / -1

Is there anything else? Not that that's okay he wanted to do that, but if it's just that one thing then I'm not sure it would sway me enough assuming he's sufficient in other areas.

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tom_of_rj_fame 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well there is the delicate matter of Lindsey. He's in a tight election, so I'm told.

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Imransgarage 2 points ago +2 / -0

God we need a few dozen candidates to run primary against these fools.

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spaceport-terra 1 point ago +1 / -0

That is the reason.

He is waiting for the election to be over to go nuclear on everybody....no matter who wins. lol

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shogun5000 23 points ago +23 / -0

That's why I feel he should go full on scorched earth in the second term. As scary as that would probably be, I currently feel it best to just go clean slate as soon as possible.

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sketchy_at_best 8 points ago +8 / -0

Dude they are scared to death of second term Trump. If they thought he gave no fucks as of now, they are sorely mistaken. Just wait...

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nutup_orshutup 4 points ago +4 / -0

This term he gives no fucks.

Next term he begins taking fucks.

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ZeroDeltaTango 6 points ago +6 / -0

There's a grand sentiment sweeping the land for full slate cleaning, of one of two types.

One type destroys the nation, the other heals it.

I sense a Trump win in the slate cleaning department, on a scale so massive none of us right now can comprehend it.

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SquiggyMcPepe 4 points ago +4 / -0

Given all the 'leaks' from the various investigations that no one knew about till they leaked and Trump renewing his 'lock em up' narrative at the rallies and his tweets I'm pretty sure he will pull the trigger after the election whether he gets reelected or not. If he wins he can wait a bit then go for it or if he loses he is still president and in full control till jan 20th with no fucks left to give.

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thebigbear 18 points ago +18 / -0

Trump can not lose. PERIOD. This is our last chance to save the REPUBLIC. Exposed or not if he is not in office the DEEP STATE WINS. Get out and VOTE in PERSON. Vote Early IN PERSON if you can. Take 3 people with you each day to VOTE IN PERSON. Volunteer to be a pole watcher. Work to keep this election SAFE while the SCUM tries to steal it.

WWG1WGA

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WestPalm 3 points ago +3 / -0

You gotta have the right assets to be a pole worker.

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grndmrshlgando 8 points ago +8 / -0

idk about you guys but I would never put a democrat in office ever again after what they did. they're going to get us all killed

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