He is rational whether we like it or not. Keep the focus on what happened during the summer of love. Antifa burned down businesses. Trump campaign should have a town hall with people who lost their businesses, jobs and loved ones during that time. Apply the emotional side of normies
The Left has won for decades on emotional appeal. This insane idea that somehow there isn't equality under the law. Really? What the fuck can I do that a woman can't? Or a black man? Or a rhinoceros?
As an employee of Fox News, he focused on what he could. Yes, Chris Wallace sucked and Trump's strategy may have been to push on the cracks in the dem base... however, Tucker does make another important point here.
Much of the population is swayed by emotion, however disingenuous it is. That's why they support BLM and all other manner of leftist movements to begin with! I think Tuck is just saying... "you may be right, but don't forget how these people operate—how they made it as far as they have."
I'm a huge Tucker fan but his debate analysis last night wasn't good. He didn't say one word about Chris Wallace. I guess he didn't want to call out a colleague but you can't have an honest discussion about the debate without talking about the moderator's role. Especially after Wallace's abject liberal shit show. Victor Davis Hanson's take on it was good. He's always good.
this isnt a speech. or conversation. its text. Very annoying to read spam. It doesn't make your statement more forceful or why ever you do it. It just makes people ignore you. And is annoying as fuck. You only need to type something once and it is there for anyone to read over and over, its not like speech where its a one time thing and when the soundwaves disperse, its gone.
I too enjoyed it. It wasn’t a proper debate that’s for sure. That issue would be solved if we had a proper moderator. It was still entertaining because it was 2 v 1.
The title of this post suggests Tucker went after Trump, but after watching the video, it doesn't exactly show it.
His first statement of the debate being "painful and depressing" sort of does, but from pov of the message Tucker has put out there repeatedly: "So-called Republicans and Conservatives are allowing this insanity to go on unchecked and without true justice". Similar to what has been expressed on this site. Two-tiered justice system, arrests of innocent people, terrorists being let go next day, time for more Kyle's, etc. I interpreted Tucker's statement, after saying America is the best place with the best people, as "but not really if Biden is currently not being laughed at but actually supported".
The rest of the video, Tucker goes on to say 1) Biden is not senile, but an unashamed liar, 2) Democrats/terrorists hate this country and are planning revolution, 3) Tone wins over "feelings over facts" people, and 4) Biden failed to address obvious terrorism over last couple of months.
He doesn't mention wallace, but that's just professional courtesy and protecting his job. Morally questionable, but understandable. He said enough for his viewers who already know wallace is scum.
Wallace and Biden played their part as best they could, whining and crying while actively stomping on Trump. Typical crybully behavior.
Anyone who thinks Trump was so un-civil needs to re-watch the debate with a fresh point of view. In the moment the whole thing felt uncomfortable because of Wallace and Biden's coordinated crybullying.
I for one remember the 2016 debates all too well and found this debate frustrating because of the obvious ridiculous bullshit.
I didn’t say it wouldn’t be effective, I just think it could have been more effective. The debate kind of turned off some people who I had been convincing to vote Trump, and it was sad to see. Though I think Biden lost far more votes that night.
Yes, and the C-SPAN poll is now up to 69% "Trump won."
It is sad if someone's mind can be changed against Trump based on one debate. Maybe you can get them to see it another way, with Wallace so obviously biased and helping Joe.
Yes it is sad. And it’s precisely because people don’t pay attention. It’s a harsh reality that we do have to cater to these people to some degree. Unless they truly are right that it’s a base election, which it very well could be.
They still definitely aren’t voting Biden though so I guess that’s a plus.
You can't cater to the middle of the road so much that you get nothing done. Trump was absolutely brutal in the 2016 primary debates. If he hadn't been, he wouldn't have even become the nominee, let alone been elected.
Yeah I agree with that. I don’t think it hurt him by much in the long run, I just wish he would have done a bit better on some things. The first 20 minutes were a total shitshow and it was definitely too much.
I dont see why. To me its so obvious I roll my eyes when I see people like Tucker shit the bed in regards to it. Clearly he is smart enough to understand, but he isnt alone. Styx and others made the same mistake. Really annoying and dumb, "to be fair" why? Why focus on being fair, just be real about it. Nobody cares about fair. They just want to win. Ask the Antifa dorks about that.
Tucker wants an intellectual debate like in his college debate club. The average voter doesn't understand the details of the policies anyway and just wants to see how the candidates react under stress and if they won't get bullied.
I’m not saying it makes sense. If people really paid attention, they would see Trump accomplished the mission he set out to do.
But people don’t pay attention. A vast majority of people don’t, just look at the reaction. And Trump should know that. He’s not at a rally.
Overall I think he did well by forcing Biden to take or flip flop on radical positions. I just don’t think he won over any new voters. I don’t think that was his intent either, but some things he just could have handled better.
I don’t mind ‘to be fair’ and whatever comes after it. When you watch a show, eg Mourning Joe and Mika, and it is clearly parsing the good for Biden and the negative on Trump, my mind discounts everything that comes out of their mouths.
I’ve seen all the MSM, including Fox, use smears that took these candidates out of context in order to make their points.
To Fox hosts and contributors; Biden messes up enough on his own. No need to ruin your credibility by pulling dirty tricks on his ‘innocent’ mistakes that anyone could make, just to score points for Trump. It insults us.
Nah, he's spot on. Trump was unprepared, and I can admit to thinking Biden was mentally gone when it's clear he's not. I've watched too many chopped videos of his worst moments.
Trump is the man, but there's plenty he's done wrong. Not firing Wray's seditious ass is fucking him hard right now. The FBI is not going to do any investigating of all the voter fraud, and they won't even admit Antifa is a problem.
The goal of the debate was to rattle biden, find his weak spots, and mainly to divide the left. The people that won't vote for Trump will not be convinced to vote for him at this point...but they can be convinced to not vote for biden, or not vote at all. Trump got biden to disavow the far left, the bernie supporters. I have seen their reaction and they are pissed off at biden, just have to ruffle their feathers a bit more, split the dems and progressives, hell some are saying they will now vote for Trump out of spite
Those are good points and I agree that he was successful in doing that. But it was frustrating to watch the president miss opportunity after opportunity to destroy Wallace and Biden's weak attacks.
Did Trump not read his own executive order on critical race theory? All he had to say was "that executive order condemns any discrimination based on race, or any rules or training in federally funded institutions that subvert the goal of a color blind society. Got a problem with that, Chris?".... Or on "fine people". Good God Mr. President, just say "10 seconds later I said" and I'm not talking about nazis or white supremacists. They should be condemned ", and so Biden's entire campaign launch, and your narrative, is based on a lie"
I could go on and show how he failed to kick their bullshit back in their faces on every setup question because he clearly wasn't prepared to do so. It pissed me the fuck off
Everyone thought Trump lost the debates against Hillary too. Jeb said that he can't bully his way to the Presidency. This is the exact same rhetoric as 2015/2016. Guess what. The American people were too smart for the bullshit and elected President Trump. Have faith, we'll do it again.
I won't lie. The debate was a mess. Trump could've smashed it out of the park but got too emotional and lost control. However, even with all that he was the strongest of the three debaters.
The thing is that Trump's gaffes are the kind of thing where anyone with a brain (and the full context, that's the important part) can figure out what he meant. Context is key.
nobody believes the mainstream media (oxymoron I know, just like every single thing the leftists stand for). at this point I dont think its outlandish to say there isn't a single reputable news source (ok one america is alright) but as far as msm every single source is corrupt or has an agenda. when 4chan is more reliable than actual news then you know there's a big problem
Trump emotional.... bad analysis. He got done what he needed. Way more than the left liked. Trump did so baD dems want to cancel the rest of the debates. This isn't 1960, civility is out rhe windows. We reverted to 1800 election behavior and its are here to stay if we don't rid oursves of brainwashed vermin leftist democrats
I think he was trying to provoke Joe, either for an angry outburst or to super-confuse him. It would have worked if Wallace hadn’t have even throwing his voice and hands into the mix. Wallace didn’t want any of trumps jabs to get thru to the audience.
The President knocked them back on their heels and kept them there all night. He did perfectly. The fools that think you still have to play by their rules are still lost in 2015.
Agree and amplify. They're blaming it on white supremacists. Help them. Convince them that Antifa is white supremacist plot to discredit the left. Force them to become moderates. Force them to abandon their radical crap by calling it white supremacist plots. Reparations? A white supremacist plot to keep the black man dependent on the white man. Immigration? Whitey needs lots of slave labor to keep the system going. Blame everything the far left does on white supremacy and watch the support and funding for all that nonsense dry up. The black caucus is a bunch of house negroes trying to keep the black man down. Black people can be white supremacists, after all.
They're looking for the boogyman. Give them one: themselves.
All you have to do is agree and amplify, pretty soon these ideas are spreading on Tumblr like wild fire. Next thing you know the left is attacking Antifa, abandoning intersectionalism. Agree and amplify. The riots were white supremacists. We saw the people with Molotov's, they were all white. The bail funds were white supremacist mayors protecting their white supremacist friends. The mayor of Oregon is a white supremacist. Agree and amplify. Tie them down with their own strategy and watch the control of their mob crumble.
I personally don't think its fair to hold Biden to any of the lies he told, drugs can make you say weird things and I'd rather the elder abuse of pumping him full of stims get investigated so he can be rescued and spend his very few remaining years with the grand kid he wont acknowledge.
He is rational whether we like it or not. Keep the focus on what happened during the summer of love. Antifa burned down businesses. Trump campaign should have a town hall with people who lost their businesses, jobs and loved ones during that time. Apply the emotional side of normies
That's a good idea but no one will see it because Tucker's bosses and their counterparts in the MSM won't air it.
Cucker is media swamp too. He can't eat and shit on the same plate.
Yup.
The Left has won for decades on emotional appeal. This insane idea that somehow there isn't equality under the law. Really? What the fuck can I do that a woman can't? Or a black man? Or a rhinoceros?
Operation Legend is exactly that. They had round table with families and police
Not Tucker's best work. He never once said the name Chris Wallace. Also calling out the "media" when he should have said Fox News.
THE MSM does not compete... they collude...
That includes FOX NEWS... they don't want each other to 'be the topic' or the 'target' of investigations...
BUT THEY SHOULD BE!!!
Fellow colleague at Fox will not call out the other.
Might be a contract thing.
Yes. This is part of the reason Shepard Smith got his walking papers. He wouldn't leave Tucker alone.
As an employee of Fox News, he focused on what he could. Yes, Chris Wallace sucked and Trump's strategy may have been to push on the cracks in the dem base... however, Tucker does make another important point here.
Much of the population is swayed by emotion, however disingenuous it is. That's why they support BLM and all other manner of leftist movements to begin with! I think Tuck is just saying... "you may be right, but don't forget how these people operate—how they made it as far as they have."
Good comment
i disagree, the white supremacy part at the end was chef's kiss
Tucker defended Jim Acosta's antics also.
I'm a huge Tucker fan but his debate analysis last night wasn't good. He didn't say one word about Chris Wallace. I guess he didn't want to call out a colleague but you can't have an honest discussion about the debate without talking about the moderator's role. Especially after Wallace's abject liberal shit show. Victor Davis Hanson's take on it was good. He's always good.
Carlson is there to keep you hooked and will throw the President under the bus when he gets the chance, just like Hugh Hewitt.
Downvoted, because when you repeat post, it shows that you have no fucking manners
Eh, I roll like the President.
this isnt a speech. or conversation. its text. Very annoying to read spam. It doesn't make your statement more forceful or why ever you do it. It just makes people ignore you. And is annoying as fuck. You only need to type something once and it is there for anyone to read over and over, its not like speech where its a one time thing and when the soundwaves disperse, its gone.
Idk man, I totally enjoyed the brawl. I loved watching Trump go hard.
This whole narrative of "depressing, aggressive blah blah blah" is such cowardice, I can't stand such whimpering.
I did too. I loved every minute of it and was bummed when it was over so soon.
I too enjoyed it. It wasn’t a proper debate that’s for sure. That issue would be solved if we had a proper moderator. It was still entertaining because it was 2 v 1.
My mother has been grumbling a lot about how she couldn't take the "stress" of the debate.
The title of this post suggests Tucker went after Trump, but after watching the video, it doesn't exactly show it.
His first statement of the debate being "painful and depressing" sort of does, but from pov of the message Tucker has put out there repeatedly: "So-called Republicans and Conservatives are allowing this insanity to go on unchecked and without true justice". Similar to what has been expressed on this site. Two-tiered justice system, arrests of innocent people, terrorists being let go next day, time for more Kyle's, etc. I interpreted Tucker's statement, after saying America is the best place with the best people, as "but not really if Biden is currently not being laughed at but actually supported".
The rest of the video, Tucker goes on to say 1) Biden is not senile, but an unashamed liar, 2) Democrats/terrorists hate this country and are planning revolution, 3) Tone wins over "feelings over facts" people, and 4) Biden failed to address obvious terrorism over last couple of months.
He doesn't mention wallace, but that's just professional courtesy and protecting his job. Morally questionable, but understandable. He said enough for his viewers who already know wallace is scum.
its another disingenuous narrative frame to scare cuck RINO conservatives, it didnt work last time and they should know better.
Carlson doesn't understand Trump's strategy.
Wallace and Biden played their part as best they could, whining and crying while actively stomping on Trump. Typical crybully behavior.
Anyone who thinks Trump was so un-civil needs to re-watch the debate with a fresh point of view. In the moment the whole thing felt uncomfortable because of Wallace and Biden's coordinated crybullying.
I for one remember the 2016 debates all too well and found this debate frustrating because of the obvious ridiculous bullshit.
I don’t think a lot of people will. That’s kind of the problem
You don't have to understand the strategy for it to be effective.
When 66% of Telemundo viewers and C-SPAN viewers said Trump won, he won.
Wow ! Thanks
Looking at c-span now, it is 69% of 300k respondents saying Trump won
Wow, I didn't realize it was still ongoing - thanks!
Dear God, please let those be the election results. :)
Got a link to that poll? I need to drop it on my liberal friend.
https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1311134050644615168
Did they really? I didn’t see that.
I didn’t say it wouldn’t be effective, I just think it could have been more effective. The debate kind of turned off some people who I had been convincing to vote Trump, and it was sad to see. Though I think Biden lost far more votes that night.
Yes, and the C-SPAN poll is now up to 69% "Trump won."
It is sad if someone's mind can be changed against Trump based on one debate. Maybe you can get them to see it another way, with Wallace so obviously biased and helping Joe.
Yes it is sad. And it’s precisely because people don’t pay attention. It’s a harsh reality that we do have to cater to these people to some degree. Unless they truly are right that it’s a base election, which it very well could be.
They still definitely aren’t voting Biden though so I guess that’s a plus.
Yes, that's a plus. Good work!
You can't cater to the middle of the road so much that you get nothing done. Trump was absolutely brutal in the 2016 primary debates. If he hadn't been, he wouldn't have even become the nominee, let alone been elected.
Yeah I agree with that. I don’t think it hurt him by much in the long run, I just wish he would have done a bit better on some things. The first 20 minutes were a total shitshow and it was definitely too much.
I dont see why. To me its so obvious I roll my eyes when I see people like Tucker shit the bed in regards to it. Clearly he is smart enough to understand, but he isnt alone. Styx and others made the same mistake. Really annoying and dumb, "to be fair" why? Why focus on being fair, just be real about it. Nobody cares about fair. They just want to win. Ask the Antifa dorks about that.
Tucker wants an intellectual debate like in his college debate club. The average voter doesn't understand the details of the policies anyway and just wants to see how the candidates react under stress and if they won't get bullied.
Intellectual debate?
This is WWIII.
And it's a hot war.
Trump did exactly the right thing.
Wallace and Biden were doing some seriously coordinated crybullying.
As I have said, when you are walking into a trap you don't play by their rules.
I’m not saying it makes sense. If people really paid attention, they would see Trump accomplished the mission he set out to do.
But people don’t pay attention. A vast majority of people don’t, just look at the reaction. And Trump should know that. He’s not at a rally.
Overall I think he did well by forcing Biden to take or flip flop on radical positions. I just don’t think he won over any new voters. I don’t think that was his intent either, but some things he just could have handled better.
I don’t mind ‘to be fair’ and whatever comes after it. When you watch a show, eg Mourning Joe and Mika, and it is clearly parsing the good for Biden and the negative on Trump, my mind discounts everything that comes out of their mouths.
I’ve seen all the MSM, including Fox, use smears that took these candidates out of context in order to make their points.
To Fox hosts and contributors; Biden messes up enough on his own. No need to ruin your credibility by pulling dirty tricks on his ‘innocent’ mistakes that anyone could make, just to score points for Trump. It insults us.
Nah, he's spot on. Trump was unprepared, and I can admit to thinking Biden was mentally gone when it's clear he's not. I've watched too many chopped videos of his worst moments.
Trump is the man, but there's plenty he's done wrong. Not firing Wray's seditious ass is fucking him hard right now. The FBI is not going to do any investigating of all the voter fraud, and they won't even admit Antifa is a problem.
The goal of the debate was to rattle biden, find his weak spots, and mainly to divide the left. The people that won't vote for Trump will not be convinced to vote for him at this point...but they can be convinced to not vote for biden, or not vote at all. Trump got biden to disavow the far left, the bernie supporters. I have seen their reaction and they are pissed off at biden, just have to ruffle their feathers a bit more, split the dems and progressives, hell some are saying they will now vote for Trump out of spite
Those are good points and I agree that he was successful in doing that. But it was frustrating to watch the president miss opportunity after opportunity to destroy Wallace and Biden's weak attacks.
Did Trump not read his own executive order on critical race theory? All he had to say was "that executive order condemns any discrimination based on race, or any rules or training in federally funded institutions that subvert the goal of a color blind society. Got a problem with that, Chris?".... Or on "fine people". Good God Mr. President, just say "10 seconds later I said" and I'm not talking about nazis or white supremacists. They should be condemned ", and so Biden's entire campaign launch, and your narrative, is based on a lie"
I could go on and show how he failed to kick their bullshit back in their faces on every setup question because he clearly wasn't prepared to do so. It pissed me the fuck off
Carlson is there to keep you hooked and will throw the President under the bus when he gets the chance, just like Hugh Hewitt.
Everyone thought Trump lost the debates against Hillary too. Jeb said that he can't bully his way to the Presidency. This is the exact same rhetoric as 2015/2016. Guess what. The American people were too smart for the bullshit and elected President Trump. Have faith, we'll do it again.
I won't lie. The debate was a mess. Trump could've smashed it out of the park but got too emotional and lost control. However, even with all that he was the strongest of the three debaters.
It was 2 on 1 the whole night...
But I think Trump does not 'speak clearly' - and the MEDIA WORDSMITHS ALTER HIS INTENT '100% of the time...
Trump is a perfect target for the MSM... the DoubleSpeak crowd.
The thing is that Trump's gaffes are the kind of thing where anyone with a brain (and the full context, that's the important part) can figure out what he meant. Context is key.
The Media, though, says context is racist.
nobody believes the mainstream media (oxymoron I know, just like every single thing the leftists stand for). at this point I dont think its outlandish to say there isn't a single reputable news source (ok one america is alright) but as far as msm every single source is corrupt or has an agenda. when 4chan is more reliable than actual news then you know there's a big problem
Trump emotional.... bad analysis. He got done what he needed. Way more than the left liked. Trump did so baD dems want to cancel the rest of the debates. This isn't 1960, civility is out rhe windows. We reverted to 1800 election behavior and its are here to stay if we don't rid oursves of brainwashed vermin leftist democrats
Completely disagree with you and Carlson on this.
Nah bro he did what needed to happen
I think he was trying to provoke Joe, either for an angry outburst or to super-confuse him. It would have worked if Wallace hadn’t have even throwing his voice and hands into the mix. Wallace didn’t want any of trumps jabs to get thru to the audience.
The President knocked them back on their heels and kept them there all night. He did perfectly. The fools that think you still have to play by their rules are still lost in 2015.
I won't lie.
Tucker 2024.
Boden opened his mouth...all that can fall out are lies.
Tucker and hannity are practically carrying Fox at this point.
i really think people who go on about the tone of their speaking and all that crap are seriously underestimating the voters
nobody's going to vote for someone because they spoke more calmly
The comments here make me happy.
Go to OANN. Take us and your high ratings with you.
The Orr at the end worries me the most: if they can make us accept a lie this big, what’s next??
This is communist authoritarian disinformation 101 and we’re watching it LIVE...
WE HAVE TO FIGHT BACK....
KEYBOARD WARRIORS....
Copy and past vids like this one.. with Trump disavowing White Nationalists 20 times ON VIDEO - IN FRONT OF THE MSM -
https://streamable.com/sr9o2s
LEAVE IT BEHIND everywhere you go... If EVERYONE LEAVES A TRAIL OF BREAD CRUMBS.. AMERICA WILL GET OUT OF THE WOODS.
Great synopsis.
"Trump could make a wine list sound menacing".
ded
Agree and amplify. They're blaming it on white supremacists. Help them. Convince them that Antifa is white supremacist plot to discredit the left. Force them to become moderates. Force them to abandon their radical crap by calling it white supremacist plots. Reparations? A white supremacist plot to keep the black man dependent on the white man. Immigration? Whitey needs lots of slave labor to keep the system going. Blame everything the far left does on white supremacy and watch the support and funding for all that nonsense dry up. The black caucus is a bunch of house negroes trying to keep the black man down. Black people can be white supremacists, after all.
They're looking for the boogyman. Give them one: themselves.
All you have to do is agree and amplify, pretty soon these ideas are spreading on Tumblr like wild fire. Next thing you know the left is attacking Antifa, abandoning intersectionalism. Agree and amplify. The riots were white supremacists. We saw the people with Molotov's, they were all white. The bail funds were white supremacist mayors protecting their white supremacist friends. The mayor of Oregon is a white supremacist. Agree and amplify. Tie them down with their own strategy and watch the control of their mob crumble.
Cuck as the day is long
I personally don't think its fair to hold Biden to any of the lies he told, drugs can make you say weird things and I'd rather the elder abuse of pumping him full of stims get investigated so he can be rescued and spend his very few remaining years with the grand kid he wont acknowledge.
Biden is a low-life piece of trash.
I feel a little bad for him, but not much.
And they probably shouldn't let him around that grandkid. He's a child abuser, in my opinion.