"We need to deport upwards of 10 million illegal immigrants in America, and we also need to take away citizenship from their children and deport them as well."
If we could snap out fingers and have it done, I'd agree with you. However, we cannot. Try to imagine the changes to our Constitution and the vast increase in Federal law enforcement that would have to occur to enact this policy. I'm not being snarky; really true to sketch out the resources and changes to the Bill of Rights that would have to occur to do it.
We would lose our country as surely by doing it as we are by not.
I think the only way is to secure the border, reduce all legal immigration, eliminate the birthright citizenship going forward, eliminate all benefits without proof of citizenship, and deport anyone who is here illegally who comes up on the radar for other reasons (whether misdemeanor or felony doesn't matter). Also, ankle bracelets for anyone pending a deportation hearing. No more just "not showing up."
We have to make America a hostile place for illegal immigrants. I do not think people understand the long-term consequences of a mass influx of foreign people like this It's really never been done before, except in places that got conquered......which is what's happening to us.
No disagreement. However, I don't want to hire 500,000 federal agents with the "right" to stop people and demand to see their papers at any time for any reason.
Unless there are caught committing some crime other than presence, you cannot find them without destroying Freedom for everybody, and I don't want to see that happen.
Disagree. You can aggressively profile brown people with accents. We need to have a period of time where we aggressively profile, investigate and deport people. Whatever it takes to make that happen, I am fine with it. I am not even slightly concerned about violating the rights of illegal immigrants in america.
You miss my point. How many federal officers do you want to hire and empower to "stop and frisk" anybody the see on the street at any time and demand to see our papers? 500,000? 1,000,000?
Fuck that; if we create East Germany then we're lost anyway.
"We need to deport upwards of 10 million illegal immigrants in America, and we also need to take away citizenship from their children and deport them as well."
If we could snap out fingers and have it done, I'd agree with you. However, we cannot. Try to imagine the changes to our Constitution and the vast increase in Federal law enforcement that would have to occur to enact this policy. I'm not being snarky; really true to sketch out the resources and changes to the Bill of Rights that would have to occur to do it.
We would lose our country as surely by doing it as we are by not.
I think the only way is to secure the border, reduce all legal immigration, eliminate the birthright citizenship going forward, eliminate all benefits without proof of citizenship, and deport anyone who is here illegally who comes up on the radar for other reasons (whether misdemeanor or felony doesn't matter). Also, ankle bracelets for anyone pending a deportation hearing. No more just "not showing up."
We have to make America a hostile place for illegal immigrants. I do not think people understand the long-term consequences of a mass influx of foreign people like this It's really never been done before, except in places that got conquered......which is what's happening to us.
No disagreement. However, I don't want to hire 500,000 federal agents with the "right" to stop people and demand to see their papers at any time for any reason.
Unless there are caught committing some crime other than presence, you cannot find them without destroying Freedom for everybody, and I don't want to see that happen.
Disagree. You can aggressively profile brown people with accents. We need to have a period of time where we aggressively profile, investigate and deport people. Whatever it takes to make that happen, I am fine with it. I am not even slightly concerned about violating the rights of illegal immigrants in america.
We need chain-deportation to fight chain-migration. The children would be eligible to reapply, however they have to go to the back of the line.
"Deport them anyway. "
You miss my point. How many federal officers do you want to hire and empower to "stop and frisk" anybody the see on the street at any time and demand to see our papers? 500,000? 1,000,000?
Fuck that; if we create East Germany then we're lost anyway.
What is your plan to remove 30 miliion people without stopping and demanding proof of citizenship from everybody on the street for the next 10 years??
Or NOT! How the fuck do you, I , or any other person know if the guy walking down the street is here illegaly?