Only the deep state gets to determine what is the problem. And to them they are trying to categorize white Americans with guns as the problem. They bucket “white supremacists” or any trump supporter into this and try to also get militias included too. Don’t let them get away with this doublespeak
That is why we should stop saying” Dems are the real racists or Dems are the real white supremacists” because it validates the left idea that their made up terms”racists” and “white supremacists” which they only or mostly apply to whites.
Trump won in 2016 because inmigration and trade wasn't an approved topic by the Deep State. He is making the mistake now of surrendering to their narrative wishes.He need to call them out constantly .
Talk to Barr and Wray .. the only problem people that those two could find and show on TV, after 2 months of violence, were three larpers in Hawaiian shirts who called themselves "Boogaloo Boys".
Barr and Wray gave the left cover to spew the muh white supremacists narrative.
The position of Wray and the FBI on subject of national security threats is absolutely appalling. Their "head in sand" approach has caused a lot of the problems we are seeing in the streets today. Trump had damn well better clear house at the FBI after the election, if not sooner.
Yeah, that's so fucking irritating. Anyone paying attention knows that's not true. I can't believe how full of shit so many people are just because they don't like Donald Trump. It's like 1984 and Idiocracy all rolled into one.
It's magical ancient type thinking from the people who love to use the word 'science' in every other sentence. This is hocus-pocus superstition akin to thinking that witches turn people into toads. It's time we start requiring periodic literacy exams and not let wilfully ignorant people be involved in anything other than digging ditches and breaking rocks.
But white supremacists (any white person who doesnt hate their own race) have committed wrongthink while being white, and thats the most heinous crime imaginable.
See he "refused" to do it during the debate. All previous denouncements are void until denouncing on demand, again. So since he only said he was willing to denounce them but didn't specifically say at that moment that he is denouncing them in this moment, it is not true that he denounced them during the debate (despite the fact that he has been denouncing them publicly for 30 years).
Joe why were you for segregation and publicly state you didn't want your kids growing up in a racial jungle? Why were you best buds with a klansman even giving a eulogy at his funeral? Those are just 2 of the many examples of Biden being a pos racist pos but they want to ask about shit Trump has denounced over and over and over!
trump needs to be better briefed for the debate. Why does Biden think he can tell people if they are black or not based on how they feel about him, why would he ever think its appropriate to say Obama was the first clean and articulate black politician? Why does Biden think its appropriate to claim he went to an HBC? There is just so much to go after him on, Trump needs to take a breath and meticulously go to task.
Since I know exactly how they think, which is "if the "right" wing is doing more terrorism since the day after 9/11 that makes them collectively biologically inferior so we get guilty until proven innocent standard" let's just inject the study that says 95% of riots linked to BLM.
You know, that's exactly what these Marxists have been doing. It's bewildering at first because racial statements usually are to the benefit of that race, but in the end it's all about power. Non-profit organizations lying to keep their net-income also seems to fit in this rubric.
i think the perfect response would be "of course I unequivocally disavow all white supremacists, but they are not the cause of violence today." And then lay out all the facts if the interviewer doesnt cut the mic
I don’t know why Trump didn’t criticize BLM.BLM is a huge threat also and they are the group which houses anti-white views and directly lie about police engagement with black criminals.
he pushes harder on ANTIFA and kkk than BLM.BLM should be targeted.
I fully believe that Trump does not in any way, shape, or form support any kind of racial supremacy or any groups that espouse such ideas.
I am aware that on countless occasions, he has publicly condemned such groups and ideas.
When the question was first posed, they were asking him to put all the rioting and violence squarely on the right wing, and to label them as racists. At that point, I feel he made the right call refusing to answer and turning it back onto BLM and Antifa.
However, they immediately pivoted the question to simply asking him to say the words "white supremacists are bad." And it's because I know he doesn't support white supremacy, and because I know he has no issue with condemning white supremacy publicly, that I am at a loss for why he danced around it and started talking to Proud Boys and asking for a specific term to condemn instead of just giving an answer like the one you suggested.
Well there’s a precedent set now. He just needs to say white supremacy is an idea. Bring me a white supremacist and I’ll condemn them. Show me the actions of a single one. And no, trying to drive on a public road through a BLM blockade doesn’t count.
No Democrat voter cares about that.do you think that people like Joy Reid,AOC and Al sharpton don’t know that? Lot of Democrat voters are after their own nihilistic selfish interest.
Kkk and Jim Crow are bad but it doesn’t help us as much as you think.
I wish a politician would just say: "Know what? Fuck all this disavowing bullshit. Use common sense if you have it. I'm not spending every interview telling everyone what's good and what's evil."
Inadvertently, what he actually said did pretty much exactly that. They said "disavow white supremacists and racists right now" and his only response was directed to the Proud Boys. How are they supposed to see that as anything but him calling them white supremacists and racists?
SO FUCKING STOOOOPID. HE DOESNT HAVE TO!! IT IS NOT AN ISSUE!!
THESE ANIMALS ARE DEMANDING, "SAY THE WORDS AGAIN AND AGAIN!!!" MEANWHILE, THEIR HOUSE IS ON FIRE AND THEYRE BITCHING AT US TO MOW OUR LAWN. Yea, grass is a bit long but, dude!! Yer whole house is on fire..FUCKING LITERALLY...and this is what we're stuck on and forced to talk about. grrrrrrrr.
Mark Klose on 97.1 fm ( STL ) had an audio montage of Trump saying “ I denounce the KKK.. I denounce David Duke” it was like 30 seconds long from a variety of clips
Snopes was started by some idiotic couple, now divorced since the husband was caught using money owed to the ex wife on hookers and cocaine. They have not journalism experience.
Not wanting to dance their dance doesn't make him a racist.
Bending over and letting someone else dictate and frame your behavior is for cucks. It's the same as BLM fags forcing people on patios to raise their fists and say black lives matter.
Yeah. Black lives DO matter. But I'm not going to capitulate to your Marxist tactics. Go fuck yourselves, I'm not saying it.
I don’t even say black lives do matter.i ask the dickheads why they think black lives do not matter.saying”black lives matter but I hate the organization “ or “ all lives matter” Is good but we have to start questioning liberals on why they believe all these crap from the MSM.
These morons want him to denounce "white supremacist" groups, by denouncing the Proud Boys. Problem is, if you denounce the Proud Boys, you are not denouncing white supremacy, because the Proud Boys aren't "white supremacists".
That's a nice little trick that Chris and Joe pulled, together. The president shouldn't denounce the Proud Boys, because they aren't white supremacists, and they don't really do anything wrong..... other then maybe get into a few fights, that nobody ever really knows who started them, but they always get blamed..... because they usually win.
Show me one video where the Proud Boys are just blatantly destroying public, and/or personal, property. It's amazing to me that the uninformed think the "anti facists", who Burn Loot and Murder, are the good guys, and the Proud Boys, who protect free speech and clean up after themselves, are the bad guys.
Where the meme video “will he disavow” it was from like carpe donktum or something like that and it was a compilation through 2016 of him disavowing this shit and doesn’t even include his recent condemning.
It’s like gone.
I’m fucking sick of the MSM trying to control people like puppets. “Say this. Say that. Here’s another group say this.” Fuck you Chris Wallace. Fuck you GOP. But don’t fuck the Dems. You’ll catch something.
What have the proud boys even done that deserves condemning. Seriously? Showing up and saying “cut your bullshit” to domestic terrorist groups like antifa and BLm? Being arrested for self defense? Ok? And? Sounds like the fuckin problem is antifa and BLm.
And fuck Chris Wallace again by framing questions like “America has gotten more violent under you, what are you going to do to stop ... blah blah will you condemn white supremacy “ like... dumbass. That won’t stop the violence these people are seeing. If you wiped out the proud boys, antifa and BLm would still be burning shit down.
This is just another virtue signaling tactic by the left to get someone to dance and jump through hoops in front of them. The counter to this is place a demand back on them. "I've already condemned them, but have YOU condemned the violence by antifa or blm?"
"Have YOU condemned the mass murder of babies and selling of their body parts for profit?"
Is there a page or pastebin or something collecting all these snopes lying images? I have 3 so far but would love to see more in this same format. Whoever is doing these, fantastic job - makes it impossible to deny the bias.
The time in the debate spent talking about “proud boys” and “white supremacy” was wasted time in all of our lives we will never get back.
Trying to get Trump to denounce proud boys and his own supporters was a sad, OBVIOUS sign that the Dems are worried there cause will be overshadowed by patriots who simply aren’t going to let the country drown
That was a bullshit question from Wallace it’s like me asking you if you will commit to stop sucking dick - when you reply that you don’t suck dick, so you WONT STOP!
What is this double-think of a Snopes "fact check". One sentence says that "he did not do that" in regards to condemning white supremacists. Then, the other sentence clearly gives a quote of him doing precisely that.
Whenever someone tells you that something is "mixed" in truth, you know they're full of shit.
This is a great example. Keep them coming. I red pill lots of my liberal friends with obvious fact checking bias. Bode Lang on YouTube has great videos on the subject.
And when he asked who specifically to condemn Biden said "proud boys". Who aren't white supremacist and aren't committing any violence.
I admit I didn't know who the proud boys were so I looked it up. Seems like a good group to join to be honest. I'm considering it if there is a chapter where I live.
Please refrain from pushing Snopes - even if they aren't lying for once. They tell the truth on occasion so they can lie more efficiently in the future
Fuck Snopes, don't use it.
We need to wholesale stop using services of people who hate us from the outset. Which would probably include just cancelling TV altogether. Fuck them.
No, don't link to that fake "fact-checker" site. Nothing but a divorced couple and the ex-husband's new wife with google and a lot of time on their hands. And a leftist agenda.
Personally I thought it was kind of weird that Trump did not denounce white supremacists. However he did specifically ask for names of white supremacists groups rather than denounce a general label of “white supremacists”. Then he asked Biden to denounce a specific group (Antifa), to which Biden did not do so idk what to think of it honestly. Either way if Trump is racist then Biden would also have to be for not denouncing groups that commit crimes against non-African Americans
White Supremacists aren't doing the rioting, looting, arson, murders, rapes, robberies, assaults, vandalism, anarchy.
Fuck any person who says white supremacists are a problem in this country.
Only the deep state gets to determine what is the problem. And to them they are trying to categorize white Americans with guns as the problem. They bucket “white supremacists” or any trump supporter into this and try to also get militias included too. Don’t let them get away with this doublespeak
That is why we should stop saying” Dems are the real racists or Dems are the real white supremacists” because it validates the left idea that their made up terms”racists” and “white supremacists” which they only or mostly apply to whites.
FBI Director Wray says that white supremacy is the number one problem.
He also says that that antifa is just an idea - giving Biden an opening for a zinger at the debate.
This mother-effer Wray is doing more for the Democrats than AOC, Schumer and Nadler together.
Translation: Whites who care about America and their way of life are the number one problem to the Left's attempt to grab totalitarian power.
Trump won in 2016 because inmigration and trade wasn't an approved topic by the Deep State. He is making the mistake now of surrendering to their narrative wishes.He need to call them out constantly .
Narrative is Covid+BLM+Climate Hoax.
Talk to Barr and Wray .. the only problem people that those two could find and show on TV, after 2 months of violence, were three larpers in Hawaiian shirts who called themselves "Boogaloo Boys".
Barr and Wray gave the left cover to spew the muh white supremacists narrative.
Isn't that interesting?
The position of Wray and the FBI on subject of national security threats is absolutely appalling. Their "head in sand" approach has caused a lot of the problems we are seeing in the streets today. Trump had damn well better clear house at the FBI after the election, if not sooner.
Exactly. Wray's "leadership" at the FBI has been one of the top 3 factors in enabling the violence and mayhem of the past 4 months.
Yeah, that's so fucking irritating. Anyone paying attention knows that's not true. I can't believe how full of shit so many people are just because they don't like Donald Trump. It's like 1984 and Idiocracy all rolled into one.
Barr too ? I thought Wray was the one actively spewing Dem propaganda.
I got the impression that Barr is just ignoring the whole thing.
And who are these white supremacists anyway? Any white person who doesn't vote straight D??
It appears to be any white person who declines to hate the white race and declines to hate all aspects of white history and culture.
Seriously. Wish the above was a joke, but with today's Left that's what it's really come down to.
These motherfuckers act like the KKK is behind every corner and down every alleyway. It's so damn stupid that it makes your head hurt.
There's probably like 9 members of the kkk these days.
lol Okay, possibly a few more. Possibly.
They're all feds.
lol
Probably
It's magical ancient type thinking from the people who love to use the word 'science' in every other sentence. This is hocus-pocus superstition akin to thinking that witches turn people into toads. It's time we start requiring periodic literacy exams and not let wilfully ignorant people be involved in anything other than digging ditches and breaking rocks.
But white supremacists (any white person who doesnt hate their own race) have committed wrongthink while being white, and thats the most heinous crime imaginable.
Looks like somebody at Snopes is going to get fired by Soros
They already did August 15 2017.
See he "refused" to do it during the debate. All previous denouncements are void until denouncing on demand, again. So since he only said he was willing to denounce them but didn't specifically say at that moment that he is denouncing them in this moment, it is not true that he denounced them during the debate (despite the fact that he has been denouncing them publicly for 30 years).
GOTEM!
He didn't even refuse to in the debate. They asked if he would condemn them and he immediately said sure. God the media pisses me off so much.
Then they said condemn proud boys, and now half the country thinks the proud boys are white supremacists.
Joe why were you for segregation and publicly state you didn't want your kids growing up in a racial jungle? Why were you best buds with a klansman even giving a eulogy at his funeral? Those are just 2 of the many examples of Biden being a pos racist pos but they want to ask about shit Trump has denounced over and over and over!
trump needs to be better briefed for the debate. Why does Biden think he can tell people if they are black or not based on how they feel about him, why would he ever think its appropriate to say Obama was the first clean and articulate black politician? Why does Biden think its appropriate to claim he went to an HBC? There is just so much to go after him on, Trump needs to take a breath and meticulously go to task.
Since I know exactly how they think, which is "if the "right" wing is doing more terrorism since the day after 9/11 that makes them collectively biologically inferior so we get guilty until proven innocent standard" let's just inject the study that says 95% of riots linked to BLM.
To the Biden supporter who made the mistake of starting with the low effort comments until getting to this, I'm laughing at you.
Will you denounce Hitler and the militia?! MR PRESIDENT
Will you denounce the KKK and the 2A?! MR PRESIDENT?
See he didn’t denounce the KKK WHAT A DICTATOR
You know, that's exactly what these Marxists have been doing. It's bewildering at first because racial statements usually are to the benefit of that race, but in the end it's all about power. Non-profit organizations lying to keep their net-income also seems to fit in this rubric.
A-fucking-men
To the tune of 95%, specifically.
Trump should stop condemning white supremacists whenever he is asked.it is a trap and many whites here are falling for it.
I condemn the last two dozen white supreeeeeemes that exist in the US and their allies that make up the entirety of the left.
well this is exactly what happens when he doesnt. Its a lose-lose for him and the media knows it.
The media would still call him that if he denounces them.we have to start turning their questions on them.
i think the perfect response would be "of course I unequivocally disavow all white supremacists, but they are not the cause of violence today." And then lay out all the facts if the interviewer doesnt cut the mic
I don’t know why Trump didn’t criticize BLM.BLM is a huge threat also and they are the group which houses anti-white views and directly lie about police engagement with black criminals. he pushes harder on ANTIFA and kkk than BLM.BLM should be targeted.
I fully believe that Trump does not in any way, shape, or form support any kind of racial supremacy or any groups that espouse such ideas.
I am aware that on countless occasions, he has publicly condemned such groups and ideas.
When the question was first posed, they were asking him to put all the rioting and violence squarely on the right wing, and to label them as racists. At that point, I feel he made the right call refusing to answer and turning it back onto BLM and Antifa.
However, they immediately pivoted the question to simply asking him to say the words "white supremacists are bad." And it's because I know he doesn't support white supremacy, and because I know he has no issue with condemning white supremacy publicly, that I am at a loss for why he danced around it and started talking to Proud Boys and asking for a specific term to condemn instead of just giving an answer like the one you suggested.
or just say "i already have but the fake news lies about me anyways"
Then people who care can look up the times he has done it already.
Well there’s a precedent set now. He just needs to say white supremacy is an idea. Bring me a white supremacist and I’ll condemn them. Show me the actions of a single one. And no, trying to drive on a public road through a BLM blockade doesn’t count.
No, he should always condemn them and in the same sentence state that the Democrat Party founded the KKK and Jim Crow laws.
No Democrat voter cares about that.do you think that people like Joy Reid,AOC and Al sharpton don’t know that? Lot of Democrat voters are after their own nihilistic selfish interest. Kkk and Jim Crow are bad but it doesn’t help us as much as you think.
I know that a lot of young people and even older people never learned this. Ithink it should embarrass them to be associated with the left.
No, he should never condemn them period as long as it's a leftist prompting it.
Stop. giving. them. the initiative.
IT'S OK TO BE WHITE
Somebody like lou dobbs or tucker needs to point this out and claim how snopes is not a fact checker but a propaganda machine!
So that more normies find out
Snopes said the Biden stupid bastards thing was mostly false because it was "a joke"
I wish a politician would just say: "Know what? Fuck all this disavowing bullshit. Use common sense if you have it. I'm not spending every interview telling everyone what's good and what's evil."
"I condemn all forms of evil and violence, next question.."
This isn't bad, but they'll twist it:
"Trump admits Proud Boys (or insert organization here) are evil and violent!"
Inadvertently, what he actually said did pretty much exactly that. They said "disavow white supremacists and racists right now" and his only response was directed to the Proud Boys. How are they supposed to see that as anything but him calling them white supremacists and racists?
SO FUCKING STOOOOPID. HE DOESNT HAVE TO!! IT IS NOT AN ISSUE!! THESE ANIMALS ARE DEMANDING, "SAY THE WORDS AGAIN AND AGAIN!!!" MEANWHILE, THEIR HOUSE IS ON FIRE AND THEYRE BITCHING AT US TO MOW OUR LAWN. Yea, grass is a bit long but, dude!! Yer whole house is on fire..FUCKING LITERALLY...and this is what we're stuck on and forced to talk about. grrrrrrrr.
Snopes. YOU ARE FAKE NEWS!
This is all so tiresome. And yet, I still don't know who or where all these supposed "white supremacists" are.
Where's the ramen guy when you need him?
"...and I'm not talking about the neo-nazis and white supremacists, because they should be condemned, totally."
Mark Klose on 97.1 fm ( STL ) had an audio montage of Trump saying “ I denounce the KKK.. I denounce David Duke” it was like 30 seconds long from a variety of clips
Snopes was started by some idiotic couple, now divorced since the husband was caught using money owed to the ex wife on hookers and cocaine. They have not journalism experience.
Not wanting to dance their dance doesn't make him a racist.
Bending over and letting someone else dictate and frame your behavior is for cucks. It's the same as BLM fags forcing people on patios to raise their fists and say black lives matter.
Yeah. Black lives DO matter. But I'm not going to capitulate to your Marxist tactics. Go fuck yourselves, I'm not saying it.
I don’t even say black lives do matter.i ask the dickheads why they think black lives do not matter.saying”black lives matter but I hate the organization “ or “ all lives matter” Is good but we have to start questioning liberals on why they believe all these crap from the MSM.
Snopes is fake news: True ✅
Easiest way to spot the blatant lies of the media is to realize they put "Fact Check" in front of them.
Trump should have asked Joe to condemn pedofiles
These morons want him to denounce "white supremacist" groups, by denouncing the Proud Boys. Problem is, if you denounce the Proud Boys, you are not denouncing white supremacy, because the Proud Boys aren't "white supremacists".
That's a nice little trick that Chris and Joe pulled, together. The president shouldn't denounce the Proud Boys, because they aren't white supremacists, and they don't really do anything wrong..... other then maybe get into a few fights, that nobody ever really knows who started them, but they always get blamed..... because they usually win.
Show me one video where the Proud Boys are just blatantly destroying public, and/or personal, property. It's amazing to me that the uninformed think the "anti facists", who Burn Loot and Murder, are the good guys, and the Proud Boys, who protect free speech and clean up after themselves, are the bad guys.
Where the meme video “will he disavow” it was from like carpe donktum or something like that and it was a compilation through 2016 of him disavowing this shit and doesn’t even include his recent condemning.
It’s like gone.
I’m fucking sick of the MSM trying to control people like puppets. “Say this. Say that. Here’s another group say this.” Fuck you Chris Wallace. Fuck you GOP. But don’t fuck the Dems. You’ll catch something.
What have the proud boys even done that deserves condemning. Seriously? Showing up and saying “cut your bullshit” to domestic terrorist groups like antifa and BLm? Being arrested for self defense? Ok? And? Sounds like the fuckin problem is antifa and BLm.
And fuck Chris Wallace again by framing questions like “America has gotten more violent under you, what are you going to do to stop ... blah blah will you condemn white supremacy “ like... dumbass. That won’t stop the violence these people are seeing. If you wiped out the proud boys, antifa and BLm would still be burning shit down.
Wipe out antifa and BLm however.....
This is just another virtue signaling tactic by the left to get someone to dance and jump through hoops in front of them. The counter to this is place a demand back on them. "I've already condemned them, but have YOU condemned the violence by antifa or blm?"
"Have YOU condemned the mass murder of babies and selling of their body parts for profit?"
They said white supremacists and militias. Militias aren’t white supremacist!
DISAVOW NAZIS AND BANANAS!
Is there a page or pastebin or something collecting all these snopes lying images? I have 3 so far but would love to see more in this same format. Whoever is doing these, fantastic job - makes it impossible to deny the bias.
The time in the debate spent talking about “proud boys” and “white supremacy” was wasted time in all of our lives we will never get back.
Trying to get Trump to denounce proud boys and his own supporters was a sad, OBVIOUS sign that the Dems are worried there cause will be overshadowed by patriots who simply aren’t going to let the country drown
That was a bullshit question from Wallace it’s like me asking you if you will commit to stop sucking dick - when you reply that you don’t suck dick, so you WONT STOP!
That would be a great question for Kamala at the VP debates /laughsinWillieBrown
It’s snopes, what do you expect? They’re a major part of the deep state’s Ministry of Truth.
What is this double-think of a Snopes "fact check". One sentence says that "he did not do that" in regards to condemning white supremacists. Then, the other sentence clearly gives a quote of him doing precisely that.
Whenever someone tells you that something is "mixed" in truth, you know they're full of shit.
This is a great example. Keep them coming. I red pill lots of my liberal friends with obvious fact checking bias. Bode Lang on YouTube has great videos on the subject.
https://youtu.be/D77CadhzqxM
https://youtu.be/2WTPDx5095g
Biden said Antifa didn’t even exist. Who the fuck is shooting people in the streets of Portland and burning down your cities, Joe?
And when he asked who specifically to condemn Biden said "proud boys". Who aren't white supremacist and aren't committing any violence. I admit I didn't know who the proud boys were so I looked it up. Seems like a good group to join to be honest. I'm considering it if there is a chapter where I live.
Please refrain from pushing Snopes - even if they aren't lying for once. They tell the truth on occasion so they can lie more efficiently in the future
More bullshit from some biden shrills, who are nothing but the enemy of the republic.
Fuck Snopes, don't use it.
We need to wholesale stop using services of people who hate us from the outset. Which would probably include just cancelling TV altogether. Fuck them.
Since when is answering "sure" to the question "will you condemn white supremacists?" Not an explicit condemnation?
Anyone that uses Snopes has already made their mind up.
He has condemned it many times https://streamable.com/sr9o2s
isn't snopes run by a pornstar?
link?
No, don't link to that fake "fact-checker" site. Nothing but a divorced couple and the ex-husband's new wife with google and a lot of time on their hands. And a leftist agenda.
I just watched him say, “Sure,” about 1,000 times. https://youtu.be/W7v_jDIqnyw
Personally I thought it was kind of weird that Trump did not denounce white supremacists. However he did specifically ask for names of white supremacists groups rather than denounce a general label of “white supremacists”. Then he asked Biden to denounce a specific group (Antifa), to which Biden did not do so idk what to think of it honestly. Either way if Trump is racist then Biden would also have to be for not denouncing groups that commit crimes against non-African Americans
He's already done that several times. Its a control tactic that also implies he hasnt yet done so.