But if a woman (or a 55yr old man) CAN meet the exact same standards, what’s the problem?
If they can carry the weight, walk the distance, shoot as accurately, do the hand to hand combat and everything else... there’s no rational basis to exclude them.
The rational basis is they're not needed and it causes more problems than it's worth, regardless of the woman being able to carry the same weight, walk the same distance and everything else. I don't know a single example of such a woman anyway, but that's beside the point.
But it still doesn't go into the simple fact that women and men think differently. Look how much effort goes into getting men to be able to kill strangers in battle. All of that effort is tailored for MEN, and it's only somewhat effective. Add on top of that the different biologically-rooted instincts of men and women, and group coordination is basically hopeless. That's something you can see anywhere, even just an office environment.
This is why basically every single society in history has divided men and women. Especially within religious institutions or anything else that demands a lot of focus or cooperation (e.g. the military)
As a good example, there was a reality show where they took like 50 people and put them through special forces training. You had firefighters, personal trainers, triathletes and all sorts. The eventual well-deserved winner was this skinny ginger girl who was an ER Doctor. She was strong as hell, NEVER gave up, and was mentally tough and able to take a ton of stress and still function. She hit all the same standards for the men. Carried the same weight. Same pull-ups standards. Everything.
They were sleep depriving them, screaming in their faces, pouring freezing water on them, and she was unphased. Tough as hell. I’d be more than happy for someone like her to be in the military protecting me.
Women absolutely have less physical strength than men. But there are a huge number of super mentally tough women out there, and a huge number of cucked men too. I still think if they can hit the same standards, there’s no reason to exclude them.
Even if they did use the standards of an actual special forces course and those people did go through it legitimately (I doubt both), what were the consequences of failing? Did they also send them overseas on deployment for a year, away from their loved ones? Where did they sleep? How long did the entire thing last? How long were the cameras off? I could go on for ages.
A "reality" show is something produced for television and designed for you to watch. That's the polar opposite of a good example. But like I said, there are problems regardless of the woman's capability. The reason to exclude them is that there is no justifiable reason to include them.
The only thing that matters is what the military needs, not what either of us are happy with. Though idk why anyone being put in a horrific situation to protect me would be something to be happy about. I've always hated that idea just with men, much less women
Not to mention this was done as an individual, not as a team, like BUD/S evolutions. You survive and fail as a team, and the one weak link that is causing your team to fail, constantly, will cause the team to fail.
And yea, “reality tv” is entirely scripted. I call bullshit on it all. Fuckin a man, home much have we seen them get help. Remember Survivor men vs women? Those she clowns would have been DOOMED. And they were to the point where they had to bring men to the womens team. Tip of the iceberg, how many shitty movies are mad just to have a “strong woman” character because muh feminism. Girl Ghostbusters anyone???
But if a woman (or a 55yr old man) CAN meet the exact same standards, what’s the problem?
If they can carry the weight, walk the distance, shoot as accurately, do the hand to hand combat and everything else... there’s no rational basis to exclude them.
The rational basis is they're not needed and it causes more problems than it's worth, regardless of the woman being able to carry the same weight, walk the same distance and everything else. I don't know a single example of such a woman anyway, but that's beside the point.
Someone posted this further in the thread which breaks down a lot of it specific to the military https://media.thedonald.win/post/AiCWAKmn.jpeg
But it still doesn't go into the simple fact that women and men think differently. Look how much effort goes into getting men to be able to kill strangers in battle. All of that effort is tailored for MEN, and it's only somewhat effective. Add on top of that the different biologically-rooted instincts of men and women, and group coordination is basically hopeless. That's something you can see anywhere, even just an office environment.
This is why basically every single society in history has divided men and women. Especially within religious institutions or anything else that demands a lot of focus or cooperation (e.g. the military)
As a good example, there was a reality show where they took like 50 people and put them through special forces training. You had firefighters, personal trainers, triathletes and all sorts. The eventual well-deserved winner was this skinny ginger girl who was an ER Doctor. She was strong as hell, NEVER gave up, and was mentally tough and able to take a ton of stress and still function. She hit all the same standards for the men. Carried the same weight. Same pull-ups standards. Everything.
They were sleep depriving them, screaming in their faces, pouring freezing water on them, and she was unphased. Tough as hell. I’d be more than happy for someone like her to be in the military protecting me.
Women absolutely have less physical strength than men. But there are a huge number of super mentally tough women out there, and a huge number of cucked men too. I still think if they can hit the same standards, there’s no reason to exclude them.
Even if they did use the standards of an actual special forces course and those people did go through it legitimately (I doubt both), what were the consequences of failing? Did they also send them overseas on deployment for a year, away from their loved ones? Where did they sleep? How long did the entire thing last? How long were the cameras off? I could go on for ages.
A "reality" show is something produced for television and designed for you to watch. That's the polar opposite of a good example. But like I said, there are problems regardless of the woman's capability. The reason to exclude them is that there is no justifiable reason to include them.
The only thing that matters is what the military needs, not what either of us are happy with. Though idk why anyone being put in a horrific situation to protect me would be something to be happy about. I've always hated that idea just with men, much less women
Not to mention this was done as an individual, not as a team, like BUD/S evolutions. You survive and fail as a team, and the one weak link that is causing your team to fail, constantly, will cause the team to fail.
And yea, “reality tv” is entirely scripted. I call bullshit on it all. Fuckin a man, home much have we seen them get help. Remember Survivor men vs women? Those she clowns would have been DOOMED. And they were to the point where they had to bring men to the womens team. Tip of the iceberg, how many shitty movies are mad just to have a “strong woman” character because muh feminism. Girl Ghostbusters anyone???