Lol hes just trying to pour gas on the "Trump and Putin are butt buddies" narrative. Leftists tee it up for him day in and day out.
Leftists are the bull in the China shop, yet they constantly complain about how everything is broken. Hey, maybe if you'd stop freaking out all of your own problems would melt away.
But then again, if they were against self harm, they wouldn't be leftists.
To say Russians have no love of Freedom is abhorrent. Not only have many of them not had the opportunity to experience what we call Freedom, many of them consider themselves lucky to have escaped the grasps of Communism and will gladly settle for the most prosperous time in recent Russian history instead.
As an American of Russian Heritage, I generally agree. Russian population suffered from a century of brain drain as the most productive, freedom loving, and smartest people were all either killed or forced to flee.
There are still many good Russian people, like the ones who protest in the streets of Khabarovsk for the past few months against despotic rule - but they are in the minority.
Anyone connected to the Russian Government is absolute scum.
So you feel this way about Putin? And I’m sincerely asking. Putin and Russia in general are pretty interesting to me. He seems kind of like a mystery man...I hear he’s a terrible guy but then listen to his statements on issues and see how he leads. Idk it’s hard to wade through all the fake news. So I’m much more interested in hearing from someone like you rather than big media or crazy libs on reddit going on about Russian hacking smh.
Vladimir Putin is highly composed and well spoken, particularly when responding to the highly scripted questions or expected questions in an interview. People in the west don't get to see the few interviews where he gets caught off guard and appears angry or confused for lacking answers. (ex: https://youtu.be/1mVqFeFwAJQ when he spoke with the Poet/Singer Shevchuk - look at Putin's body language when calm critical commentary is made) In general though, appearances are his strong point, similar to Barack Obama.
Since we should judge people on their actions, not just words, this is where the illusion breaks:
Russia benefited from highest Oil / Gas prices in history during the Peak of Putin's rule. At the same time Putin achieved total control over most institutions and Media in the country. He has no excuses when it comes to results.
Russia builds a fraction of the roads/infrastructure built by China under similar economic conditions (despite both countries starting out at a disadvantage in transportation, and both identifying it as a requirement for economic growth).
Russia failed to diversify its economy and promote a rise in the middle class of taxpayers. It is still highly reliant on raw resource exports, a great waste of potential.
The famed Russian education system is collapsing, with cheating and fake degrees going so mainstream most officials and politicians are complicit.
Brain Drain out of Russia accelerated, with Inventors and Researchers achieving greatness in other countries, while those remaining stifled with threats of persecution by security opportunists and low rewards.
Russia promotes internal migration of culturally incompatible populations, with large numbers of illegal migrants from Asian republics taking over entry level jobs in the core cities, often acting as indentured servants.
Russia is leasing large swaths of rich land in the far-east to China, with the Chinese taking over in terms of population and economic activity. Even though the leases will expire in 50 years, the same "referendum" tactic Russia promoted elsewhere can be used by the Chinese to eventually take permanent ownership.
The corruption in the Russian government is massive, everyone is complicit, everyone is self-enriching on the backs of taxpayers. Corruption revelations are constant, yet only a few cases of mild prosecution exist despite great evidence.
For example: Mr. Chaika, the chief prosecutor of the federation, is a mob-tied murderous thief, publicly showcasing his unearned riches: https://youtu.be/3eO8ZHfV4fk
There are countless more cases available with documents in Russian - documentation of Russian officials buying real estate in the USA, England, France, Italy, at price ranges they have no way to earn in their lifetime with their salary or past business incomes.
The presidency of Vladimir Putin is much less impressive once you dig into results and compare to other countries with similar or worse opportunities.
There are great similarities in the methods of Vladimir Putin and Hillary Clinton's DNC - from the shill/troll farms to the toxic control of MSM and administrative resources in local elections. They inspire each other, and help each other in various ways (as convenient enemies, or Uranium One conspirators, etc) which explains why they are trying to project their crimes unto Trump.
I hope you don't actually buy the surface level Cold War narrative that there's some natural and eternal enmity between Russians and Americans. They're that way because of Communism and the same people are trying to do the same thing to us right now. Get some perspective.
Are you saying “OP” as in me, are trying to pour gas in the “Trump/Putin butt buddy” narrative. If that’s the case pure malarkey, come on man! As to the Breitbart article, just points out how unreasonable and insane the left is.
To be fair, biden did send a kind tweet. I'm not a fan of the guy, but I'm going to be objective and say it was a nice thing that Joe biden did for trump.
Yeah, but I am also 99.5% sure Joe Biden didn’t send it. Biden has a committee that constructs strategic tweets to make himself look good. Trump is an extremely rare national political figure in doing his own tweeting uncensored by aides.
In 2016 Trump pointedly mocked Hillary for this. Her tweets were as fake as her cackle.
Dangerous in relation to what, context matter? In relation to being someone with information that would lead to Hillary Clinton’s arrest, no, the flu is not dangerous.
Putin and Russia are seriously America's friends. If American CIA could team up with the Russian spy agencies, then China will be done. Chinese IP theft will decline, either that, or Russia and USA can steal the the improvements on technology developed by China. IF CHINA IS ALLOWED TO STEAL OUR IP, THEY WE ARE ALSO ALLOWED TO STEAL THEIR IP.
Putin is calling the virus “dangerous”, which makes him also more reasonable than most pedes here in this forum. I have no doubt that the Trumps will recover within a few weeks, but to call the virus a “hoax”, as we can read here today, is not very smart.
if i may expand a bit, it's also a hoax in that the "as bad as it's been made out to be" is being leveraged by politicians for their own agendas; namely, it was used by the left to pressure spineless governors and other officials to shut down the greatest economy the United States has ever seen (and then Biden tried to say the economic downturn was Trump's fault lmao... so predictable...), despite the fact that especially in rural areas the case load is so small as to barely be a blip. Every region is inherently different- that's why we're a republic after all, and not a direct democracy!
further, it's the unquestioning nature of the authoritarians in our government (and in the citizenry among us) that is the most alarming. So many people willingly accepted this shutdown / forced mask wearing / forced school closures / no more seeing your dying relatives, they have to die alone / etc... and yet i'm not allowed to question whether those actions are worth it? Why are we not allowed to weigh risk/benefit of these things? You've got dads missing out on the birth of their babies. Married elderly couples spending their 75th anniversaries apart because one of them is in a nursing home. Suicide rates / divorce rates / drug abuse / alcoholism skyrocketing. Where do we draw the line? I absolutely question it, as should everyone.
Yeah 94% of the people who died from it had comorbidities and the average amount of comorbidites is 2.6. Also the average age of people who've died from it is above the life expectancy in the U.S. So the large majority of people affected are old people in bad health.
Typical Democrat talking points. No one claims it is a hoax, the claim is that the reaction to it is a hoax, and that is a valid claim with evidence to support it.
I don't know you, but I suspect now that you are either a troll or retarded.
Having a family and a small business is "bragging"? Who are you, AOC? Who is so proud about spending "every day here for much longer than you"?
Fuck you, man!
People here downplay the risk of this virus from the beginning. Plenty of "stop the hoax" posts here. You know it. Guys like you are to blame that so many believe, president Trump does the same, which is absolutely false. Trump didn't downplay covid. Only a retarded section of his supporters did.
You downplay the virus and now you downplay the downplaying of the virus. You are in denial.
Pedes who posted "nothing to see here, Trump is asymptomatic" and "just another false positive" are in denial. There are no false positives for high profile people. You just repeat the test... OBVIOUSLY! Not less obvious is that VIP folks like the POTUS get tested every day. They caught the infection at the very beginning. Of course he doesn't show many symptoms on day 0.
Pray for Donald Trump's speedy recovery. These are very dark days. I pray for you too. May the Lord allow all of us seeing the truth between all this cheap and empty rhetoric and the outright lies that inundate us all.
Having a family and a small business is "bragging"?
You used the fact that you have a business and a family to say you are in fact not a loser. A lot of people with those things can be and are losers. I was just making a joke about how you used that in that way in an argument with a stranger on the internet. I don't actually care. I was just joking around.
And who is so proud about spending "every day here for much longer than you"?
That wasn't me, that was the other person replying to you. I only made the comment mentioned above.
I haven't downplayed the downplaying of the virus. If you look at my history you will see just an hour or so ago I was talking about how I had it and it was nothing to be concerned about.
Pray for Donald Trump's speedy recovery. These are very dark days. I pray for you too. May the Lord allow all of us see the truth among the cheap rhetoric and outright lies that inundate us all these days.
Lol hes just trying to pour gas on the "Trump and Putin are butt buddies" narrative. Leftists tee it up for him day in and day out.
Leftists are the bull in the China shop, yet they constantly complain about how everything is broken. Hey, maybe if you'd stop freaking out all of your own problems would melt away.
But then again, if they were against self harm, they wouldn't be leftists.
Putin and trump both are well versed in the art of the troll
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It's not trolling, it's standard protocol for a world leader to send this kind of messages. The political meaning of it is zero.
Russia is not even 1/10th the Enemy China is.
It's obvious to anybody who is paying attention.
Russia is better at trolling though.
I don't think Russia is an enemy at all.
Hilarious but true russia has fallen in times.
Only libtards have a phobia of Russia.
Tell me just one thing that Russia did against American.
Can you elaborate a bit? What "internet research agency"?
I don't care about the Reagan's era. I said Russia, not the USSR.
You're making no sense.
What propaganda, exactly? Do you think Russians spread Marxist propaganda on the internet? You think Reddit is populated by russian agents?
Dude, lay off the MSNBC. It's getting to ya.
To say Russians have no love of Freedom is abhorrent. Not only have many of them not had the opportunity to experience what we call Freedom, many of them consider themselves lucky to have escaped the grasps of Communism and will gladly settle for the most prosperous time in recent Russian history instead.
As an American of Russian Heritage, I generally agree. Russian population suffered from a century of brain drain as the most productive, freedom loving, and smartest people were all either killed or forced to flee.
There are still many good Russian people, like the ones who protest in the streets of Khabarovsk for the past few months against despotic rule - but they are in the minority.
Anyone connected to the Russian Government is absolute scum.
Khabarovsk protests: https://youtu.be/pYDAb5jSpKA
So you feel this way about Putin? And I’m sincerely asking. Putin and Russia in general are pretty interesting to me. He seems kind of like a mystery man...I hear he’s a terrible guy but then listen to his statements on issues and see how he leads. Idk it’s hard to wade through all the fake news. So I’m much more interested in hearing from someone like you rather than big media or crazy libs on reddit going on about Russian hacking smh.
Vladimir Putin is highly composed and well spoken, particularly when responding to the highly scripted questions or expected questions in an interview. People in the west don't get to see the few interviews where he gets caught off guard and appears angry or confused for lacking answers. (ex: https://youtu.be/1mVqFeFwAJQ when he spoke with the Poet/Singer Shevchuk - look at Putin's body language when calm critical commentary is made) In general though, appearances are his strong point, similar to Barack Obama.
Since we should judge people on their actions, not just words, this is where the illusion breaks:
For example: Mr. Chaika, the chief prosecutor of the federation, is a mob-tied murderous thief, publicly showcasing his unearned riches: https://youtu.be/3eO8ZHfV4fk
Here is another case explained in English: "The Untouchables" https://youtu.be/4ZB3YoAvEro
There are countless more cases available with documents in Russian - documentation of Russian officials buying real estate in the USA, England, France, Italy, at price ranges they have no way to earn in their lifetime with their salary or past business incomes.
The presidency of Vladimir Putin is much less impressive once you dig into results and compare to other countries with similar or worse opportunities.
There are great similarities in the methods of Vladimir Putin and Hillary Clinton's DNC - from the shill/troll farms to the toxic control of MSM and administrative resources in local elections. They inspire each other, and help each other in various ways (as convenient enemies, or Uranium One conspirators, etc) which explains why they are trying to project their crimes unto Trump.
Putin isn't nearly as bad as he is made out to be. The left wants nothing more than a war with Russia.
I hope you don't actually buy the surface level Cold War narrative that there's some natural and eternal enmity between Russians and Americans. They're that way because of Communism and the same people are trying to do the same thing to us right now. Get some perspective.
Yes.Russia and America coming together to defeat the globalists would be glorious.
Are you saying “OP” as in me, are trying to pour gas in the “Trump/Putin butt buddy” narrative. If that’s the case pure malarkey, come on man! As to the Breitbart article, just points out how unreasonable and insane the left is.
I mean Putin, not you.
They have a bull for the wife and fathering their sons.
Putin gave well wishes to our President before Biden did.
What a fucking timeline we're living in.
Unlike most Democrats, most Russians aren't publicly wishing death upon our President either.
Putin is trolling and watching the US tear itself apart.
And yet I trust him more then the democrats
Proof of Russian collusion. Fire up team Mulluer.
Putin knows Trump better than The U.S. Leftists too.
PROOF MUH RUSSIA! MUH RUSSIA PROOF!
As in a real telegram? I thought Russia was trying to ban the Telegram app.
Sauce: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/10/01/world-reacts-to-donald-trump-first-lady-melania-trump-coronavirus-diagnosis/
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To be fair, biden did send a kind tweet. I'm not a fan of the guy, but I'm going to be objective and say it was a nice thing that Joe biden did for trump.
Yeah, but I am also 99.5% sure Joe Biden didn’t send it. Biden has a committee that constructs strategic tweets to make himself look good. Trump is an extremely rare national political figure in doing his own tweeting uncensored by aides.
In 2016 Trump pointedly mocked Hillary for this. Her tweets were as fake as her cackle.
Putin also attached a 3.5 million dollar check to Hunter Biden to save postage. The President sent it back with a photo of himself frowning.
Russia and America need to come together as they have majority white Christian populations.
I mean... would you call the flu ‘dangerous’?
Dangerous in relation to what, context matter? In relation to being someone with information that would lead to Hillary Clinton’s arrest, no, the flu is not dangerous.
Putin and Russia are seriously America's friends. If American CIA could team up with the Russian spy agencies, then China will be done. Chinese IP theft will decline, either that, or Russia and USA can steal the the improvements on technology developed by China. IF CHINA IS ALLOWED TO STEAL OUR IP, THEY WE ARE ALSO ALLOWED TO STEAL THEIR IP.
Collusion confirmed.
DRUMPF COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA CONFIMRED
From Russia, with love
COLLUSION
Putin is calling the virus “dangerous”, which makes him also more reasonable than most pedes here in this forum. I have no doubt that the Trumps will recover within a few weeks, but to call the virus a “hoax”, as we can read here today, is not very smart.
^^^ this
if i may expand a bit, it's also a hoax in that the "as bad as it's been made out to be" is being leveraged by politicians for their own agendas; namely, it was used by the left to pressure spineless governors and other officials to shut down the greatest economy the United States has ever seen (and then Biden tried to say the economic downturn was Trump's fault lmao... so predictable...), despite the fact that especially in rural areas the case load is so small as to barely be a blip. Every region is inherently different- that's why we're a republic after all, and not a direct democracy!
further, it's the unquestioning nature of the authoritarians in our government (and in the citizenry among us) that is the most alarming. So many people willingly accepted this shutdown / forced mask wearing / forced school closures / no more seeing your dying relatives, they have to die alone / etc... and yet i'm not allowed to question whether those actions are worth it? Why are we not allowed to weigh risk/benefit of these things? You've got dads missing out on the birth of their babies. Married elderly couples spending their 75th anniversaries apart because one of them is in a nursing home. Suicide rates / divorce rates / drug abuse / alcoholism skyrocketing. Where do we draw the line? I absolutely question it, as should everyone.
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN AGAIN
It needs to end before the election.
Yeah 94% of the people who died from it had comorbidities and the average amount of comorbidites is 2.6. Also the average age of people who've died from it is above the life expectancy in the U.S. So the large majority of people affected are old people in bad health.
Kinda like a America, and Russia trade/security agreement that would pucker Chinas already puckered ass? Like that?
The virus is real. The reaction to the virus is the hoax.
Typical Democrat talking points. No one claims it is a hoax, the claim is that the reaction to it is a hoax, and that is a valid claim with evidence to support it.
You shoukd read this forum once in a while.
I’ve been here every day for a lot longer than you have.
You should get a medal!
I have a family and run my own business. I guess this makes me a loser.
You are the one who said that I should read the forum once in a while. I don know if you are a loser, but I’ll take your word for it.
You argue like a Democrat.
If you have to brag about it to strangers, yes, that makes you a loser.
I don't know you, but I suspect now that you are either a troll or retarded.
Having a family and a small business is "bragging"? Who are you, AOC? Who is so proud about spending "every day here for much longer than you"? Fuck you, man!
People here downplay the risk of this virus from the beginning. Plenty of "stop the hoax" posts here. You know it. Guys like you are to blame that so many believe, president Trump does the same, which is absolutely false. Trump didn't downplay covid. Only a retarded section of his supporters did.
You downplay the virus and now you downplay the downplaying of the virus. You are in denial.
Pedes who posted "nothing to see here, Trump is asymptomatic" and "just another false positive" are in denial. There are no false positives for high profile people. You just repeat the test... OBVIOUSLY! Not less obvious is that VIP folks like the POTUS get tested every day. They caught the infection at the very beginning. Of course he doesn't show many symptoms on day 0.
Pray for Donald Trump's speedy recovery. These are very dark days. I pray for you too. May the Lord allow all of us seeing the truth between all this cheap and empty rhetoric and the outright lies that inundate us all.
You used the fact that you have a business and a family to say you are in fact not a loser. A lot of people with those things can be and are losers. I was just making a joke about how you used that in that way in an argument with a stranger on the internet. I don't actually care. I was just joking around.
That wasn't me, that was the other person replying to you. I only made the comment mentioned above.
I haven't downplayed the downplaying of the virus. If you look at my history you will see just an hour or so ago I was talking about how I had it and it was nothing to be concerned about.
I completely agree with this statement.