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Sonofthemorning73 8 points ago +9 / -1

John 2. 2 He is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the sins of the whole world. 3 And by this we know that we have come to know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 Whoever says “I know him” but does not keep his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him, 5 but whoever keeps his word, in him truly the love of God is perfected. By this we may know that we are in him

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Sonofthemorning73 5 points ago +5 / -0

seems pretty clear to me he meant everyone.

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Sonofthemorning73 2 points ago +2 / -0

what does he mean by "our sins"?

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Sonofthemorning73 2 points ago +2 / -0

There is no elect. Jesus died for the whole world.

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SatanicSoros 8 points ago +9 / -1

Hmm I dunno

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SatanicSoros 3 points ago +3 / -0

"Jesus didn't die for every person"

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yahweh 7 points ago +8 / -1

WRONG

John 3:16

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yahweh 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well, you sealed your fate.

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GodEmporerTrump 6 points ago +7 / -1

Lol get that Calvanistic shit outta here...read your Bible and understand it

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dataonly 3 points ago +3 / -0

I could not disagree more w/ the orig post, but as you stated this is a Trump reelection board.

The OP was off topic.

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dataonly 5 points ago +5 / -0

God's grace is offered freely to every one. Its up to them to accept it.

This is what the Bible says:

https://biblehub.com/mark/16-16.htm

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Forgotmyoldpassword 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think you both agree. What ok Karen is saying is that the grace is offered to all but through gods omniscience it is known who will accept and partake of the grace being offered. If someone gives you a gift and you refuse to accept it then the giver is not at fault.

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Forgotmyoldpassword 2 points ago +2 / -0

How can that be true. All are given the gift of human life. Every moment of life is a blessing. The moment this is withdrawn the body no longer shows signs of life. The life force even in the sinner is the power of God.

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MrSnappy 5 points ago +7 / -2

nope, not even once.

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JoeandHunterBiden 4 points ago +4 / -0

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the_shootist 3 points ago +3 / -0

False:

1 Timothy 2:1-4

I desire therefore, first of all, that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all men: For kings, and for all that are in high station: that we may lead a quiet and a peaceable life in all piety and chastity. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour, who will have all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth.

God hates nothing he has created because God is Love. God also creates all men to be eternally happy with him in Heaven and predestines no one to eternal punishment. Man, however is free to reject God's salvific act and condemn himself to Hell.

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the_shootist 2 points ago +2 / -0

You're misinterpreting what the word "hate" means in both Malachi 1:2-3 and in Romans 9:13 (where it quotes this passage from Malachi)

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the_shootist 2 points ago +2 / -0

I have. You're misinterpreting the biblical text. Rejoice that God himself died for you and for everyone! :)

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sciencebeforegod 2 points ago +2 / -0

He died for the whole world. It’s literally in the Gospel.

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Mursenary 2 points ago +2 / -0

Username checks out.

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Liver_Kick 2 points ago +3 / -1

Jesus himself said this was a hard saying, and lost many followers who were unable to accept this.

Consider this - why would Christ be punished for the sins of reprobates that will also be punished for the same sins.

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inquimouse 1 point ago +1 / -0

Because it is part of the whole sin burden that has to be neutralized.

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Liver_Kick 0 points ago +1 / -1

Nope

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Liver_Kick 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lol whatever. Try verse 65

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