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I_Used_to_be_me 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thee same God as those belonging to all Abrahamic/Judaeo-Christian religions?

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I_Used_to_be_me 0 points ago +1 / -1

No offense, but it really doesn't matter what Jesus said, or any of the new testament, if you're Jewish; and that fact doesn't mean devil-worship: Christians, at this point in time, and today, were/are simply Jews who accepted that Jesus was the messiah/savior and the Son of God. Those who did not believe Jesus to be the messiah and Son of God remained Jews, still worshipping the same God, but still waiting for, what would in their eyes, be the true savior to appear -- the Old Testament, and the God it speaks of, is part of the canon of literature of both religions. I have no dog in this fight, half my family is Jewish, half my family is Christian, and I was raised as a Christian more than anything; but the one thing that was abundantly clear was that both sides of my family worshipped the same God, and the Christian side certainly didn't believe my Jewish side to be devil worshippers lol. One half just didn't believe that Jesus was the son of that same God that my other half also believe in and worship. To then say that means they're actually worshipping Satan is disingenuous, and just because you disagree and do believe Jesus to be the Son of God (as I do) does not make it acceptable to undermine those of an entire faith who put their own faith and belief in the same God as you, genuinely believe it to be the same God as you, and then you tell them their faith is wrong and they're actually worshipping Satan. Further, the rejection of Jesus as Messiah has never even been a central part of their theology -- they simply believe that the coming of the Messiah is associated w/ specific events that haven't occurred. Since, some have occurred, and if the rest play out (including a Christian prophecy), then Jews would change their stance regarding Jesus

Fact is, beliefs, among all three of these Abrahamic religions, varies greatly, and Christians not only differ in their views of Jews, but also in their views of Muslims. Many Christians believe Muslims do worship the same God as them, and many believe they are heretics. Same goes for Jews, whose beliefs regarding Christians and Muslims vary, and same goes for Muslims, whose beliefs also vary. These aren't monolithic blocks of people who all think the same, and is why there are so many sects and variations

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I_Used_to_be_me 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm at work and my lunch break just ended, so I can't respond as well as I'd like, but sure, I'll give you the secular Jews aspect. They aren't real Jews, have hardly any religious identity despite identifying as Jews, and real Jews who actually worship, and consider their "Jewishness" to be more than just an identity marker or ethnicity, but their religion, faith, and connection to God, would likely have just as many bad things to say about secular Jews as you and many others do. They tend to wholeheartedly reject communism and are very conservative, as my (Jewish side of the) family is (and is how/why they ended up here). Real Jews aren't these Frankfurt School academics and Bolsheviks you're referring to, or your Soros' who openly admit the shame he and his family felt in being Jewish, or your Sulzberger's (read up on their history, and their own views on Judaism and being Jewish; it's interesting, and disgusting) who ran (and still run) the NYT (and largely covered up and minimized the Holocaust). These Jews use their identity the same way all those of the "intersectional" crowd do; as a verbal and identity weapon to bash over the head of dissidents to earn victimhood and marginalization points -- but they are about as Jewish as Mitt Romney is a republican/conservative, and the only Jewish thing about them is the -berg, -stein, etc, in their last name