Great point! Degenerate has become a go-to in my mind as well. The left is mostly a facade pumped up by media and big tech. People go along with it in a feminine fashion to try and be trendy (source: am a millennial male). Facebook is the perfect place to see this in action. Everyone changing their banners and statuses to fit the leftist narrative. It’s pathetic.
Lol relatable. The look of confusion on a woman's face when I call something "degenerate" and their response is basically "B-but it's considered socially acceptable!"
Brilliantly put, anon. I'm a woman and I have encountered this same exact social-position shaming a lot from women. They always want to make you feel like you're an outsider and thus they enforce their stupid unspoken rules of conformity. Their go-to method of bullying another woman into submission is to treat her with contempt, disgust and like she's crazy and weird. It's awful and very provincial.
See what happened to Kimberly Klacik when she went on The View. Sunny Hostin and Joy Behar promptly tried to attack her as a weirdo, a contemptible oddity, someone unworthy of being even tolerated because she was just so low-status. The contempt they poured on her was horrible. They cast her out of their club for women.
Look at the manner in which BLM women publicly humiliate conservative blacks. It's the same thing. They keep calling them "sell-out negros". 'Sell-out' as in, conservative black men are being cast out of the social system that these leftist black women believe in and support.
Really wish this anon would show up here in this thread so we could discuss this more.
This is an absolutely brilliant point and it should be discussed at length. If the anon could come here to talk about this, that would be great. Odd that some guy on /pol has way more insight on the devious and lowdown tricks of liberal women than the vast majority of sociologists.
I would suggest that sociologists aren't allowed to express such verboten opinions, lest they risk losing tenure, status, etc. (see: leftist debate strategy). They might have similar or better insight, but you'll never hear it. Or maybe, Anon is a sociologist ;)
As for the fact that black conservatives are treated similar to how female conservatives are treated, I think the "crabs in a bucket" mentality is a huge factor. Social justice and intersectional feminism are, among other things, eternal "Get Out Of Responsibility Free" cards. Black and/or female conservatives receive such vitriol from them fellow "oppressed" peers because their mere existence destroys SJWs' go-to excuse. At this point social justice becomes unfalsifiable, since the existence of dissident thinkers proves they have internalized self-hatred and they need the Gospel of Social Justice even more.
When britain declared war on germany in 1914, a mob of germans threw rocks and yelled "race traitor" at the british embassy. Its the same attitude and mentality: people worshipping the accepted morality and beliefs (or lack thereof) and the shallowness that everything that matters is skindeep.
In my personal experience, I once batted off an accusation of "insensitivity toward abused women" (I'm a woman myself) with this:
"You realize in my initial training classes there was a battered woman that every other woman in the class was treating like crap? People in class were tattling on her like school children for doodling to concentrate. Not only was I the only one who stood up for her, I helped get her away from the abusive boyfriend?"
That shut up the accusation. Nothing shuts up a lefty like attitude.
Probably right. I try to be diplomatic, especially with the customers, but I have limits on the amount of stupidity I can handle, and I am pretty vocal about it. 🤣
Wouldn't hurt to have it in our arsenal. They would use bio weapons against us if they could some have said they would go to our rallies if they get covid just to spread it and hope the President passes away from it.
They honestly deserve to be shamed, especially for always claiming to take the moral high ground and declaring themselves "the party of tolerance" or "love".
My best defense against this tactic has been to either embrace the accusation and show how they are actually bullying me or tie in one of the things I have done that is way out of their reach in a response - like a soft-flex
The best one I did was when someone called me alt-right and I just said something along the lines of: oh no, he called me alt-right, I guess that counters the arguments I made... a big crowd pleaser
I won't take away your Freedom to choose to live as a degenerate. But I would insist you stay the fuck away from me and my family, and preferably stay in your basement like Biden so you don't fuck the rest of us up.
Great point! Degenerate has become a go-to in my mind as well. The left is mostly a facade pumped up by media and big tech. People go along with it in a feminine fashion to try and be trendy (source: am a millennial male). Facebook is the perfect place to see this in action. Everyone changing their banners and statuses to fit the leftist narrative. It’s pathetic.
Lol relatable. The look of confusion on a woman's face when I call something "degenerate" and their response is basically "B-but it's considered socially acceptable!"
I get your point, but lets not throw all women under the bus. I've seen women so based you wouldn't believe it.
I don't mean to overgeneralize. I mean to say, I've had that same conversation almost verbatim with many more women than men
fair enough
yep, had that conversation
So what you're saying is, is that women are bad?
Points for reference
Brilliantly put, anon. I'm a woman and I have encountered this same exact social-position shaming a lot from women. They always want to make you feel like you're an outsider and thus they enforce their stupid unspoken rules of conformity. Their go-to method of bullying another woman into submission is to treat her with contempt, disgust and like she's crazy and weird. It's awful and very provincial.
See what happened to Kimberly Klacik when she went on The View. Sunny Hostin and Joy Behar promptly tried to attack her as a weirdo, a contemptible oddity, someone unworthy of being even tolerated because she was just so low-status. The contempt they poured on her was horrible. They cast her out of their club for women.
Look at the manner in which BLM women publicly humiliate conservative blacks. It's the same thing. They keep calling them "sell-out negros". 'Sell-out' as in, conservative black men are being cast out of the social system that these leftist black women believe in and support.
Really wish this anon would show up here in this thread so we could discuss this more.
This is an absolutely brilliant point and it should be discussed at length. If the anon could come here to talk about this, that would be great. Odd that some guy on /pol has way more insight on the devious and lowdown tricks of liberal women than the vast majority of sociologists.
I would suggest that sociologists aren't allowed to express such verboten opinions, lest they risk losing tenure, status, etc. (see: leftist debate strategy). They might have similar or better insight, but you'll never hear it. Or maybe, Anon is a sociologist ;)
As for the fact that black conservatives are treated similar to how female conservatives are treated, I think the "crabs in a bucket" mentality is a huge factor. Social justice and intersectional feminism are, among other things, eternal "Get Out Of Responsibility Free" cards. Black and/or female conservatives receive such vitriol from them fellow "oppressed" peers because their mere existence destroys SJWs' go-to excuse. At this point social justice becomes unfalsifiable, since the existence of dissident thinkers proves they have internalized self-hatred and they need the Gospel of Social Justice even more.
When britain declared war on germany in 1914, a mob of germans threw rocks and yelled "race traitor" at the british embassy. Its the same attitude and mentality: people worshipping the accepted morality and beliefs (or lack thereof) and the shallowness that everything that matters is skindeep.
So would we be more effective if we changed tactics to what they use and socially shame them?
That depends. Do you consider their tactics effective? I'm not saying you're right or wrong btw.
Well, it has been my experience that people use the things that are most effective against themselves.
In my personal experience, I once batted off an accusation of "insensitivity toward abused women" (I'm a woman myself) with this:
"You realize in my initial training classes there was a battered woman that every other woman in the class was treating like crap? People in class were tattling on her like school children for doodling to concentrate. Not only was I the only one who stood up for her, I helped get her away from the abusive boyfriend?"
That shut up the accusation. Nothing shuts up a lefty like attitude.
Probably right. I try to be diplomatic, especially with the customers, but I have limits on the amount of stupidity I can handle, and I am pretty vocal about it. 🤣
Wouldn't hurt to have it in our arsenal. They would use bio weapons against us if they could some have said they would go to our rallies if they get covid just to spread it and hope the President passes away from it.
They honestly deserve to be shamed, especially for always claiming to take the moral high ground and declaring themselves "the party of tolerance" or "love".
and men with normal testosterone levels most often right wing
What a damn good observation.
Gives a deeper meaning to a guy telling another guy to quit acting like a little bitch.
My best defense against this tactic has been to either embrace the accusation and show how they are actually bullying me or tie in one of the things I have done that is way out of their reach in a response - like a soft-flex
The best one I did was when someone called me alt-right and I just said something along the lines of: oh no, he called me alt-right, I guess that counters the arguments I made... a big crowd pleaser
I won't take away your Freedom to choose to live as a degenerate. But I would insist you stay the fuck away from me and my family, and preferably stay in your basement like Biden so you don't fuck the rest of us up.