Does anyone really believe these WuFlu death numbers? I'm willing to wager that the actual deaths ACTUALLY caused by this flu are 1% of what "they" are citing. Yes, that low.
And don't for get the little secret that was leaked and quickly buried - Corona virus is indigenous and if you dig deep enough in any human you can find a sample.
Sorry the only source I have is my memory - but it is burned into my hippocampus.
Do you have a source for this? I have been unable to find anything that is newer than 2015, but I (as well as most people with at least 2 brain cells) have speculated that this has been the case all along. I'd love to have a dataset to show people with mild TDS. Extreme cases, as we all know, don't care about facts.
They're not "replacing" deaths. Both influenza and SARS-CoV-2 can cause pneumonia. Pneumonia is a condition that is the result of an infection and pretty much any lower respiratory infection will cause pneumonia, be it viral, bacterial, or fungal in nature. You can even develop pneumonia from inhaling non-living particles/substances (i.e. food going down the wrong tube).
Get infected with influenza/SARS-CoV-2
Viral replication process destroys lung tissue."
Fluid builds up in lungs.
Pneumonia.
Possible death.
Pretty much every flu death will have pneumonia accompanying it as the cause of death. The problem is with the way the CDC has their data and reporting set up. "Flu and pneumonia" lumps in all patients that died from flu-caused pneumonia in with all patients that died from pneumonia caused by other pathogens.
What they also aren't doing is looking at potential simultaneous infections that can cause compounding problems. Influenza doesn't invade cells through the same receptors as SARS-CoV-2, so you can theoretically be infected with both at the same time. So while someone could have no problem recovering from an infection from either, it may be far more difficult to recover from being infected with both at the same time.
All you need to know is that the US, which is only the 175th most densely populated country
We're 175th because we're the 5th largest country by area in the world.
has only 5% of the world population
5% of the world's population, but we're 3rd largest in population.
Most of our enormous population lives in our large cities and metro areas, while an immense amount of our land is sparsely populated. Just being pedantic that if you switch those two points around they become more relevant to the topic at hand.
I said from the first week of shutdowns that far more people would die globally from starvation and mental illness than from the stupid virus, especially those in third worlds and countries dependent on tourism.
Global money and global power are about control and suffering. Prosperity and peace can not come from a government that kills and steals to opperate. In a cashless society every transaction will be taxed. Taxation is theft and theft is a form of violence.
LOL, I'm an idea guy. When other people are just sitting around, not me. I'm thinking. Guy doesn't like horses? Start running through my brain of different animals that might work and still look bad ass. First idea was, of course, Komodo dragons. Did a little searching around and it turns out you can't actually buy a Komodo dragon in the United States. Same with lions. So the list was starting to get thin when I came up with the tried and true steer. We'll need to retool a saddle to fit but that's a minor detail. Heeyah!
I've never been to the Ganges so I can't add much to that I'm afraid. But as far as I know, only ashes are thrown into the Ganges as we burn our dead. The river is definitely dirty though, not just the aforementioned ashes but also from factories that dump chemical waste into it illegally. They don't get prosecuted due to 4.
No that's different. There's no systematic poor treatment of people with dark skin, but I'd say it's like being pale in the Western countries. As in if you are tanned, you have a job that allows you to have the free time to lay about in the sun. In India, if you are pale, you work in an office away from the sun and thus have a high paying job.
How did you get into the "dravidian" and all that bullshit? What kind of marxist shit have you been reading? You sound like the kind of person who also reads the "1619 project" and the "critical race theory" and take it to be the word of God, your bible? Is it?
Like marxists write 1619 and critical race theory and all the bullshit in america, they have been doing in India since much earlier times. The dravidian aryan shit is all bullshit that comes from that. You ought to have known better. You see that happening in America right now, don't you?
It is not a standard practice to throw the dead in the river. Dead bodies do end up in the river but it is not a standard practice as you are making it to be. It is not a standard practice to dump toxic chemicals in drinking water sources, in US or in India, but they do end up there in some cases.
Pretty sure that whatever IQ test you are referring to, is not normalized to take people from the same economic background. For sure if you include starving poor into "average" for IQ while US has none, the actual score would drop down. Statistics are very specific about what they are saying, people just interpret however they want to interpret it.
The hierarchial caste system is kinda like the racial segregation system in US ... illegal and going away with time. India is decades behind the US in terms of education, standard of living, etc. etc. and this is not an exception. As a thumb rule, you can assume that India has as much of "hierarchial caste" system as US had a few decades ago.
The elites, anywhere in the world are doing what they can. US is no exception to that. India is no exception to that.
That being said ... there is no reason why you have such a poor opinion of India. The post itself is not derogatory to America or to Trump. You just found yourself an opportunity to say tangential, unrelated shit and you took that opportunity. Didn't you?
We have a lot higher % of older people, and the older people who live in India that could have been killed by a single illness are probably already gone with all the trash, sewage, and biological contaminants affecting their water supply.
But still, as you aid, the numbers are almost certainly wrong. US numbers are inflated by false positives, counting "looks like the symptoms of COVID" as coronovirus deaths, and counting any death where coronovirus was present as a coronovirus death. Meanwhile I can't imagine a relatively impoverished country like India is doing much testing compared to countries like the US, so if an elderly person gets sick and dies, I wouldn't be surprised if it's often not counted - since you know, that's what tends to happen to elderly people.
India has median age at 26 years, with average life expectancy itself lower than the coronavirus high risk range ... think of it this way, in India, an average person does not live to be 75 years old, when the chingchong virus actually becomes deadly, hence there is not that many people left to get seriously ill with it. Afghanistan for example, probably has average life expectancy at 50 years. How many people do you think will there be to catch the virus and get seriously ill, knowing that for 50 years age, chingchong virus has 99.9999% survival?
Don't go by hard numbers. Math numbers are very specific at what they are saying. People frequently make mistake in interpreting it.
China is fucked. The floods this year and their response to them has destroyed something like 70% of this year’s harvest. Probably means food prices are going to shoot through the roof for most of the region, because you know those fuckers will be buying out everything they can from other countries.
I have also heard that because of corruption that their grain stores are worthless, and are expected to get boned super hard. A reason they started banning mukbang videos and restricting that amount of food you can order from restaurants.
You can do a search of that link along with the keywords to find what you're looking for. In other words, do a Google search for the following (unfortunately, this won't work with DuckDuckGo)-
actually I already looked up the twitter handle. I ask for source because I want to see the specific piece of information/tweet/etc. OP is referring to.
that said, a random dude on twitter with 1000 followers is not what I consider sufficient source material.
not that I doubt the claim. I'd say I agree with most of the content posted. just not very actionable content.
My company is working with a local company to develop a new production management system. We're in a niche industry so off-the-shelf software doesn't fit our needs. The company that we're working with hired developers in Bangladesh. One of the Bangladeshi leads just died from Covid. The local company got shutdown during the 15-infinity days to slow the spread. It has put us a good 6-8 months behind schedule.
In the meantime, our current, aging system got hit with ransomware a few months ago. Luckily, we were able to rebuild from backups and recovered files, but now we have to invest in new PCs, network gear, and added security. .... The forensic analysis revealed the attack originated from Iran.
It's easy to forget how easy we have it in the United States. We're blessed to live in the greatest country in the world. There are those that are not so lucky, and the Covidiots seems to have forgotten about them.
They're already trying it and Guatemala is turning the caravans away.
Trump informed the Mexican government he would increase tariffs if they did not protect the US-Mexico border so they in turn put pressure on Guatemala to take care of business.
The Guatemalans are putting the Hondurans on buses and sending them back under pressure from Mexico.
At some point, anyone with two brain cells to rub together looks at the numbers and will make the observation that A (starvation, loss of transport, jobs, infrastructure etc) causes more deaths than B (Covid). Address problem A as a priority.
In conclusion, Dems are a little too dim. They don't have 2 brain cells
and now they will go to war with their Chinese neighbors, while the deep state defense industrial complex gets rich. Funny how this is working out isn't it?
Help me, I can't feed myself. So I had 12 children that I also can't feed. I know you have been sending trillions In aid money for literally decades, and we have more billionaires than most other countries, and we have a motherfucking space program. But please, PLEASE send more money. This time it will help. Honest.
Mass starvation, mass unemployment, misery, depression, suicide... all these things are just fine to the deranged leftist, as long as it’s not from the CCP virus.
The ice.age.farmer has a good pod cast that talks about the destruction of the food supply and how it ties into UN agenda 21. Stock up now. Food prices may be quite high this winter.
India, like most countries, has a massive amount of subsistence level peasants. Its important we dont take all of their skilled labor....they are needed there. Plus it keeps the h1bs down. Win for all!
I don't think the statement is true. Only western civilizations were shut down. That's your clue about the seriousness of the virus. It's about equity not health.
I said from the first week of shutdowns that far more people would die globally from starvation and mental illness than from the stupid virus, especially those in third worlds and countries dependent on tourism.
Plus, they clubbed the fuck outa Chinese soldiers at 19,000 feet, engaging in hand to hand combat and fucking their shit up royally, so Godspeed India indeed!
I cant find the hard data or specific numbers. Either journalism is dead, Inda doesnt have (or want to realease) the data or OP is wrong... but here are some articles glazing over the subject.
Does anyone really believe these WuFlu death numbers? I'm willing to wager that the actual deaths ACTUALLY caused by this flu are 1% of what "they" are citing. Yes, that low.
We're way beyond "pretty sure"
One step further, you don't even have to be fucking carrying the disease - only speculation is needed to "confirm" a wuflu death.
And don't for get the little secret that was leaked and quickly buried - Corona virus is indigenous and if you dig deep enough in any human you can find a sample.
Sorry the only source I have is my memory - but it is burned into my hippocampus.
Indelibly.
SARS-CoV-2 isn't indigenous to humans, but related species are.
Do you have a source for this? I have been unable to find anything that is newer than 2015, but I (as well as most people with at least 2 brain cells) have speculated that this has been the case all along. I'd love to have a dataset to show people with mild TDS. Extreme cases, as we all know, don't care about facts.
Check out this graph of monthly deaths per million people in Sweden, 1851-2020
nice graph
They're not "replacing" deaths. Both influenza and SARS-CoV-2 can cause pneumonia. Pneumonia is a condition that is the result of an infection and pretty much any lower respiratory infection will cause pneumonia, be it viral, bacterial, or fungal in nature. You can even develop pneumonia from inhaling non-living particles/substances (i.e. food going down the wrong tube).
Get infected with influenza/SARS-CoV-2
Viral replication process destroys lung tissue."
Fluid builds up in lungs.
Pneumonia.
Possible death.
Pretty much every flu death will have pneumonia accompanying it as the cause of death. The problem is with the way the CDC has their data and reporting set up. "Flu and pneumonia" lumps in all patients that died from flu-caused pneumonia in with all patients that died from pneumonia caused by other pathogens.
What they also aren't doing is looking at potential simultaneous infections that can cause compounding problems. Influenza doesn't invade cells through the same receptors as SARS-CoV-2, so you can theoretically be infected with both at the same time. So while someone could have no problem recovering from an infection from either, it may be far more difficult to recover from being infected with both at the same time.
We're 175th because we're the 5th largest country by area in the world.
5% of the world's population, but we're 3rd largest in population.
Most of our enormous population lives in our large cities and metro areas, while an immense amount of our land is sparsely populated. Just being pedantic that if you switch those two points around they become more relevant to the topic at hand.
I said from the first week of shutdowns that far more people would die globally from starvation and mental illness than from the stupid virus, especially those in third worlds and countries dependent on tourism.
The year 2020 has proven that the globalists and international organizations are not yet ready to handle global money and global power.
Global money and global power are about control and suffering. Prosperity and peace can not come from a government that kills and steals to opperate. In a cashless society every transaction will be taxed. Taxation is theft and theft is a form of violence.
No one group in all of human exsistance can handle global money or global power.
Centralized power is a terrible idea.
That's what our republic of states is an excellent one.
In other words: this virus is working as intended by its designers.
We need a new Nuremberg style day of reckoning.
I'm saddled up and ready to ride!
No problem, gotcha covered fam!
LOL, I'm an idea guy. When other people are just sitting around, not me. I'm thinking. Guy doesn't like horses? Start running through my brain of different animals that might work and still look bad ass. First idea was, of course, Komodo dragons. Did a little searching around and it turns out you can't actually buy a Komodo dragon in the United States. Same with lions. So the list was starting to get thin when I came up with the tried and true steer. We'll need to retool a saddle to fit but that's a minor detail. Heeyah!
We need a Doc Holiday going ham on the Democrat thugs.
This is a country that drinks from the same river wherein they discard their dead.
In spite of your favorite help desk number ("Rajiv is just like me!", the average IQ is about 80.
They still have a hierarchical caste system, don't let anyone tell you that just magically "went away" because it is now illegal.
The people at the top are allowed free reign and are rarely punished. Their kids, too.
So I am not too concerned about these numbers. They are fake numbers.
1 & 2 I don't know
There is a caste system as in lower castes have 'reservations' in government jobs, colleges etc (equality of outcome).
True
They might be wrong, not through manipulation but due to the lack of resources. India is a big country.
1 refers top the sacred River Ganges.
Lots of photos of dudes brushing their teeth in that river or bathing next to floating cadavers.
3 just refers to the poor treatment the darker groups receive. Dravidians, maybe?
I've never been to the Ganges so I can't add much to that I'm afraid. But as far as I know, only ashes are thrown into the Ganges as we burn our dead. The river is definitely dirty though, not just the aforementioned ashes but also from factories that dump chemical waste into it illegally. They don't get prosecuted due to 4.
No that's different. There's no systematic poor treatment of people with dark skin, but I'd say it's like being pale in the Western countries. As in if you are tanned, you have a job that allows you to have the free time to lay about in the sun. In India, if you are pale, you work in an office away from the sun and thus have a high paying job.
How did you get into the "dravidian" and all that bullshit? What kind of marxist shit have you been reading? You sound like the kind of person who also reads the "1619 project" and the "critical race theory" and take it to be the word of God, your bible? Is it?
Like marxists write 1619 and critical race theory and all the bullshit in america, they have been doing in India since much earlier times. The dravidian aryan shit is all bullshit that comes from that. You ought to have known better. You see that happening in America right now, don't you?
It is not a standard practice to throw the dead in the river. Dead bodies do end up in the river but it is not a standard practice as you are making it to be. It is not a standard practice to dump toxic chemicals in drinking water sources, in US or in India, but they do end up there in some cases.
Pretty sure that whatever IQ test you are referring to, is not normalized to take people from the same economic background. For sure if you include starving poor into "average" for IQ while US has none, the actual score would drop down. Statistics are very specific about what they are saying, people just interpret however they want to interpret it.
The hierarchial caste system is kinda like the racial segregation system in US ... illegal and going away with time. India is decades behind the US in terms of education, standard of living, etc. etc. and this is not an exception. As a thumb rule, you can assume that India has as much of "hierarchial caste" system as US had a few decades ago.
The elites, anywhere in the world are doing what they can. US is no exception to that. India is no exception to that.
That being said ... there is no reason why you have such a poor opinion of India. The post itself is not derogatory to America or to Trump. You just found yourself an opportunity to say tangential, unrelated shit and you took that opportunity. Didn't you?
Two things can't be true at the same time. Is deaths are 200k and India's are 100k.
If deaths in the US are 200k then India's have to be in the million range.
If deaths in India are 100k, then the US death number has to be 10-15 k at most.
Strangely, while both can't be true, both COULD be false. The US could be around 10-15 k, AND India could be in the millions.
We have a lot higher % of older people, and the older people who live in India that could have been killed by a single illness are probably already gone with all the trash, sewage, and biological contaminants affecting their water supply.
But still, as you aid, the numbers are almost certainly wrong. US numbers are inflated by false positives, counting "looks like the symptoms of COVID" as coronovirus deaths, and counting any death where coronovirus was present as a coronovirus death. Meanwhile I can't imagine a relatively impoverished country like India is doing much testing compared to countries like the US, so if an elderly person gets sick and dies, I wouldn't be surprised if it's often not counted - since you know, that's what tends to happen to elderly people.
India has median age at 26 years, with average life expectancy itself lower than the coronavirus high risk range ... think of it this way, in India, an average person does not live to be 75 years old, when the chingchong virus actually becomes deadly, hence there is not that many people left to get seriously ill with it. Afghanistan for example, probably has average life expectancy at 50 years. How many people do you think will there be to catch the virus and get seriously ill, knowing that for 50 years age, chingchong virus has 99.9999% survival?
Don't go by hard numbers. Math numbers are very specific at what they are saying. People frequently make mistake in interpreting it.
China is fucked. The floods this year and their response to them has destroyed something like 70% of this year’s harvest. Probably means food prices are going to shoot through the roof for most of the region, because you know those fuckers will be buying out everything they can from other countries.
I have also heard that because of corruption that their grain stores are worthless, and are expected to get boned super hard. A reason they started banning mukbang videos and restricting that amount of food you can order from restaurants.
The @ethicalskeptic on twitter has been tracking famine related lockdown deaths. The results are...not good
Source?
OP gave you the source which is @ethicalskeptic on Twitter.
Here's the direct link-
https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic
You can do a search of that link along with the keywords to find what you're looking for. In other words, do a Google search for the following (unfortunately, this won't work with DuckDuckGo)-
site:https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic famine ( https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Ahttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FEthicalSkeptic%20famine )
Here was the top result-
https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1253375401902120960
Second result-
https://twitter.com/EthicalSkeptic/status/1271632916376956929
Up to you to run with this and do the rest of the legwork.
hey deeewd. thanks!
actually I already looked up the twitter handle. I ask for source because I want to see the specific piece of information/tweet/etc. OP is referring to.
that said, a random dude on twitter with 1000 followers is not what I consider sufficient source material.
not that I doubt the claim. I'd say I agree with most of the content posted. just not very actionable content.
I think the Twitter dude posts links to articles on some of his Tweets but I can't be bothered to look through all of them!
Check him on Twitter he sources all his data
Please remember to keep our Indian bros in your prayers tonight.
My company is working with a local company to develop a new production management system. We're in a niche industry so off-the-shelf software doesn't fit our needs. The company that we're working with hired developers in Bangladesh. One of the Bangladeshi leads just died from Covid. The local company got shutdown during the 15-infinity days to slow the spread. It has put us a good 6-8 months behind schedule.
In the meantime, our current, aging system got hit with ransomware a few months ago. Luckily, we were able to rebuild from backups and recovered files, but now we have to invest in new PCs, network gear, and added security. .... The forensic analysis revealed the attack originated from Iran.
Gonna need a source on this please
Sauce? I believe you but would like to read it
It's easy to forget how easy we have it in the United States. We're blessed to live in the greatest country in the world. There are those that are not so lucky, and the Covidiots seems to have forgotten about them.
Imagine the refugee caravans they will foist upon the West when he wins again
They're already trying it and Guatemala is turning the caravans away.
Trump informed the Mexican government he would increase tariffs if they did not protect the US-Mexico border so they in turn put pressure on Guatemala to take care of business.
The Guatemalans are putting the Hondurans on buses and sending them back under pressure from Mexico.
https://nypost.com/2020/10/03/honduran-caravan-aims-for-us-border-mexico-suggests-election-link/
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-10-02/another-migrant-caravan-is-headed-toward-the-united-states
There's 1.3 billion people in India.....
At some point, anyone with two brain cells to rub together looks at the numbers and will make the observation that A (starvation, loss of transport, jobs, infrastructure etc) causes more deaths than B (Covid). Address problem A as a priority.
In conclusion, Dems are a little too dim. They don't have 2 brain cells
and now they will go to war with their Chinese neighbors, while the deep state defense industrial complex gets rich. Funny how this is working out isn't it?
Help me, I can't feed myself. So I had 12 children that I also can't feed. I know you have been sending trillions In aid money for literally decades, and we have more billionaires than most other countries, and we have a motherfucking space program. But please, PLEASE send more money. This time it will help. Honest.
There is a lot of power in having 10 million starve, they’ll all need a government handout and will bend to any demand they make of the people.
If you don’t think this is what is going on with Democrat mayors, you’re not paying attention.
100k deaths out of a population of 1.4 billion is about 7 out of 100,000. More likely to die in a car accident.
They use Hydroxychloroquine prophylactically and without restrictions. Their death rate is also about 9 times lower than US, South America and Europe.
Mass starvation, mass unemployment, misery, depression, suicide... all these things are just fine to the deranged leftist, as long as it’s not from the CCP virus.
Do you have a source for this? I’ve heard it in multiple places. But my husband doesn’t believe me when I tell him famine is coming.
FACT: The LEFT is honestly trying to kill masses off.
Why on Earth has the noise about Population gone? It just dropped.
I think that they have other plans for our planet Folks.
The ice.age.farmer has a good pod cast that talks about the destruction of the food supply and how it ties into UN agenda 21. Stock up now. Food prices may be quite high this winter.
100 is a lot more than 10.
Note: I don’t know what “K” or “million” mean because I’m a brain dead hack.
I’ve seen a lot of politicians get tripped up on numbers like this. Millions, billions, trillions, whatever.
India, like most countries, has a massive amount of subsistence level peasants. Its important we dont take all of their skilled labor....they are needed there. Plus it keeps the h1bs down. Win for all!
What’s crazy is 100k people dead in India is like 100 people here. According to population :P
I don't think the statement is true. Only western civilizations were shut down. That's your clue about the seriousness of the virus. It's about equity not health.
According to the un its >130 million globally.
As we have been saying for five months, this terrible deadly virus is just the fucking flu.
Sounds like a great opportunity for a trade deal with India for American farmers!!!
I said from the first week of shutdowns that far more people would die globally from starvation and mental illness than from the stupid virus, especially those in third worlds and countries dependent on tourism.
Gee I wonder how many of those 100k dead were from malnutrition.
It's almost like what the US went through at the beginning of the 20th century and solved with basic nutrition, hygiene, and refrigeration.
Bill Gates: 😌
"Well at least the Brits are gone. We were starving under their rule..."
China and the Democrats need to have some explaining to do. The coof was political, change my mind.
So .007% of their population?
India is a corrupt place. Everything runs on bribes and money. The numbers are made up.
100k out of 1.5 billion is statistically insignificant.
They can't come here, that's all that matters.
There isn't a fucking covid. Just stop.
You're sauce is a photo. This is the donald not reddit. Gtfo.
He’s just commenting and adding a pic to make it a photo post, which is more clickable — indeed you clicked.
I’ve been to India. 3x America’s population in a third of the space = 9x population density.
In a country where the average monthly income is measured in the hundreds of dollars.
In non-Covid times the average experience of poverty there is something no American experiences unless they’re mentally ill and homeless.
India is on track to surpass the US in COVID cases. They’re the world’s largest democracy, and they need to be a key ally in fucking China.
So Godspeed India. Godspeed.
Plus, they clubbed the fuck outa Chinese soldiers at 19,000 feet, engaging in hand to hand combat and fucking their shit up royally, so Godspeed India indeed!
Yes. Source?
I would also like a source. This is great content for political discussions but without a source it can’t be used.
I cant find the hard data or specific numbers. Either journalism is dead, Inda doesnt have (or want to realease) the data or OP is wrong... but here are some articles glazing over the subject.
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2020/04/22/so-130-million-people-could-starve-because-of-the-lockdowns-n2567446
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/they-are-starving-us-millions-in-india-facing-hunger-during-lockdown/ar-BB13ctbU
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_lockdown_in_India