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leg_hairs 8 points ago +8 / -0

Do you have a source on baseline deaths? Interesting way to look at it. Could be rapid-release red pill. Nobody extra died they just started calling it something else.

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JackOfDiamonds 9 points ago +9 / -0

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

Looks like weekly deaths did tick a bit back up above baseline again in July and August, but have once again settled back to normal levels. If you play around with some of the variables, you can see that quite a few of the excess deaths were from Alzheimers, which has fuck all to do with COVID, and suggests that the lockdowns are actually what is causing some of the excess mortality, as people with dimentia are much more likely to die when relatives and friends aren't checking in on them. Frustratingly, I can't seem to find data for suicides or drug ODs in 2020. I'd be willing to bet that another chunk of excess death is due to those factors, which have been exacerbated by loneliness and isolation.

There is a virus going around. That's not a hoax. But it's nowhere near as deadly as was portrayed, and the lockdown has without a doubt killed more people than it has saved.

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Demonspawn 2 points ago +2 / -0

you can see that quite a few of the excess deaths were from Alzheimers, which has fuck all to do with COVID

I have a friend who works with the Veterinarians who are doing animal testing related to C19. Apparently, the gene for Alzheimer's is actually highly correlative to severe symptoms from Covid. Also, blood types are related to intensity of symptoms (O is weakest symptoms, A is strongest, B and AB are between).

Just a FYI for you because I found it interesting.

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DonJr2032 4 points ago +4 / -0

I think he's saying that they don't count colds like they do the Wuhan virus, even though it's an elderly killer. Colds often lead to pneumonia or other complications that end up killing untold numbers of elderly, yet they don't lump all the deaths into a "cold" category and brand it as a deadly pandemic worthy of shutting down entire industries.

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Nomoralcompass89 2 points ago +3 / -1

You can very easily look up rhinovirus and influenza deaths on Wikipedia. It has averages for yearly deaths. Add in the Norovirus too if you want.

The CDC did not report any influenza deaths this year in March and April, everything was covid. They may have changed the statistics by now, but it looked very peculiar when i was looking into it in May.

Just about every person that died this year while having sniffles and wet farts was a Covid death, meanwhile Noro, Rhino, and Influenza was successfully eradicated.

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Juanye 2 points ago +2 / -0

My wife works in a hospital lab (biggest in the state) and they straight up stopped running flu and RSV tests in mid march

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Italians_Invented_2A -2 points ago +2 / -4

No, extra people did die.

You can legitimately claim that the pandemic killed, in the US, 273k people.

This number is higher than the official chinavirus deaths because many people died for indirect reasons, like lockdown increasing suicides or lack of healthcare for other illnesses.

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Continue 4 points ago +4 / -0

Many of the excess deaths may have been from people who were going to die within the next year or two anyway, simply accelerated. We'll have to see if it actually falls below baseline later on, but we might not have that data for another 6 months or so.

But as you said, there are also a lot of deaths associated not just with the virus but the lockdown itself, and it will be tough to ever know the exact number of those. We'll probably see quite a few more cancer deaths in the future because we put all preventative care on hold for a few months because apparently we're idiots.