I don't understand why god would make it that way since god is all knowing and therefore would have to know the future. In which case it's impossible or absurd for God to regret something since he would know it was going to happen.
Also the act of killing millions of infants and unborn babies in a flood seems monstrous.
So no I don't understand why anything would want to do that. I don't condone genocide or baby killing.
Imagine your child saying to you "I don't understand why you and mom/dad chose to create me, knowing how much evil is in the world". Then imagine saying that to the creator of EVERYTHING. The Bible shares one fundamental principle with conservatives: that of the basic understanding that entails "free will" and the responsibility that goes with it.
*Not that questioning GOD is wrong, as long as you actually go to GODs Word to seek your answer.
That's just circular logic. The bible proves god and god proves the bible.
If we are to believe the Bible as true then god has committed genocide. Even if that god is real it's not worth worshiping. I see no reason that can justify genocide.
The creator can use any means necessary to bring you from this life to the next. Nature itself screams of Gods existence. How would you like God to reveal himself? What about if that doesn't line up with how the next person wants him to do that? At what point do we just accept that our demands on God are the epitome of selfishness.
God is having someone write this all down. It's to make a point. He's teaching a lesson here. It's like when God tells Jonah "I am going to destroy Nineveh! Go and tell them to Repent!" Jonah runs away, Fish dispatched to bring him back on track, Vomited up on the shores of Nineveh, Goes to the city, tells them what God told him, the ENTIRE CITY REPENTS, God does not destroy the city. Did God change his mind? No. Jonah himself confirms this, when he has a pissy baby fit and yells at God saying "I KNEW you'd do this! I didn't WANT you to have Mercy on my enemies! That's why I ran away!!!" To which God replies, basically, "And who exactly in the fuck are YOU to tell me what I should do, Jonah? I've got MY plan, and it's going to happen according to MY will." God could have started this all by saying "Jonah, I am NOT going to destroy Nineveh, because you are going to go there and tell them to repent!" But you generally don't tell people what's going to come about according to their own actions, especially when you are trying to teach the lesson that people deserve destruction, but you are a Merciful God, just LOOKING for an excuse to forgive people.
You're thinking from Man's perspective. "Alive" and "Dead" are merely matters of location to an eternal being with power over both of those categories. "Alive" means on the Rocky Dirt Ball. "Dead" means here, with Me, I'm God! The Wages of Sin is Death, as the Bible says elsewhere. Death being Eternal Death; Damnation, Eternal Separation from God, the Source of All Life. Then, God takes all of these infants and unborn babies and takes them to Himself before they have opportunity to sin. In a very real way, so long as you're not constrained by Meat Logic, that's far more merciful than allowing them to live their lives in an age where humanity is so bad that everyone's gonna get Flooded to death, followed by Eternal Damnation.
How do you justify hell then? Eternal torture for a finite crime. That isn't justice. God could have made the world without evil but chose to create evil. God is the creator of evil according to the bible.
False. God created FREEDOM. Creatures, Beings, not Automatons. The original state was one where the Physical Universe was totally 100% Compatible with God, existing in a state of perfection. By Man's actions, we rebelled against God and lost that perfection. This is where Linear Time, a symptom of matter, becomes a benefit. Were we non linear beings, like God and the Angels, we'd be set in that state of rebellion constantly and permanently. Instead, via time, we can be brought to redemption. But that's a tangent. The important thing is that when our Physical Lives end, we can no longer exist in a physical universe. But being created to be Eternal, we do not wink out of existence. Instead, we are left with two possibilities. Either eternal existence with God, or eternal existence WITHOUT God. That is the "Second Death." An eternal existence but without life.
God's damnation is not an infinite punishment of a finite crime, it's an infinite consequence of going forth into our inherent infinity, but being unable to exist in that state of perfection and life that is inherent to God. This is why it's described as Christ saying "Depart from me, I never knew you." It's not "I've seen all the wicked shit you've done, and I'm super mad." It's that we're unrecognizable to our potential Savior, in whose image we were created, and who took OUR image in order to save us, because of our own rebellion, how we've twisted and ruined ourselves, and we can't go with him, and have to go... elsewhere. Outer Darkness.
Eh, that credit still goes to Jesus. When He tells you "COME OUT," you don't whine about how you're dead and rotting from three days ago, you get the hell up and come out.
God is a jealous God. It worries me to see the amount of adoration that should only be placed on Jesus. It's not a guarantee that God will save our nation, just our individual souls.
Christ was compassionate, but he was not polite. Christ was under tremendous scrutiny, including political! And he never bent the knee to anyone but the Father. He came to save ALL the people, and the leaders hated him for it. They killed him.
All glory to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit!
Trump was sent here by God to save the United States of America, in our darkest hour... the time when Socialism bubbled up and took control of our media and our most powerful companies and institutions, threatening our freedoms and way of life.
Trump was sent here by God to save the United States of America, in our darkest hour... the time when Satanism bubbled up and took control of our media and our most powerful companies and institutions, threatening our freedoms and way of life in the final lead up to the rise of the abomination of desolation.
I get your point, but Leftists do not believe in God, they are mostly Atheist.
Calling them Satanists makes them reply : "Meh. Who cares, you stupid Christians. We worship science, the altered reality of our shared tech centric society, we serve our own pleasures, in deference to your God. We are the chosen people to bring down your nation and rebuild it in our own image."
We need to continue to pound the point that they are for all intents and purposes Godless Socialists, intent on creating a Soviet Union 2.0, here in North America.
There are plenty of people in the west completely aware of what it means if it were to ever come to pass.
The entire planet would be plunged into darkness and misery, where religious people would be hunted down and imprisoned.
A lot of leftists wear satan symbols on their clothing. I don't think you can separate them into distinct camps. But you're right about sticking to the socialist point. A lot of people tune out when satan is mentioned.
Thanks for the reply and your point of view. It is refreshing that here we can have a discussion and work together toward a solution that considers every option/person.
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Not through works
Not through singing praise songs
Not because your race
Not because your gender
Only because of Him
This isn't make believe people, it's real, better to try Jesus today than risk it tomorrow
Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
Should Trump manage to vanquish his deepstate enemies (he will) and begin a new age of enlightenment where we are back in power, can you guys please, PLEASE leave the music alone this time. I don't want to see a rebirth of TV evangelism and satanic scare shit like there was in the 80s. Yea, I get it. It's scary and violent and all that. But that's ok. Sometimes we just get really, really mad. Hate is ok sometimes. Moderation in all things. Proselytizing included.
Yep. Conservatives often look to the 80s as peak republican era but don't realize it was their downfall. The puritanical scare tactics were as crazy as the left is today and enabled the media to paint the left as the cool kids fighting against the establishment. Growing up in the 80 and 90s I experienced this first hand and know it played a big part in turning so many of my generation to the left.
The old saying about strong men creating good times, etc. is a good illustration of one of our fallibles...that is we always strive for a goal, but tend to overshoot the mark and end up in this endless cycle. It's human nature. Every generation wants to reinvent the wheel and leave their mark on the world. Humans have a true gift at messing up a good thing. My beef isn't specific to Christians.
And my previous screed wasn't directed specifically to axrevolutionai, just in general. I didn't mean to sound like I was going after you.
It was the corruption of the Primarchs by Chaos which lead to the Horus Heresey which in turn led to the kind of conflict you describe, rather than the God Emperor himself. Argument could be made based upon how he slaughtered the lightning warriors during the unification wars on Earth that his aggressive hold back for nothing efforts lead to such things in the long run, but alas we are about to go deep into 40k lore.
Its not nearly so cut and dry, which is why that lore is awesome. Moral ambiguity at its foundation.
40K lore is some of the best there is.
But they were already out there slaughtering xenos scum before the heresy. I love the fight against the tyranids in one of the first of the series. Reminded me of the raptors in the field scene in jurassic park 2 lol.
Well, 1/2 of me questions whether this is really proper to represent or not , and the other 1/2 of me smiled and really enjoyed the cleverness and the poke in the eye to the left. I guess I'm still going to hell.../S
Hahahahahahahah! Good one! That should anger the libtards for a while since Time magazine called Obama "The One" and "America's Messiah" and all that BS. Hahahahahhahaha
No way man, I had no idea he wasnt christ!
CNN- Christ confirmed.
CNN-FACT CHECK: Actually Trump is not Christ, it is just another far right conspiracy theory of white supremacists.
BEHOLD!
The Prophecies: https://thedonald.win/p/HYLXWBJ3/reeeeeeeee-mah-lord-/c/
LOL
I'm a stupid Muslim who eats his own poop.
Now now Barry.
Cleaning big Mike’s tip isn’t hardly the same as eating it outright.
But Gandalf IS a Christ-Character.
Genesis 6:6-7
God said,
I'm going to kill every living thing I have created, for I regret that I made them.
Completely within his purview
And yet he still sought to save us.
He wasn't wrong and that generation did die off.
Look around at the shit people do today, TODAY, and tell me that you don't understand that sentiment.
I don't understand why god would make it that way since god is all knowing and therefore would have to know the future. In which case it's impossible or absurd for God to regret something since he would know it was going to happen.
Also the act of killing millions of infants and unborn babies in a flood seems monstrous.
So no I don't understand why anything would want to do that. I don't condone genocide or baby killing.
Imagine your child saying to you "I don't understand why you and mom/dad chose to create me, knowing how much evil is in the world". Then imagine saying that to the creator of EVERYTHING. The Bible shares one fundamental principle with conservatives: that of the basic understanding that entails "free will" and the responsibility that goes with it.
*Not that questioning GOD is wrong, as long as you actually go to GODs Word to seek your answer.
That's just circular logic. The bible proves god and god proves the bible.
If we are to believe the Bible as true then god has committed genocide. Even if that god is real it's not worth worshiping. I see no reason that can justify genocide.
The creator can use any means necessary to bring you from this life to the next. Nature itself screams of Gods existence. How would you like God to reveal himself? What about if that doesn't line up with how the next person wants him to do that? At what point do we just accept that our demands on God are the epitome of selfishness.
God is having someone write this all down. It's to make a point. He's teaching a lesson here. It's like when God tells Jonah "I am going to destroy Nineveh! Go and tell them to Repent!" Jonah runs away, Fish dispatched to bring him back on track, Vomited up on the shores of Nineveh, Goes to the city, tells them what God told him, the ENTIRE CITY REPENTS, God does not destroy the city. Did God change his mind? No. Jonah himself confirms this, when he has a pissy baby fit and yells at God saying "I KNEW you'd do this! I didn't WANT you to have Mercy on my enemies! That's why I ran away!!!" To which God replies, basically, "And who exactly in the fuck are YOU to tell me what I should do, Jonah? I've got MY plan, and it's going to happen according to MY will." God could have started this all by saying "Jonah, I am NOT going to destroy Nineveh, because you are going to go there and tell them to repent!" But you generally don't tell people what's going to come about according to their own actions, especially when you are trying to teach the lesson that people deserve destruction, but you are a Merciful God, just LOOKING for an excuse to forgive people.
You're thinking from Man's perspective. "Alive" and "Dead" are merely matters of location to an eternal being with power over both of those categories. "Alive" means on the Rocky Dirt Ball. "Dead" means here, with Me, I'm God! The Wages of Sin is Death, as the Bible says elsewhere. Death being Eternal Death; Damnation, Eternal Separation from God, the Source of All Life. Then, God takes all of these infants and unborn babies and takes them to Himself before they have opportunity to sin. In a very real way, so long as you're not constrained by Meat Logic, that's far more merciful than allowing them to live their lives in an age where humanity is so bad that everyone's gonna get Flooded to death, followed by Eternal Damnation.
How do you justify hell then? Eternal torture for a finite crime. That isn't justice. God could have made the world without evil but chose to create evil. God is the creator of evil according to the bible.
False. God created FREEDOM. Creatures, Beings, not Automatons. The original state was one where the Physical Universe was totally 100% Compatible with God, existing in a state of perfection. By Man's actions, we rebelled against God and lost that perfection. This is where Linear Time, a symptom of matter, becomes a benefit. Were we non linear beings, like God and the Angels, we'd be set in that state of rebellion constantly and permanently. Instead, via time, we can be brought to redemption. But that's a tangent. The important thing is that when our Physical Lives end, we can no longer exist in a physical universe. But being created to be Eternal, we do not wink out of existence. Instead, we are left with two possibilities. Either eternal existence with God, or eternal existence WITHOUT God. That is the "Second Death." An eternal existence but without life.
God's damnation is not an infinite punishment of a finite crime, it's an infinite consequence of going forth into our inherent infinity, but being unable to exist in that state of perfection and life that is inherent to God. This is why it's described as Christ saying "Depart from me, I never knew you." It's not "I've seen all the wicked shit you've done, and I'm super mad." It's that we're unrecognizable to our potential Savior, in whose image we were created, and who took OUR image in order to save us, because of our own rebellion, how we've twisted and ruined ourselves, and we can't go with him, and have to go... elsewhere. Outer Darkness.
Lazarus then?
People forget that Lazarus rose from the dead before Jesus did.
Based Lazarus doesn’t get enough credit
Eh, that credit still goes to Jesus. When He tells you "COME OUT," you don't whine about how you're dead and rotting from three days ago, you get the hell up and come out.
I don't agree with these memes, but I get it.
Jesus saves all that ask for salvation! Nothing but the blood of Jesus!
God is a jealous God. It worries me to see the amount of adoration that should only be placed on Jesus. It's not a guarantee that God will save our nation, just our individual souls.
Correct. I also see the parallels.
Christ was compassionate, but he was not polite. Christ was under tremendous scrutiny, including political! And he never bent the knee to anyone but the Father. He came to save ALL the people, and the leaders hated him for it. They killed him.
All glory to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit!
Trump was sent here by God to save the United States of America, in our darkest hour... the time when Socialism bubbled up and took control of our media and our most powerful companies and institutions, threatening our freedoms and way of life.
Change my mind.
Challenge accepted:
Trump was sent here by God to save the United States of America, in our darkest hour... the time when Satanism bubbled up and took control of our media and our most powerful companies and institutions, threatening our freedoms and way of life in the final lead up to the rise of the abomination of desolation.
I get your point, but Leftists do not believe in God, they are mostly Atheist.
Calling them Satanists makes them reply : "Meh. Who cares, you stupid Christians. We worship science, the altered reality of our shared tech centric society, we serve our own pleasures, in deference to your God. We are the chosen people to bring down your nation and rebuild it in our own image."
We need to continue to pound the point that they are for all intents and purposes Godless Socialists, intent on creating a Soviet Union 2.0, here in North America.
There are plenty of people in the west completely aware of what it means if it were to ever come to pass.
The entire planet would be plunged into darkness and misery, where religious people would be hunted down and imprisoned.
A lot of leftists wear satan symbols on their clothing. I don't think you can separate them into distinct camps. But you're right about sticking to the socialist point. A lot of people tune out when satan is mentioned.
Thanks for the reply and your point of view. It is refreshing that here we can have a discussion and work together toward a solution that considers every option/person.
It is what makes us and America great!
Totally agree
That's why we have Pres. Trump.
Yes.
It's a meme.
Sacre d'Orange!
Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Not through works Not through singing praise songs Not because your race Not because your gender
Only because of Him
This isn't make believe people, it's real, better to try Jesus today than risk it tomorrow
Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.
While I have your attention:
Should Trump manage to vanquish his deepstate enemies (he will) and begin a new age of enlightenment where we are back in power, can you guys please, PLEASE leave the music alone this time. I don't want to see a rebirth of TV evangelism and satanic scare shit like there was in the 80s. Yea, I get it. It's scary and violent and all that. But that's ok. Sometimes we just get really, really mad. Hate is ok sometimes. Moderation in all things. Proselytizing included.
Yep. Conservatives often look to the 80s as peak republican era but don't realize it was their downfall. The puritanical scare tactics were as crazy as the left is today and enabled the media to paint the left as the cool kids fighting against the establishment. Growing up in the 80 and 90s I experienced this first hand and know it played a big part in turning so many of my generation to the left.
This is more true than people would like to admit.
However it was democrats like Tipper Gore that lead the charge on censoring movies and video games.
That bitch got the Dungeons & Dragons cartoon cancelled
The old saying about strong men creating good times, etc. is a good illustration of one of our fallibles...that is we always strive for a goal, but tend to overshoot the mark and end up in this endless cycle. It's human nature. Every generation wants to reinvent the wheel and leave their mark on the world. Humans have a true gift at messing up a good thing. My beef isn't specific to Christians.
And my previous screed wasn't directed specifically to axrevolutionai, just in general. I didn't mean to sound like I was going after you.
Trump rises as Biden slithers back into the hole he crawls out of.
Not called the God Emperor for nothing
The God Emperor from 40k is a fuckin beast, but GEOTUS is better because he hasnt turned the entire universe into a giant war of attrition lol.
This would not be a CNN mind slave’s understanding of current events lol.
It was the corruption of the Primarchs by Chaos which lead to the Horus Heresey which in turn led to the kind of conflict you describe, rather than the God Emperor himself. Argument could be made based upon how he slaughtered the lightning warriors during the unification wars on Earth that his aggressive hold back for nothing efforts lead to such things in the long run, but alas we are about to go deep into 40k lore.
Its not nearly so cut and dry, which is why that lore is awesome. Moral ambiguity at its foundation.
40K lore is some of the best there is. But they were already out there slaughtering xenos scum before the heresy. I love the fight against the tyranids in one of the first of the series. Reminded me of the raptors in the field scene in jurassic park 2 lol.
That's great but how does Barron fit in?
I actually refer to him as God's Emperor.
While his parents were away, Baron Trump used 7 paperclips and a TI-85 calculator to replace all computer systems at Norad
clap clap clap
Atheist Pede here with 6 years of Catholic schooling. I appreciate this meme.
Where’s the smiley for ”THIS IS HERESY BUT I LOLD”??
😬😂😬
Pretty close!
Damn! Instant stickie! Mods=Gods 😘
Because there are a lot of "I never knew you" "Christians". You don't truly believe our country or even the west , is 75% Christians do you?
this^^ and this is something every Christian should strive to avoid daily.
Jesus is Lucifer.
Also calling Trump things like Beast have me mildly concerned...
Kek
Jared Kushner is the antichrist
these are exactly my thoughts as well, brother.
"Mary" (Marty?)
Depending on which Gospel you take as canon it's either Mary, 3 women, or an angel.
What about John?
Not a fan of this. There is ONLY one saviour.
Ahh Yes the great Gilgamesh.
SON OF A BITCH! I had the idea for this meme yesterday but you beat me to it already! And got a sticky out of it!
Trump defeats covid. America is saved. Jesus is the Savior. God reigns forever.
Christians are afraid this makes Trump seems like the anti Christ. Trump never claimed to be a god as far as I’m aware.
Jared Kushner is the antichrist.
So they all got the Chinese Sniffles and got better.
Even Jesus thinks this meme is funny.
Next up: Gandalf the white 🇺🇸🙏
HAHAHAHA too funny
Well, 1/2 of me questions whether this is really proper to represent or not , and the other 1/2 of me smiled and really enjoyed the cleverness and the poke in the eye to the left. I guess I'm still going to hell.../S
The cell shading is fantastic, great job.
Not my meme, stolen from Twatter
Hahahahahahahah! Good one! That should anger the libtards for a while since Time magazine called Obama "The One" and "America's Messiah" and all that BS. Hahahahahhahaha
ElderPede here: Sorry pedes... this bothers me... a lot! ...KAG!
BEHOLD!
The Prophecies: https://thedonald.win/p/HYLXWBJ3/reeeeeeeee-mah-lord-/c/
She looks like saying, it hurts I need to poop!
I wonder what people 500 years from now will think of that screaming man?!
Meme magic confirmed
He’s not our Savior. This is getting ridiculous and I’m a HUGE Trump fan.