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BabyPede 0 points ago +4 / -4

While I do agree that MEN need to be MEN, I find it unfortunate that this is in fact the New Testament saying that women need to be the submissive equivalent of dogs, and to be seen and not heard, like we tell our children today.

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Russianhoneypot 1 point ago +2 / -1

Just to clarify, obey and submit are not the same thing. First hint; they’re not spelled the same. Dogs obey their owners , children obey their parents, we obey laws because we have to. You can obey on the outside while inwardly rolling your eyes. Submission comes from the heart, it is voluntary and it wants what is best for the other. God speaks to the wives directly in that verse, and he never gives men authority to enforce submission on their wives.

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Russianhoneypot 1 point ago +1 / -0

We know that Jesus was always popular with women and children. The more Christ like a man becomes the the more his family is drawn to him.
Jesus worked hard with his hands as a carpenter, walked everywhere and slept outside a lot. He must have been strong, tanned and healthy.

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Russianhoneypot 3 points ago +3 / -0

I grew up Amish so all these verses and teachings are old hat. I agree these things are extremely unpopular in todays society. Fortunately I’m not a man in todays world looking for a wife!